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Most of you have seen the video of Amy Goodman’s outrageous arrest at the Republican convention protests.
You may be surprised to learn that charges against her and two of her producers are still pending. Charges against producers Sharif Abdel Kouddous and Nicole Salazar include felony riot charges.
The public information officer of the St. Paul police department can be contacted at: 651-266-5735.
Here is the video of Goodman’s arrest and the subsequent news conference by the police.
Welcome to reality Amy! XD
I wouldn’t presume to welcome Amy Goodman to reality.
Do you think you know what’s going on better in this country than she?
Do you think that because she’s a liberal, she must have her head in the clouds?
Her outrage at being arrested in a police state tickled my funny-bone! Apparently she doesn’t know that this is a police state - in a police state people are arbitrarily arrested and detained all the time - I do (I’ve been tracking and documenting the appearance of new surveillance cameras in my community for many years now.), so, evidently, I do know better than she about what’s going on in this country! XD
I am 100% sure Amy Goodman knows more than you. In addition she demonstrates her heart and soul each day at democracynow.org.
VOTE WITH GUNS
CAST YOUR BULLET
Be careful, folks! This guy could be an FBI or ATF agent provocateur! Most of the “terrorists” arrested in the US over the last few years were led into whatever by FBI under-cover agents.
Lester Ness
Kunming
China
See? This is how they divide us. They invoke fear and suspicion among like-minded individuals.
Just do your own thing. Lester, and I’ll do mine, m’kay?
I forgot to ask you Amy…would you and your liberal chums organize a nation-wide general strike please? I’m sick of this pansy crap…time to start playing hardball!
No one in the World has done more to fight against US imperialism in an effective manner than Amy Goodman. Your comments merely reflect personal ignorance of Amy and the difficult task of building an effective alternative media.
Awesome! We got our very own police state!
What I find absolutely hilarious about the RNC is that Lieberman was a main speaker!!! Haha, to think this guy almost became the VP with Gore! I wonder how many unnecessary wars he would have added to the list…sorta scary when you think about it.
What else would you expect from a country that has accepted preemptive war and a “If you are not with us, you are against us” mentality? The upcoming election will be a second chance to reject fascism (note, we flubbed it in 2004). The ticket of McCain-Palin is probably the perfect example of know-nothing, Israel-First, militaristic, toadying to wealth, “future be damned”, patridiotic, lying, hypocrisy ever to come down the pike. If America casts the plurality of its elegible votes on this ticket, we deserve consignment to the dustbin of history.
I have a nauseating feeling that McCain will win. I can feel the massive excitement of the idiots rising yet again. I should know - my sister is one of them. The buzz I’m hearing is that they are totally ecstatic about Palin. She’s their trailer-trash Evita.
I have a nauseating feeling that McCain or Obama will win. :(
I’m no Obama fan, either. But I agree with Paul Craig Roberts that it is nevertheless vital that the GOP lose this election. Read his stuff; he explains concept this very well.
And he’s not a Democrat, nor is he a liberal, so you don’t have to decide in advance that he’s wrong.
I’m glad you mentioned Dr. Roberts Eric…he’s had a very strong influence on my thinking over the past several years. I wish he were featured more on this site, but whatever…he’s one of the good guys.
Unfortunately my conscience will not allow me to choose the lesser of two evils in this case; I felt like I was tricked into it the last time with that knucklehead Kerry…never again!
Both parties can go f#&k themselves for all I care…I’m going with Nader from now on!
I totally respect your position. My frustration is just off the charts these days.
I agree with Eric that the Republicans must be punished for what they have done to this country and the world. Unfortunately the Republicans cannot be cast out without the Democrats assuming power. It’s true that many cowardly Democrats have been accomplices to Bush’s crimes yet the Republican party as a group has mindlessly goose-stepped behind Bush. The attitude of rank and file Republicans is that of my party right or wrong and the nation and world be damned. This is truly scary and must be stopped.
The Republicans and not the Democrats are the immediate threat to our liberty and prosperity which must be dealt with. After a major loss this November the Republican party might undergo a grassroots revolt which would expel the neocons and the more egregious statists. They can then stand in principled opposition to Obama’s brand of socialism. It’s not much, but it’s the best that we can hope for.
Well, if the Reptiles could steal two elections for the nitwit plutocrat Bush, they can probably do the same for McCain(iac) and Failin.
Lester Ness
Kunming
China
In the last election almost the majority of those who opposed the Bush regime in America, stayed home during the elections. Somebody must start a get out the vote campaign right now. Otherwise, it is an absolute certainty that McCain will be the next president of America. With the American media firmly in the neoconservative control, it will take a lot of effort on the part of people outside of the mainstream media to get any idea across. It is getting late, already. Start the get out the vote campaign, right now.
Nothing wrong with being polically active. But picking stooge one over stooge two won’t change a thing. Find a third party and get involved at least that way your no longer part of the greater evil. Neither the Republicans or Democrats have represented the people in a long time. Sadly there isn’t a dimes worth of difference between them.
Peace!
“Sadly there isn’t a dimes worth of difference between them.”
So it is not. But as long as this third party, and whatever it is, has not managed to secure a mayor’s office or a governor’s office or any public office whatsoever, it is a bit rash to aim for the big prize now. And even if a third party candidate is chosen to be the president of America, with a congress that is divided between Democrats and Republicans what can he do? Even Obama feels that he needs a helping hand with a Clinton and Pelosi Congress; hence his choice of Biden. The only thing that that option would server is deprive the lesser of the two evils from many votes. Even Ron Paul does not dare to utter a word about a third party. He knows he will be the icing, a little feature, on this democracy cake if he does so. Sadly, it is long passed time that America had the chance of having a third party. Americans are lucky if they can get two.
“Americans are lucky if they can get two”. I don’t feel all that lucky about having to choose between two non choices. Feeling lucky for such a lame system is part of the problem. It’s better not to vote and reject the whole system than buy into more lies. Every four years you get to choose between two parties that behave the same. We voted in the Dems to do something about the Republicans have they done anything? I understand your choice and respect it. However I feel that voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil it makes a statement that you accept evil. I won’t make that statement, If I can’t vote for someone who is not evil I will not vote at all. As long as people continue to vote for evil they lend legitamcy to the process. voting for a third party is not done (at this point) out of the chance to win but a vote against a broken system. The whole reason we can’t get a third party elected is due to the fact that so many people believe the media’s insistance that they can not win. Good luck and I do understand.
Peace!
Brad Smith,
I am from Iran, and will naturally not be voting in the next American presidential elections. For the moment, the world at large, although more affected by the choice of the American president than the American people are, is not afforded a vote at the American ballot box. :)
The last time we had a presidential election here, on the night before the election day, George Bush came on the Satellite TV and urged all the Iranians to stay away from the elections and not vote. He failed completely in his appeal, with even some people who had decided not to vote, choosing instead to actually go out and vote. I urged a lot of people, family and friends to vote then, and I am urging you to vote now. It is true, that it will not make a big difference but it is in YOUR interest to vote. Don’t let THEM have their cake and eat it too on the cheap. And don’t let them get to you like that.
Sorry for assuming you were from the US my bad. However, you are still missing the point. Voting in a fraudulant race only sends the message that you believe in the system. When you have a system that is completely broken participating in it only sends the message that you still believe. I don’t believe in the system we have. If you believe in yours great. but ours is broken completely. By voting for the lesser of two evils I would be letting them have their cake completely free with my good wishes. Not voting or voting for a third party is the only way I can voice my opposition during this election. voting for either of these two stooges only sends the message that I am fine with my non choice.
Peace!
Ali, you say that the news is controlled my neoconservatives. you are very ingorent to this. I will name the National Conservative News for you. Fox News. Here are the liberal news. MSNBC, CBS, NBC, CSPAN, ABC, CNN, BET, MTV, CNBC, CSPAN2, and even more papers like this. You have clearly listend to much to your state controlled news within Iran. I want your contry to be free so they may make there own elections and to have free trade with the world. But with you leader being who he is you never will. Take up arms in your country and take control of your nation. It can be done. We did in 1776. You can to. As-Salamu-Alaykum, I am sorry I do not know this in Farsi. God Bless you and Your Nation
You wish us freedom? Well, we wish you freedom too. But let me get this right. In 1776 America declared its dependence and proceeded to defeat Great Britain which had colonized the states. Now, what you are suggesting is that we should take up arms, and overthrow our constitution and government that our revolution of 1357 (1979) brought to power and gave us our freedom from American rule through its puppets, and put ourselves under the rule of America and its puppets, again. That is just great. But I think what you are suggesting to us just isn’t freedom. Perhaps that is why America is financing and arming the terrorist groups that have blown up cultural centers and marketplaces and stopped buses on the roads and murdered everyone on board. And that is also why America supported Saddam while he was trying to tear off a part of our country. And that is perhaps why America was perfectly content when Saddam Hussein was using his weapons of mass destruction, that is his chemical weapons generously donated by Europeans and paid for by Americans, on our people. Alas, we wish you freedom too, but that does not mean that we are not capable of wishing you whatever you wish us.
By the way, it is true that Fox News is way in front, but if you consider the rest of those propaganda units as liberals, then that says a lot about the state of liberty in America.
That should be “America declared its independence and …”
Pretty soon, the mark of anyone who’s politically active will be a criminal conviction on some sort of bogus charge (like “conspiracy to riot”). A criminal government makes offenders out of honest people.
Well said. Since most Americans watch American Idol instead of being politicaly active they don’t (yet) appreciate the extent to which the USA has become a police state. When they finally wake up it will be too late.
About 1/2 of Americans realized long ago that it doesn’t matter if you vote for Godzilla or Megalon: you get a monster in either case.
Lester Ness
Kunming
China
When the police violated the rights of blacks, I did nothing because those guys in baggy clothes had probably done something wrong at one time anyway. Then the police abused the Latinos. I still did nothing because the gang banging job stealers had it coming to them. Next it was the turn of the hillbillies. I couldn’t work up much sympathy for tattooed drunks in pickup trucks whose children run around dirty and barefooted. I cheered when the Muslims were swept up for some friendly renditioning. How can one feel safe around swarthy, bearded men with unpronounceable names?
Hold on, there’s a loud banging at my front door. Oh no! It’s just been kicked in and armed men are swarming through my house shooting up my family!! Someone, anyone please help me!
Well, lots of activists in the past have found that prison is as good as a university for making useful connections.
Lester Ness
Kunming
China
Your right Greg and it’s all for the “War on Terra”. It reminds me a lot of one of our longest wars the “War on Drugs” Same thing in my opinion. Outlaw a non-crime and punish people for it, thus creating “criminals”. It doesn’t matter a bit to them what the results of their wars are just how much they can line their pockets.
Peace!
Finally,the US is learning something from the middle east!
Soon any gathering above one person would be crime!
Haaa!
Watching Amy Goddman get arrested was a pleasure.
The charges however were bogus. The charge should have
been fraud and misuse of a taxpayer entitlement (NPR.)
Maybe now she’ll take a sincere interest in true civil
liberty and the actual people that are standing up for it?
(here’s a hint Amy: down the street from where you were
arrested Ron Paul was holding a convention packed with
thousands of people who actually want to be free!)
Democracy Now is broadcast by Pacifica, not NPR.
real nice, who’s the one showing Ron some respect now?
So how come the Libertarians aren’t demonstrating? Or supporting those arrested?
Lester Ness
Kunming
China
Yeah, and Paul has been pretty lukewarm and swivel-hipped on the issue of pushing impeachment.
But he was outright enthusiastic about impeaching Clinton.
At that time he said an impeachable offense was anything a majority of the House said it was.
And he was right.
But my, oh my, how he has changed his tune when it is the Republicans that are fielding the criminals.
I think that not teaming up with Kucinich and pressing for impeachment of Bush and Cheney has been Paul’s biggest shortcoming, by far. I can’t imagine what reason Paul is offering that Clinton’s lie, which harmed no one other than the shrew, is more deserving of impeachment than Bush’s many lies about the reasons for war?
This puzzling inaction has cost Paul the respect and support of many on the left who are otherwise sympathetic to his antiwar message.
Paul was coopted, and in several different ways, whether consciously or not.
About the only things he might do now to save any remnants of a reputation as a Constitutionalist and a Libertarian are:
(1) come out strongly and loudly for impeachment, even at this late date;
(2) advise all his supporters and anyone who agrees with what he has been mouthing about the Constitution and his opposition to Bush’s and Cheney’s wars to vote, following Paul Craig Robert’s reasoning, for Obama, strictly as a negative vote aimed at destroying the Republican Party.
Short of that, one has to consider him as much of a fraud and empty suit and spoiler as Nader.
Then why aren’t they protesting? Could they be a bunch of wankers?
Lester Ness
Kunming
China
And they are “fighting for your fredom over there”!
(here’s a hint Amy: down the street from where you were
arrested Ron Paul was holding a convention packed with
thousands of people who actually want to be free!)
Ron Paul was a regular guest on Democracy Now during the leadup to the invasion of Iraq.
Please. Engage brain before typing.
Those cops just look like something out of a sci-fi horror film.
That’s the look they were going for, I think. Terrorize and intimidate…that’s how they hold sway over the american sheeple.
Now, how effective do you think these clowns would be if they tried that armor-plated-boogieman bull scat in Iraq or Afghanistan?! Not very!
Welcome to reality Amy! XD
Amy Goodman’s introduction to reality came in 1991.
In 1991, covering the independence movement in East Timor, Goodman and fellow journalist Allan Nairn were badly beaten by Indonesian soldiers after they witnessed a mass killing of Timorese demonstrators in what became known as the Dili Massacre. She has speculated that the only thing that spared her the fate of the Australian-based journalists who were killed in East Timor in 1975 was an American passport; the United States was providing military support to the Indonesian army at the time. The U.S. did not cut off military aid to Indonesia until 1993.
At least 250 East Timorese were killed in the massacre. John Pilger cites a total of 400 killed and missing as a result of the protest killings and an alleged second massacre the next day.
If you people want to be free, you have to support the free speech rights of people that you may disagree with. If you don’t, then you aren’t safe either.
Right on Chris!
agree !
as much annoyed i have been lately with her beginning to shill for liberal democrats ( funny thing [or perhaps not] she was not that keen to be with protesters in denver ) .
most likely her political softening has come with becoming better known and bigger as well as now being carried on some of NPR stations [ to the person above it is now HER OWN production not of pacifica as it was once ].
still the goons and thugs and state should be opposed .
free her and MANY OTHERS who were arressted both in denver and twin cities !
Kill a chicken to frighten a monkey.
Lester Ness
Kunming
China
haha Lester Ness…That about sums it up. America is screwed. Guns, Gold, and Rural property folks. That’s where the future of America is at.
I kind of like silver too.
Learn to raise your own food. Wealth is what you can eat and wear.
Lester Ness
Kunming
China
That’s what the rural property is for. I grew up farming, hunting and traping. I have apples, pears, grapes, cherries, berries of all kinds, a very large garden and my wife spins wool from one of my best friends’ sheep. We also get beef and pork from our friends and family. I butcher and smoke as well. Fishing is also a great resourse. Knowing where and when to catch is the hardest part or funnest part depending. I also have a hand pump on my property. On top of this I still stock up on all the essentials including medical supplies. I realize that this is not possible for many people. But simply ignoring the fact that war can come to our country is simple ignorance, denial, whatever you want to call it. Our governement’s call for a paltry week of supplies isn’t going to help much in the long run. Silver and Gold are a backup and one that may be the best alternative for city folk and country people alike. At least it will still retain some value, if only as a means for barter.
My next project is solar and wind, right now I rely on wood, living in the woods that makes sense. However, it would be great to go completely off grid.
Peace!
Red State Fascism.
Trailer Trash Evita; Caribou Barbie, what have you.
Palin is a very ambitious, cunning and willing participant in manipulating America to outright corporate fascism and confrontation with Russia, to start, and Iran and China, as well. Down this road lies our Republic’s doom, if its not already fore-doomed.
This Palin speech was a clarion call to the “Volk”, to the home-town values of Empire and duty to the state, to getting what’s “ours”, F the rest of the world. Following Guiliani’s homage to Goerbels (or was it Mussolini?), her appeal to the inner American Exceptionalist in all of us was masterfully performed, by this former professional sportscaster. Mark this day, this woman has marched to the stage as another villianous, tragic character in American history. Beware.
The hell with neocon RoboChick Sarah. Ron Paul has a real hottie, Aimee Allen, who has made an immortal contribution to pop culture, the passionate Ron Paul Revolution song/video. Check it out. It contains more inspirational ideas than born again Palin can ever muster.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QiKh9Ko3mw4&feature=related
Also check out Jesse Ventura’s speech at Paul’s Rally for Freedom. Looks like he has announced his candidacy for 2012. This guy has more charisma, balls and brains than anyone that the two parties can ever find.
When I wonder is the US going to strike “Land of the free” from its national anthem.
Before ya’ll get all snarky-smug about Ms. Goodman, you might try practicing that old-time American value of considering someone innocent until proven guilty, and that goes for your own private “justice” as well. As in, waiting to hear her side of the story before getting on your high horse and making thoughtless pronouncements.
According to Ms. Goodman, she was interviewing people on the RNC floor when she got a call that her two assigned photographers had been arrested. She immediately left the floor to go to the scene of the police riots to try and get the two released. Upon her arrival she asked to speak to the police commander in charge and with that she was seized and handcuffed. The charges pending include something called “obstruction of administration”, whatever that means. Was she naive? Hardly. That is what a real journalist risks in any war zone or with any repressive government. Sad that that now includes my own country. I don’t much care for NPR but I can appreciate and respect this woman’s courage to try and free her crew in the midst of an ugly situation with REALLY ugly people in charge.
Have they dropped the charges against Joe Calanchini yet? He wasn’t even trying to do anything but check into a hotel room when the SS arrested him in Denver.
Do not use the Secret Service initial like they are members of the Nazi’s the Secret Service were around nearly 70 years before the Nazi’s Grow up and shut up.
War Veteran and Proud:
Here’s a story I heard from a friend about the Secret Service that is more Three Stooges than Nazi SS. Many years ago my friend was visited at home by city detectives investigating a murder suicide next door. Shortly afterward my friend received a visit from the Secret Service. The reason? Suspicion of counterfeiting. What was the evidence? The city detectives saw pinned to my friend’s wall, a large gray copy with fold out panels of a $50 bill advertising the services of a local company! Anyone with an IQ above room temperature would have seen this for what it was - an advertising flyer. But not the city detectives.
Not to be outdumbed by mere detectives, the Secret Service Agents didn’t just shake their heads, smile, apologize and leave. They requested to inspect his computer. Amused by the stupidity of public servants, my friend agreed. And what caught these geniuses’ attention? A folder titled, MSMoney. “Aha, caught a counterfeiter,” thought the blockheads. Unfortunately visions of bonuses and promotions evaporated when my friend opened the Microsoft Money file used by millions to manage their finances.
I do not believe this story one bit. Maybe the detectived and the secret service showing up maybe. But as for the msmoney part. I claim all out bull s**t. The secret service are not that stupid. I dont say they are the smartest all the time but nobody is that stupid.
War Veteran and Proud:
I saw the “$50″ bill afterward. So I know that it existed. I see no reason why my friend would invent such as story considering that, at that time, he was a recent immigrant with broken English who probably didn’t even know what the Secret Service is. If he did it would be as the President’s bodyguard only. How many Americans much less immigrants know that the Secret Service investigates counterfeiting?
As for me inventing the story in order to make the Secret Service look bad, my imagination isn’t that vivid. Such an invention can only come from the pen of Kafka or the Monty Python crew. Besides, there are sufficient real examples of police knavery and stupidity to keep us entertained, such as arresting Amy Goodman on camera for asking a policeman a question.
“Grow up and shut up”. Hey War Vet, were do you get off speaking to a civilian like that. Your representing the military, you should act like it. You should be refering to everyone on this site as Sir or Mam and acting respectfully. You obsiously need to go back for some retraining. Or don’t they teach that anymore? When I was in you would have gotten an article 15 for treating a civilian that way. Please remember all civilians are superior to you. Now get down and do some pushups. By the way, sense your so proud why don’t you post your real name? And while your at it include your unit, rank, and contact information for your superior officers. that way we can contact them at let them know how you adress civilians. Officer quality my @ss. The more I read from you the more you sound like some wannabe or a punk fresh out of basics.
We have the freedom of speech to civilians. Not to military. We have the right to post our opinions. And do you see I do not use name rank unit or anything along that line. If I did then I could get in some serious trouble for using my uniform in a partisan action. Which is against UCMJ. I am civilian when out of uniform. So i can say what I want as long as I do not represent a group. You must have been in a few centuries ago. I have been in for 8 years. And going and proud to serve. In person I would speak to all as sir or maam. Online I am not held to that. Have a good day.
Your dead wrong. You are always a representative of your unit in or out of uniform. So either your completely full of it or just stupid. You signed in with a name of WAR VETERAN and declared yourself a current member of the military, therefore you are representing the military. Furthermore, whenever a member of the military commits some dumb@ass thing in some other country it directly reflects badly on not only the military buy also your country. Go ask one of your superiors and see what they would say about your lame brain idea. Better yet get yourself a copy of the UCMJ that you try and use for justification to hide your identity. As for having rights you threw that out as soon as your signed your papers. When you signed up you agree to abide by the UCMJ not the constitution. You say “I am civilian when out of uniform”. You have made some very ignorant statement but that one takes the cake. YOU ARE NOT A CIVILIAN UNTIL YOUR TIME IS UP! I am a civilian because I did my time and got out. As long as your being paid by the taxpayers (THAT MEANS ME) you are my servant and should remember that. I don’t know what they are teaching now in basics but if your an example God help us all. Wow does it amaze me how stupid you are.
Suggestion, ignore the troll.
If you want to discredit an opponent then ignoring them is far better than arresting them on trumped up charges in public. Abuse of police power draws attention to people and what they are saying.
But then, intelligence has never been a feature of dictatorships.
The clearest sign of a group of people knowingly clinging to lies and misinformation is when that group of people will not allow open debate. Whether it be the environment, history or political policy, if we can’t ask questions and get reasonable answers…
Those of you rubbishing this election or thinking there is no difference between Obama and McCain are making a serious - possibly fatal - error.
Obama is certainly no angel - but a McCain presidency brings with it the very real chance of a world war. This is not a joke.
No it’s not a joke, it’s deadly serious. I would suggest you prepare. Stock up on all the stuff your going to need. It still amazes me how many people are so easily fooled. Wake up we don’t control our government it controls us if we let it. voting for either of these two stooges is just another part of their control over us. If you think Obama can save you that’s your opinion and of course vote your conscious. I have prepared for the worst. Goldhorder is right. Guns, Gold, and rural proplerty that’s what a person should be worried about. Be self relient, learn to hunt, grow your own food, stock up etc. If the powers that be (I’m not talking about Obama or McCain) decide it’s time for war their isn’t much we can do at this point. Blindly trusting that somehow Obama can change things in nieve and dangerous. I have yet to hear one reason why I should put any faith in our current controllers.
Waking up the sheep before it’s too late is possible. But falling for yet another non-choice is not the answer, it’s just going back to sleep with a different dream. You will only wake up to the same old mess. When you buy into the belief that somehow the Dems will save you from the evil Reps you buy into the biggest lie of all. There is a better chance that the Pentagon will stop the comming war than either of our two newest puppets.
Please people wake up. If you are awake don’t be lulled back to bed by more lies.
Quote: Huey Long
Corrupted by wealth and power, your government is like a restaurant with only one dish. They’ve got a set of Republican waiters on one side and a set of Democratic waiters on the other side. But no matter which set of waiters brings you the dish, the legislative grub is all prepared in the same Wall Street kitchen.
Peace!
You say Mccain would cause a world war. Guess what it already here and it was started by Jihadist Muslims. And Mccain say he will only use military actions as a last resort. Obama says he will flat out attack an ally, Pakistan as soon as he is elected. This is dangerous far worse then Mccain. Mccain understand war. Obama does not. Mccain had been there Obama has not.
“Mccain understand war”
McCain crashed so many planes his mates started calling him “Ace”.
The wryest tale is how he crashed trying to get to an Navy game, wasn’t it?
Who knows hat happened on the Forrestal–at the very least the fellow is an albatross.
The Vietnamese (and Chinese>) have films of him collaborating. I don’t hold that against anyone, given the pressures that can be put on a POW, but do you really want him as president?
If McCain had any patriotism at all, given his career and his status an an ex-POW, he would take himself out of the running.
When Russian solders captured by the Nazis were returned to the Soviet Union, Stalin sent them to prison camps for fifteen years or more, on the grounds that they could not be trusted, either because collaborators or sleepers and plants.
That was brutal and unnecessary, but Stalin’s reasoning was correct.
There should be a constitutional amendment disqualifying any ex-POW from being President or Vice President. Any other office but not those two.
It is too much of a security risk, and carries with it, as with McCain, the possibility of blackmail as well.
I firmly believe most ex-POWs, more patriotic than McCAin, would support such an amendment, as would most veterans and military.
You are very ignorant to suggest a ban on pow’s from being able to run for preseident or vice. I can almost guarantee that no veteran and no ex-pow would support this and if you think they would then you are very misplaced in your ideas.
Thanks for clearing that up for me, War Veteran and Proud.
No doubt your “almost guarantee” is worth its weight in gold, right?
Almost.
Tell me, War Veteran and Proud, what do suggest as a solution to the collapse of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? Any quick and easy military solutions to that, and the collapse of the USD? Someone the Air Force can bomb perhaps or the USN can dispatch with cruise missiles?
Sending the USMC to Vera Cruz?
A grateful, guarded country is all ears.
Apparently, War Veteran and Proud, you believe that all ex-POW’s and veterans are as unpatriotic, unself-sacrificing, unthinking and egomaniacal as yourself and McCain?
“Asian institutions and investors hold some $800 billion in securities issued by Fannie and Freddie, the bulk of that in China and Japan. China held $376 billion and Japan $228 billion as of June 2007, the most recent country-specific Treasury figures.
In Europe, roughly $39 billion in Fannie and Freddie debt is held in Luxembourg and $33 billion more in Belgium, countries that are home to large investment management firms. Investors in Britain hold $28 billion, and Russian buyers hold $75 billion. Sovereign wealth funds in the Middle East are also believed to be big investors in Fannie and Freddie debt….”
NYT July 21, 2008.
By the way, War Veteran and Proud, did you happen to note that Putin said the other day there there WILL be a response to continuing US provocation in Georgia, including to the US and NATO ships now blundering around the Black Sea?
Gee, one wonders what it will be?
Got a military solution to that as well, War Veteran and Proud?
By the way, what country’s military service are you a veteran of again?