Finally – A Good Ron Paul Antiwar TV Ad!

James Bovard, April 24, 2008

The folks at American Liberty Coalition have crafted a powerful antiwar ad promoting Ron Paul for president. This minute long ad conveys Ron Paul’s passion and his concern about the ruinous costs of the current wars and the peril of Bush attacking Iran.

The Liberty Coalition solicited donations to help pay for airing the ad, and this may have contributed to the Paul campaign’s 16% tally in the Pennsylvania primary. Their efforts – and the elbow grease of many other volunteers in Pennsylvania – made a big difference.

The private ad is in sharp contrast to this “Ron Paul – Conservative Choice” radio ad created by the Paul campaign and run on Pennsylvania stations. The ad seems confusing and diffident. It starts out mentioning amnesty for illegal aliens and campaign finance reform’s restrictions on free speech – but doesn’t specify that these are John McCain positions. The ad mentions that Ron Paul has received more contributions from active duty military than all other candidates combined – but fails to mention that this is largely the result of Paul’s staunch opposition to the Iraq debacle.

It is good that Ron Paul got 128,000 votes in Pennsylvania. But how many more votes might the campaign have harvested across the nation if they had used the $35 million Americans donated to them to send a clear antiwar message from start to finish?

I would be curious to know the impressions of Pennsylvanians (and others) on how the campaign there played out.




74 Responses to “Finally – A Good Ron Paul Antiwar TV Ad!”

  1. Well, congratulations to the American Liberty Coalition for finally putting out the most important message that Ron Paul has for the American people, and a long, flatulent Bronx cheer to the Paul campaign staff for never having done so, and instead relying on right wing boilerplate issues and rhetoric that even the majority of conservatives don’t comprehend. The TV ad was quite uplifting, visually inspiring, and went right to the point, and is just the sort of thing that could have inspired party switching. Now the campaign radio spot, while not as distasteful as some of the campaign’s earlier efforts, missed the mark on a couple of accounts. As Mr. Bovard stated, it didn’t make it clear that the positions being described were McCain positions. However, worse than this sin of omission is a glaring sin of commission — the notion that the US needs to “stop policing the world for the UN.” Only Libertarians and others on the far right flank of politics even believe this to be the case, and most others would at best be scratching their heads, or , if they’re like me, dismissing it as pure nut-case fantasy. The US polices the world alright, but it doesn’t do so for the UN, NATO, or any other international lash-up. Their was no UN authorization to attack Iraq in 2003, or Yugoslavia under Clinton. The US uses the UN when it can, reviles and attacks it when it can’t — and the neocons have long been in attack mode against the UN. The UN has no territory of it’s own, no means of either collecting taxes from individuals or selling products, and, most importantly, no military forces not on very temporary, unilaterally cancellable loan from member states. It is simply absurd that anyone takes this kind of rhetoric seriously, and demonstrates just how isolated the RP campaign is from either the mainstream, or in this instance, common sense. I say this as both a contributor to the RP campaign and a party-switching RP primary voter. I’m happy that RP got 16% in Pennsylvania, but it is also obviously too little, too late.

  2. indeed too little too late . and it is still not from the official campaign
    i remember writing on comments section at places that perhaps it may be better not to send al the money to the campaign and create local groupings which can create and show focused spots and other materials which are out right anti-war anti-empire .
    badri

  3. Libertarian Hubris. If only Mr. Bovard was running the campaign Ron Paul would be the nominee?

    As much as I enjoy the books and discussions, they are far from best sellers or even mainstream. It doesn’t matter if they are perfectly and verifiable as being truthful.

    The $35 million for his campaign? This very site has to beg quarterly for a far smaller sum and usually goes past their pledge week. Isn’t the anti-war idea popular? Didn’t every supporter probably give to both?

    What next, Stalinesque 5-year plans for liberty? If you are so wonderfully successful at micromanaging everything else, why don’t you run for office (much less delegate as many of the Paul supporters are bothering to do and it does take effort – probably far more than being an armchair campaign manager)?

    You can theme it as you want. Ask whomever you want. Lets see how much genius you have when you put it to the test yourself.

    Every socialist knows he would run the economy much better than the market.

    And it seems there are too many Libertarians (and not just here – Reason has a large cadre and don’t get me started on the Libertarian party) who know how to run the political battles, media and nearly everything else better than those who are actually engaged.

    Other than targets, how are you that different from the neo-con chickenhawks who never go into battle, but just tell everyone how to do things, and when they fail find dozens of reasons it wasn’t their fault?

    Ron Paul AND his campaign has done orders of magnitude more than you have – but you probably have years to live and might have a chance to do something besides criticize others and pen massive tomes and long blogs about what everyone else should be doing. You can either play the games on your terms and your field and be smugly complacent when others fight and are defeated, or join the battle and make a real difference in the real world.

    And that is the big difference. Ron Paul is humble. He would probably tell you he didn’t know how to run his campaign better. Nor any war. Nor your life. Nor the economy. Nor anything else. He would say (and has said) he isn’t that smart. Which is why he attracts supporters in droves. And monetary support.

    If everyone around here and the other libertarian sites would imitate his humility more than the neo-cons hubris, we might actually have a shot at slaying leviathan. Those who say you have to appear as if you know everything are wrong. Because you can’t. And just like anyone else who tries, the limits to knowledge and ability will be exposed.

  4. A very evocative ad. I found it quite moving.

  5. “It is good that Ron Paul got 128,000 votes in Pennsylvania. But how many more votes might the campaign have harvested across the nation if they had used the $35 million Americans donated to them to send a clear antiwar message from start to finish?”

    Saw this vid when it came out–that is the message, and done well, sorrily too late.

    Ah well, Paul is “humble” and the “invisible hand” governs all.

    A 3D computer simulacrum of Paul as Obama’s VP perhaps–hmmm. IT almost raises its voice.

    Shhh–it is a Lying-in Hospital after all.

  6. Response to tz:

    You bring up some interesting points about libertarian behavior and the nature of the Rom Paul campaign. It hurts to criticize such a brave and principled man. But he has carried the movement as far as he can, and it would be foolish not to analayze and learn from the mistakes of the Paul campaign. He got things off to a great start with his historic performances in the early Republican debates. But his organization failed to amplify his clear, immensely popular antiwar message, descending into traditional libertarian obscuratism, focusing on proven electoral losers (eg nativism) and generally confusing potential supporters. By contrast, the Obama campaign has consistently projected a few clear themes, and its success speaks for itself.

    There is nothing wrong with acknowledging shortcomings if it leads to improvement the next time around.

    (continued)

  7. I disagree with the style of the ad. It makes RP look like a robotic dead man. I voted for and worked the poll for RP on the 22nd but if I saw that ad on TV and hadn’t made up my mind yet I’d seriously consider not voting for him. The ad is “dark” and appears evil. As I said, it makes Ron Paul look like an animated dead man. Forget computer graphics- we want to see a real living human being as Dr. Paul is. Not some freaky science fiction ad.

    Rising Tide or whatever that thing’s called isn’t something I’d ever sanction for an advertisement for RP.

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  9. tz,

    Your comments about “Libertarian Hubris” and the contradiction between libertarian principles and the “know it all” nature of many libertarians are on the money. Sadly, ideological rigidity is a hallmark of most libertarians that I know personally, myself included.

    I’ve been very frustrated by commentary on Antiwar.com about events in Colombia and Venezuela. There is a Manichaean ethos at Antiwar.com that anyone accepting military aid from Washington must be evil. Hence the comparisons of Uribe to Noriega and the depiction of the srike on FARC in Ecuador as a propaganda victory for Chavez. The commentators speak with absolute authority, but they have no insight into the zeitgeist of either country. (I’ve lived in Venezuela for the past 6 years, in Latin America since 1997). A quick check of presidential approval ratings (http://www.andeancurrents.com/2008_03_30_archive.html) might have led to more thoughtful analysis. Hubris indeed.

    That said, nobody is perfect, and I greatly admire the courage of the contributors to Antiwar.com. The writers have the broad strokes right, and the site remains indispensible.

  10. Why does everyone say it’s too late? Ron Paul’s message will continue to grow. With one person in twenty voting for him (or supporting him) I would say his ideas are set in the minds of many of us. Who else has woken up this many people? Why should it be up to Ron Paul and his staff to convert and educate all of the US?

    If we continue the fight we will be in a position to take advantage of the growing concern of our fellow Americans. When everyone has either lost their house,job,SUV, or someone they love to these insane wars, they will be ready to listen. That time is not yet here, but it may soon be. We need to be in a position to change things before it’s too late. Ron Paul’s campaign is a great start now it’s up to us to carry the ball across the finish line.

    The MSN will NEVER get it done and neither will the internet (although without it it would not have even gotten started). It’s now time for good old word of mouth to spread the message. Talk to your friends, family, fellow workers and even strangers. You might not think they are listening but they are. They are just not ready to comprehend. My guess is that it’s going to get worse before it gets better. Our time to strike is near. Help spread the word, freedom, liberty, and yes even capitalism is the answer.

    Peace!

  11. Your appreciation for anti war may be expanded when you consider the real terrorists that invaded this nation back in 1913. Ron Paul is a real terrorist fighter, as was Andrew Jackson in 1835 when he paid off the debt. He was also wise to the bankers objectives. Use the fruits of our personal endeavors to feed their kids for centuties. How much do we no pay in interest to who? Why? Finding the answers makes Ron Paul shine but don’t expect the bankers, media, or Industrial complex to agree with you. Thanks for listening. Ron Moss

  12. The robotic ad is nice and it looks like it required a lot of work and talent to create. Like all advertising, it appeals to a different crowd than the traditional style political ads that the campaign used. Yes. I agree that it would have been better to turn the advertising over to the public. But let someone give you an unexpected $35 million dollars and give you one week to turn it into votes. Not an easy task.

  13. I think Mr. Bovard touched the Ron Paul nerve of a few Paulian conservative libertarians. The comments by “tz” above seem to indicate that people must either run for office or shut the fuck up and go along with whatever is “mainstream”.

    Then we have “Gringito”, an ideologically “rigid” libertarian who thinks a little interventionism is a good thing. Since when did libertarians support some military foreign aid?

    There is talk of fighting battles and spreading the word (which word?) here, but it is a curious thing that folks think they can bring about freedom without resisting encroachments on freedom. Do people really believe they can dethrone the political elite by playing a game where the political elite writes the rules?

    I’ll go “tz” one better: maybe it is time for people to resist encroachments against freedom, or shut the fuck up. Oh, but I guess freedom isn’t important enough to risk offending the neighbors, or being arrested, or giving up the middle-class lifestyle.

    At least there are some people who will stick their necks out and tell the truth about the liars, thieves, murderers, and scumbags that run our government. Apparently, the Ron Paul campaign was too humble and polite to rip new assholes for his opponents. Too bad.

  14. I would not suggest running the ad during Ed Sullivan reruns.

    But I think it would appeal to many people under age 40 – hell, maybe even 50.

    The ad grabs viewers by the collars and shakes them.

  15. Where do you read that I support military aid and intervention? Nowhere. I object to editorialists posing as experts and judging the politics of other peoples through the blinders of their own domestic ideology. I oppose the “War on Drugs” as one of many projects to militarize US society. That neither translates into kneejerk contempt for those who take our handouts nor skewing analysis of their domestic politics to fit one’s ideological priorities. That is a hallmark of the neocons.

  16. Well, I am happy we are having these discussions and that we now have each other to talk to. This wouldn’t be happening without Ron Paul. The Libertarian party wasn’t doing anything. Need a friend on the inside? Who’s closer to congress then a congressman? That’s the furnace we’ve got to bank. Ron Paul’s there and he’s on our side. Keep the pressure up. If he wants delegates, become one. Just don’t look down. Staring back is a vice president who knows he’s safe enough to say, “so?” A Real ID, endless war, a manufactured world food shortage and money gone to pot. Keep it positive and support this old coot. Who knows, maybe he’s got a plan.

  17. Come to think of that does seem to have become a curious Paulist imperative–”Run for office or shut up!”

    Ah well, follow the money.

  18. Great!
    The circus continues and illusion of freedoms and democracy goes on.
    CNN and other regime media will “””ELECT””” who plays the role of presidente, Obliterator in chief or the MadmcCain!
    Enjoy

  19. his ads are such garbage. they are so congressional and third rate. stop trying to get the red state fascist vote and support those who believe in you.

    “libertarian hubris” lol. that’s a new one. sorry, we aren’t going to rally around the war on drugs or the stupid columbian managed trade deal. I hope you find antiwar has other good qualities, senor

  20. It looks like to me Ron Paul is making headway..

    http://www.columbian.com/opinion/news/2008/04/04252008_Whats-this-Ron-Paul-tops-McCain.cfm

    All this talk about him not having a chance etc… is just more rhetoric to me.. If we don’t have hope, whats the sense in all of this? We might as well throw ourselves off of a tall bridge or something…

  21. There’s always Esperanto.

  22. What exactly is the goal of the Ron Paul campaign at this point?

  23. to meet kim kardashian

  24. Gregorios Photistes, it is said, was son of a Parthian Prince.

  25. Mehmet Ali Pasha was Armenian.

  26. corr. Albanian

  27. I cannot see the war as historians see it.

    Those clever fellows study all the facts and they see the war as a large thing, one of the biggest events in the legend of the man, something general, involving multitudes. I see it as a large thing too, only I break it into small units of one man at a time,

    And see it as a large and monstrous thing for each man involved. I see the war as death in one form or another for men dressed as soldiers, and all the men who survived the war, including myself, I see as men who died with their brothers, dressed as soldiers. There is no such thing as a soldier. I see death as a private event, the destruction of the universe in the brain and in the senses of one man, and I cannot see any man

    William Saroyan

  28. Ah, Heller’s Yossarian was Armenian, wasn’t he?

  29. Well, let me put it this way — nobody bets on a horse after the winner has already crossed the finish line. McCain already has all the delegates he needs for a coronation. One reason for a lot more Republicans voting for RP in Pennsylvania is that it no longer matters to them to pick the candidate they think could beat Hillary or Obama. The trick was to get them to vote for RP before McCain got what he needed to win, not after. RP now no longer matters, since his campaign couldn’t prevent the coronation of a War Party Republican. No one expected RP to win, but I had high expectations in forcing a brokered convention. With McCain’s coronation, the Republicans can brush aside the Paul voters.

  30. I don’t think anyone knows, least of all the official Paul campaign.

  31. “dressed as soldiers”

    Though I have seen a number of critical studies of Catch 22, I have seen no one point to Saroyan as the key to the ending, in which, Yossarian, naked in a tree, offers no purchase for a medal to be pinned on him.

  32. I live in Crawford County in NW PA. I seriously doubt that the antiwar ad could have helped Paul among Republicans here. There is a strong libertarian streak in this area, but also strong blue collar welfare-liberalism and red state fascism (more often than not combined in the same voter).

    It is a fantasy to believe that the antiwar ad could have helped him, other than to remind people that he was still in the race. I do not mean to insult anyone but much of the criticism of Paul’s campaign is pure fantasy in the sense that it is without any real and consistent evidence, being based mostly on wishful thinking and selection bias. People seem to have a certain almost mythical narrative about how they wish the campaign should and would have gone and then blame all failure to get votes on the campaign strategy’s lack of conformity to this narrative. Perhaps the narrative iss the true one, but there is simply no coherent and compelling evidence for it. It is just as likely that people didn’t want Ron Paul to be president in precisely the percentage that we saw in the voting and precisely because of his foreign policy and other views. People might be against this war, or simply against the way it was waged, but very few wish to treat the people of other nations with humility and respect. Americans in general are not against aggressive war because they are unable even to distinguish between pre-emption and defense. For a bully another person’s refusal to comply with orders is an act of aggression. A bully wakes up with the belief that he owns, or ought to own, the universe. This describes the American majority’s primitive domestic and foreign policy.

  33. The aide said that guys like me were ”in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who ”believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ”That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. ”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

    [Senior Bush Administration Official according to Ron Susskind, 2004]

  34. This is very interesting, not to mention ironic. I had the honor of meeting Dr. Paul once, and believe he’s an exemplary human being. But that doesn’t mean he’s a good campaigner. At the risk of appearing to be a another “chickenhawk” I have to point out that it was an independent initiative that raised a big chunk of Ron Paul money. Too bad we made the mistake of giving it to the Ron Paul campaign, which didn’t seem to know what to do with it. I’m not deluded enough to think that we’d have _won_, given the olympian odds against us. But we’d have made a far better showing, I think.

    Vaughn Treude
    Glendale, AZ

  35. THE WITNESS: Yes. I went about a week or two before with one of my close brothers, Martin Carey, a poster maker, and we measured the Pentagon, the two of us, to see how many people would fit around it. We only had to do one side because it is just multiplied by five.

    We got arrested. It’s illegal to measure the Pentagon. I didn’t know it up to that point.

    When we were arrested they asked us what we were doing. We said it was to measure the Pentagon and we wanted a permit to raise it 300 feet in the air, and they said “How about 10?” So we said “OK”.

    And they threw us out of the Pentagon and we went back to New York and had a press conference, told them what it was about.

    We also introduced a drug called lace, which, when you squirted it at the policemen made them take their clothes off and make love, a very potent drug.

    MR. WEINGLASS: Did you mean literally that the building was to rise up 300 feet off the ground?

    MR. SCHULTZ: I can’t cross-examine about his meaning literally.

    THE COURT: I sustain the objection.

    MR. SCHULTZ: I would ask Mr. Weinglass please get on with the trial of this case and stop playing around with raising the Pentagon 10 feet or 300 feet off the ground.

    MR. WEINGLASS: Your Honor, I am glad to see Mr. Schultz finally concedes that things like levitating the Pentagon building, putting LSD in the water, 10,000 people walking nude on Lake Michigan, and a $200,000 bribe attempt are all playing around. I am willing to concede that fact, that it was all playing around, it was a play idea of this witness, and if he is willing to concede it, we can all go home.

    THE COURT: I sustain the objection.

    MR. WEINGLASS: Did you intend that the people who surrounded the Pentagon should do anything of a violent nature whatever to cause the building to rise 300 feet in the air and be exercised of evil spirits?

    MR. SCHULTZ: Objection.

    THE COURT: I sustain the objection.

    MR. WEINGLASS: Could you indicate to the Court and jury whether or not the Pentagon was, in fact, exercised of its evil spirits?

    THE WITNESS: Yes, I believe it was. . . .

    The stuff of novels. It is a pity the court reporter could not spell “exorcise”. Hoffman, who had a master’s degree in psychology from Berkeley, and who was considerably more than a master psychologist, certainly knew how to spell, don’t you think?

  36. One wonders what would happen if they had a Republican Convention and nobody came?

  37. And pay for it too?

  38. 35 million–that’s a nice piece of change.

    Investing wisely one might get at least a few million a year out of it, in the present climate. Think how much good it might do, fighting the war in Iraq, Iran, and so forth for the next hundred years,

    I mean, one might even establish a Ron Paul Anti-War Foundation perhaps, so that never again would there ever be a lack of funding for worthy anti-war causes.

  39. You know, in a way it’s too bad that the Republican primaries are all winner take all and not proportional like the Dems primaries. Imagine a bunch of Ron Paul delegates at the convention causing trouble and raising a ruckus.

  40. A stirring image–putting their hands over their wallets during the Pledge of Allegiance.

    Can’t get the image out of my head!

    Perhaps even a “Hey, hey LBJ! How many Federal Reserve banks did you kill today!”

    Cutting edge stuff.

  41. Does anyone know if the Mormons have nuclear weapons?

  42. You make a very valid pont. The winner take all approach is deeply flawed and seriously misrepresents the true level of support a candidate receives.

  43. “Am I the only guy in this country who’s fed up with what’s happening? Where the hell is our outrage? We should be screaming bloody murder. We’ve got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, and we’ve got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can’t even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, “Stay the course” Stay the course? You’ve got to be kidding. This is America not the goddamnaed Titanic. I’ll give you a sound bite.”Throw all the bums out!”…”

    Lee Iacocca [excerpt sent to me from his new book apparently]

  44. “Conservative Republicans deserve a choice.”

    That’s not what the Republican Party that supports Bush and Cheney deserves.

    And if Ron Paul and his Paulists seriously think that that “Party” can be taken over or coopted from the inside, or that Ron Paul’s perfunctory “anti-war” song and dance looks like anything but another co-opting fraud, they may be soon enough quite surprised with what a great mass of people think they deserve, along with the rest of this vicious Right Wing moron elite.

  45. New Orleans was an unusual situation. The enemy, at first sight any way, looked like a natural disaster, not the Bush and Cheney administration. And flood waters did the job of traumatizing the population and restricting physical movement.

    One urges one to reconsider if one seriously thinks there will be a repeat of what looked like wholesale docility in an urban setting.

  46. I still can’t believe that Ron Paul’s campaign tactics were so very, very stupid, and he is so very, very smart. Sad beyond words.

  47. Thank you for telling the truth, Tom Blanton, and I also sure wish Paul had ripped new assholes for his opponents. By the way, the people that run my county government and political party are also liars, thieves, murderers and scumbags.

  48. He (Paul) was obviously too trusting in the advisors he hired for his campaign. The socialists above me are just trying to confuse the issue. When have socialists ever supported Paul? Why are they even commenting? It’s laughable. His ideas, our ideas are simply better.

  49. Idiots that fail to realize Republicanism was conservative before Bush need to grow a set of balls or a brain whichever comes first. So many clowns on this board that aren’t anti-war.

  50. The revolution is coming folks. Be prepared.

  51. I liked the idea behind the ad, but found the voice hard to understand at times. Americans who have no idea of who Ron Paul is would have a hard time understanding what was said in this ad, but on the other side, any ad is better than no ad. I would like to see any remaining campaign money spent all in one state, at this point one good vote total would make people take a look at Ron Paul again. But if there is no spike in vote totals any place, people will continue to believe he has dropped out.

    Sincerely James Glaser

  52. “Republicanism is the ideology of governing a nation as a republic, with an emphasis on liberty, rule of law, popular sovereignty and the civic virtue practiced by citizens. Republicanism always stands in opposition to aristocracy, oligarchy, and dictatorship. More broadly, it refers to a political system that protects liberty, especially by incorporating a rule of law that cannot be arbitrarily ignored by the government. As John Adams put it, “They define a republic to be a government of laws, and not of men.” Much of the literature deals with the issue of what sort of values and behavior by the citizens is necessary if the republic is to survive and flourish; the emphasis has been on widespread citizen participation, civic virtue, and opposition to corruption.”

    Advocates of republicanism argue that it demands a citizenry that puts a premium on civil virtue and opposes corruption. Most authors argue that republicanism is incompatible with office holders using public power for personal gain.[1] Many dictatorships have called themselves “republics,” but generally do not protect the rights or liberty of their citizens.”

    [wikipedia]

    Obviously that has nothing to do with the “Republican Party”. Lincoln, Grant, Nixon, the two Bushes–nah.

    Strange though, all these supposed “Republicanists”, as well as the Paulists, have done so little actually to oppose Bush and Cheney.

    Are there any Republicanists in Congress. Dr. Paul? Dr. Paul? Perhaps you might lead yourself and some “Republicanists” on the Republican side of the aisle in joining Kucinich and Wexler to impeach Cheney now, before it’s too late.

    Kucinisch and Wexler both look like real Republicanists to me.

    Gee, I wonder what “Democratism” is?

  53. Hey, I keep reading that definition–I don’t see anything about “Captitalism”. In fact, just the reverse. Why wouldn’t “Capitalists” be corrupt, and buy up the government, thus the law, if they can get away with it without being held accountable?

  54. The WSJ under Murdoch–now that’s “Capitalism”, hehe:

    http://www.journalism.org/node/10769

  55. Abbie Hoffman–yep, another real Republicanist–a lot like Tom Paine.

    Dr. Paul delivered 4000 babies, did he?

    My word, to go through labor 4,000 times. He must be a regular Uebermensch.

  56. Let me see, outside a few medical emergencies, the women did all the work, and they paid Dr. Paul, right? That’s quite a job–almost as good as a lawyer and better than a dentist, by Jiminy!

    What did humanity do before there were obstetricians? Guess the human race is extinct.

    Or was Dr. Paul one of those Caesarean Section obstetricians–you know the type. Doing an expensive and unnecessary operation in most cases to fit his crowded schedule.

    And episiotomies–how many episiotomies has Dr. Paul done?

    Oh, and let me guess–he opposes National Illness and Injury Care too, right?

    Ecce homo! What a man!

  57. How about nationalizing oil companies–what’s Dr. Paul’s position on that?

    Let me guess.

    He’s from Texas right?

    Why don’t they build the Border Fence right around the whole goshed darn state?

  58. Dr. Paul is a “Libertarian” right? Guess he didn’t get STATE-certified as a physician, then right?

    Everyone knows he’s a man of such PRINCIPAL! Or is it principle?

  59. Dr. Paul a member of the medical and pharmaceutical lobby? Perish the thought! It can’t be!

  60. Well, one thing he has straight about his political obstetrics–you do all the work, he collects all the money.

  61. And sits on it.

  62. Obstetrics–a largely “male” Medical Specialty supervising, and often interfering deleteriously with, a wholly natural process.

  63. Oil is a strategic commodity–isn’t one of the warmongers’ refrains. Only other countries’ oil, is it?

    Isn’t is a policy of the Bush and Cheney administration supposedly to let all Iraqi’s share in Iraq’s oil wealth? Which, of course, according to them, Saddam Hussein did not do (actually he did).

    Good argument for nationalization of US oil, don’t you think?

    What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

  64. The idea of all you little tinhorn “capitalist” wannabes and Randian revolutionaries fighting a civil war to defend the “private property” rights of Big Oil is enough to warm the cockles of any cynic’s heart!

  65. a “Capitalist” must be accorded unrestricted liberty to buy the Republic, and all the people and property in it!

    Liberty! Liberty!

  66. Corporate Capitalist Enterprise X is so important “strategically” it requires Federal Tax money to bail it out of its incompetence.

    How is that any thing but “Corporative Welfare”?

  67. Lyndon Johnson, the two Bushes. Do you suppose Mexico would be interested in buying the hellhole back?

  68. Privatize the Post Office, but bail out Chrysler or Bear Stearns with Federal tax money.

    Is there a pattern here?

  69. Jacksonville, Fla.: Dr. Paul, what is your caesarean rate as a practicing OB-GYN and how do you feel about the nation’s current near-30 percent C-section rate? Do you feel our need for intervention in the world has reached too far into our lives?

    Rep. Ron Paul: The C-section rate throughout the time I practiced medicine was either too high or too low. When I first was taught, it was 3 percent, which meant a lot of the babies born had damage done. Now there are way too many ceasareans. It’s a complicated issue the main reason there are so many is because of attorneys and how medicine has evolved. The doctors can be sued or blamed for the most minor problem. The doctor’s in a position where he’s trying to out-guess the attorneys. It’s a horrible feeling, and the doctor’s under pressure to do more C-sections than he should. I would guess I had about a 15 percent rate, which is about where it should be. At the same time, right now we have more than their should be, because of convenience and attorneys. But if it went down to 3 percent again I think there would be other problems.

    Hmmm.

  70. Rep. Broun has introduced H.R. 5821, also known as the Military Honor and Decency Act, which would close what he calls a loophole that allows the continued distribution of pornography to soldiers, to their moral detriment, with the help of taxpayer funds.

    “As a Marine, I am deeply concerned for the welfare of our troops and their mission,” Broun said on April 17. “Allowing the sale of pornography on military bases has harmed military men and women by: escalating the number of violent, sexual crimes; feeding a base addiction; eroding the family as the primary building block of society; and denigrating the moral standing of our troops both here and abroad. Our troops should not see their honor sullied so that the moguls behind magazines like Playboy and Penthouse can profit. The ‘Military Honor and Decency Act’ will right a bureaucratic–and moral–wrong.”

    Ha HA HA HA!

    Onward, Judaio-Christian Patriots!

    Making Iraq a nation of healthy, law-abiding citizens who don’t smoke cigarettes and who wear seatbelts.

  71. And why WASN”T Eliot Ness and the WCTU taken out and shot?

  72. Broun’s Four-Way Test

    I am committed to protecting the constitutional rights and pocketbooks of every American. I will apply the following four-way test to every piece of legislation that comes before the House for a vote:

    1) Is it Moral / Right? 3) Is it Necessary?
    2) Is it Constitutional? 4) Is it Affordable?

    [Rep. Paul Broun's House Page]

    Another Dr. Slop, eyah.

  73. I believe in compulsory cannibalism. If people were forced to eat what they killed, there would be no more wars.

    Abbie Hoffman

  74. The Mainstream Media has already forgotten he existed! As far as they are concerned he left the race – this being another instance when the Media decides for the people. Now it is all John McCain and Paul who? There are no chances for Paul other than a 3rd Party run. Even Raimondo is talking about Bzerzhinsky’s puppet Obama as a great hope.