I’ve been thinking a lot about this Obama – Nobel Peace Prize business today, actually I’ve been trying to ignore it but I’ve run into several people today who think it’s a great idea and going to spur Obama to do something good… or at the very least spur him to not do something really, really bad.
But that’s not the way any of the other Nobel prizes work. Willard Boyle (one of this year’s Physics laureates) got it because 40 years ago he invented the CCD, which is an enormously valuable piece of technology. Herta Müller got the literature prize because she wrote some poetry people really liked.
Suppose the selection committee gave the Nobel Prize in Physics to some high school student in the hopes she’d be inspired to do something great. Suppose they gave the Prize in Medicine to an entry level employee at some drug company in the hopes he’d eventually discover something really useful. Wouldn’t we think they were putting the cart before the horse?
Oh come on now. Aren't you being just overly cynical?
I mean, just look what the Messiah has done in fulfilling all his promises about Hope and Change since taking power.
The best predictor of someone's future action is their past behavior.
And on this count, Obama's peace credentials have been impeccable.
I know this because the HuffingtonPost and MSNBC said so.
Barack Obama's promises are as good as Lehman Brothers stock.
(BTW, criticism of Obama is also racist, per Jimmy Carter. So tone it down a bit.)
Obama and the Nobel Prize: When War becomes Peace, When the Lie becomes the Truth
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va…
In fairness to Carter, he never claimed or suggested that any criticism of Obama was racist. He was referring to the irrational hatred and fear of Obama among regular citizens (stoked by the likes of Glenn Beckkk and Rush Limbaugh) that is not based on anything real. There is no doubt in my mind that some of that is based on racism, as made clear by racist placards and "humor" directed at Obama. Yet I criticize Obama frequently, but based on what he actually does or his neglect of things that he should be doing. I don't claim he has a deep-seated hatred of white people or that a fight between black and white kids on a school bus is a product of "Obama's America."
Criticism of Obama or any President is your right and duty. As an African American I am counting on good white persons, liberal or conservative, to save me from Obama's "compassionate conservatism." Obama has morphed into GWB's wet dream. ( I voted 3rd Party btw, so no sour grapes here).
Yes, I admit, the racial allegiance sans intellectual inquiry is disturbing, especially so when Obama does everything in his power to eschew race. I don't expect to see a townhall in Detroit or Nawlins 9th Ward anytime soon, and you can be sure he won't address sentencing inequities involving crack vs. powder cocaine, despite how just and right that would be.
This guy is a propagandist's wet dream, aided and abetted by the Press and now the Nobel Committee. Unbelievable.
Racial allegiance along with measurable intellectual activity would look like this: both parents white, the guy's white; both parents A-A, the guy's an Afro-Am. One parent white, one black, the guy's NOT AN AFRO AMERICAN. You better start counting on good mulatoes, don'tcha think?
All Black Americans are mulattoes. Black Americans are the real melting pot.
Hey, here's some breaking news…
US Troops just pulled out of a foreward base in Afghanistan on the Pakistani border. The local Taliban Chief is celebrating it as a huge victory for Islamic extremists over the "evil Americans." AP, Breitbart, et.al. have the story, and quotes from him utterly gleeful over the American pull-out.
Will the misnamed "Libertarians" at AntiWar.com be popping open the champaign bottles tonight over the American surrender?
If you're gonna be consistently AntiWar, you gotta be explicitly Pro-Surrender, as well.
In fact, you all may want to track this Afghan Islamist dude down, and maybe snap some photos with him holding your arms up in the air for a Victory well achieved against America.
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"If you're gonna be consistently AntiWar, you gotta be explicitly Pro-Surrender, as well. "
No.
Are you one of those silly people who think warfare is like a basketball game, with a concrete winner, one point ahead, and a concrete loser, one point behind? Not so! No one wins that way. Maybe one side is suffers more than another, but everyone suffers.
It's a bit more like business: you compete and in the end you negotiate. When both opponents are satisfied with negotiations, they quit competing.
As Sun Zi said, a really good leader goes straight to negotiations.
no he is a "libertarian" who deeply and strong believes in its values, its just that they don't really apply during war time and ….what oh we have to continue to engage in endless war around the world awww guess you got to support those Republicans
A fool, perhaps.
No, I don't need to support the Giant Octopus Party, the Party of Cthulhu.
HUH???!!! Being anti-war is "pro-surrender"? HUH?? "Surrender" to who? Those troops shouldn't have been there in the first place. The fact that the base was abandoned shows it wasn't very important to begin with. It was an American base on the Afghani-Pakistani border. It wasn't a Taliban base on the Canadian-American border.
Andy, you obviously haven't figured out that if we don't fight them over there, we'll be fighting them over here. That's right, the Taliban will build a blue water navy, navigate the Atlantic Ocean in the dead of the night, and invade the eastern seaboard, burning, raping and pillaging its way westward. We'll all be converted to Islam, speak Arabic, and live under Sharia Law. All of that because a bunch of libertarians celebrated our retreat from a forward base in Afghanistan.
Mr. Dondero is a moron. He's also a hypocrite. If he's so frightened of the terrorists, why doesn't he enlist? We need canon fodder over there, Eric. Time to defend the homeland!
As for the Nobel Peace Prize, I think its a fitting tribute: an empty award for an empty suit.
"We'll all be converted to Islam, speak Arabic, and live under Sharia Law."
In other words, it'll be pretty much like joining a fundamentalis mega-church.
Learning Arabic would actually be useful. Converting to Islam, not much different from becoming a Mormon or a Baptist. Muslims have more art. Sharia? It's an academic construct, which is why there are four (4) Sunni versions, and more among the Shi'a. It's considerably more philosophical and well-thought out than the usual US fundie protestant equivalents.
You're right, Steve. In fact, don't forget, the only reason America wasn't Vietnamese territory for the last 35 years is 'cause we fought them over there!
According to the Nobel committee, Obama was awarded the prize because of his work towards nuclear disarmament. Sorry I missed that. As far as I know, Obama has done nothing to further that end except pay it lip service, as did Reagan and Boy George Bush. Obama has agreed not to pressure Israel to sign the NPT and to refrain from acknowledging Israel's nuclear arsenal.
Pretending Israel's nuclear arsenal doesn't exist IS an example of nuclear disarmament, isn't it?
I mean, if Israeli nukes aren't counted, that reduces the official global stockpile of nukes!
Brilliant.
No, but it is putting the (Bush) Hog (with lipstick) before the (Casa Blanca) sty.
Perhaps you could explain to me how they are going to get to Mexico in the first place. There is a little thing. Perhaps you have heard of it in your broad experience. It's called the Atlantic ocean. Islamic hostility is largely a function of American foreign policy. The Mexican drug cartles are largely a function of America's drug-prohibition policies. You just don't get it.
You weren't defending America, whatever you may think. You were helping to maintain American hegemony.
I could not but ruminate over the fact that a US President was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize as he prosecuted a war in Afghanistan, against a country that had not attacked the US, (not a single Afghan was involved in 9/11, and the state of Afghanistan played no role as well) and a movement (Taliban) that had not fired a shot at Americans until we bombed, invaded and occupied their country. Granted Obama did not initiate this conflict, however, he presides over the largest military budget in the world, has troops stationed in over 130 countries around the globe and refuse to rescind orders for engaging in political assassinations (Predator, Reaper) based on fuzzy TV imagery.
But hey, I'm sure the wisdom of the nominating committee knows more than we do about what constitutes "peace" in the era of US pre-emptive warfare doctrine, and that the bottom line for the Haliburtons and the Perrinis must be preserved at all costs.
I could not but ruminate over the fact that a US President was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize as he continues to prosecute a war in Afghanistan, war against a country that had not attacked the US, (not a single Afghan was involved in 9/11, and the state of Afghanistan played no role as well) and war against a movement (Taliban) that had not fired a shot at Americans until we bombed, invaded and occupied their country. Granted Obama did not initiate this conflict, however, he presides over the largest military budget in the world, has troops stationed in over 130 countries around the globe and refuses to rescind orders for engaging in political assassinations (Predator, Reaper) based on fuzzy TV imagery.
But hey, I'm sure the wisdom of the nominating committee knows more than we do about what constitutes "peace" in the era of US pre-emptive warfare doctrine, after all, its us against them, right? And that the bottom line for the Haliburtons and the Perrinis under tow by their Congressional Spartan/stooges must be preserved at all costs.
Note that Norway is a foreign country, not a US state.
why is it so difficult for people who view government with such cynicism, to say to them selves hmmm an organization that declares for it self the exemplars of our generations would honor many a deserving people but every thing is politicized especially the institutions that claim to speak for the west.
i cant remember how many ignoramuses have use in augments with me, use the fact that "westerners" in general and 'jews" in particular are disproportional awarded Nobel prizes and thus proving their higher intelligence.
i mean if cnn or fox news or whatever awarded the president with a peace prize would any of us doing anything more than chuckle and be on with our day.
lets remember that the more internationalist democrats(at least compared to the republicans) exist in a far larger echo chamber since they actually pay some attention to what other peoples think.
which conversely means they have far more interest in exerting pressure on foreign opinion institutions. not saying this is some conspiracy,but after the isolation of the bush administration, who knows how far they are going to get Europe to back our wars.
why is it so difficult for people who view government with such cynicism, to say to them selves hmmm an organization that declares for it self the exemplars of our generations would honor many a deserving people but every thing is politicized especially the institutions that claim to speak for the west.
i cant remember how many ignoramuses have use in augments with me, the fact that "westerners" in general and 'jews" in particular are disproportional awarded Nobel prizes and thus proving their higher intelligence.
i mean if cnn or fox news or whatever awarded the president with a peace prize would any of us doing anything more than chuckle and be on with our day.
lets remember that the more internationalist democrats(at least compared to the republicans) exist in a far larger echo chamber since they actually pay some attention to what other peoples think.
which conversely means they have far more interest in exerting pressure on foreign opinion institutions. not saying this is some conspiracy,but after the isolation of the bush administration, who knows how far they are going to get Europe to back our wars.
Europeans are not interested in backing America's various wars of choice. They are quite content to enjoy their continent and let America continue its self-proclaimed role as world policeman. Unlike Americans, Europeans really did get a peace dividend after the cold war ended. But Europe never had the military-industrial complex America has.
Assume Norwegian politics has a lot to do with everything the Norwegian parliament does.
To Justin /Eric/Readers
Check this article by Michel Chossudovsky
http://pakalert.wordpress.com:80/2009/10/13/obama…
All your readers will benefit from it.Also at the bottom of the article–check out the referral–USA's 50 War criminals
Cheers :^/
Breaking News:
MUNCIE – The young military veteran who shot and killed himself in a Muncie movie theater late Monday has been identified as Jacob W. Sexton, 21, of Farmland.
…Sexton was on leave from serving in the Afghanistan war, but was set to return, according to the coroner’s office…
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Sexton had argued with theater employees after being asked to produce an ID to view the R-rated movie, saying he had killed 18 people in the service of his country, witnesses told police.
http://www.thestarpress.com/article/20091013/NEWS06/91013002/Police++Young+military+vet+shoots++kills+self+in+Muncie+movie+theater