Wikileaks Releases Video of US Choppers Slaying Reporters, Civilians

Scott Horton, April 05, 2010

Warning: Very Disturbing Footage

July 12, 2007

From CollateralMurder.com:

WikiLeaks has released a classified US military video depicting the indiscriminate slaying of over a dozen people in the Iraqi suburb of New Baghdad — including two Reuters news staff.

Reuters has been trying to obtain the video through the Freedom of Information Act, without success since the time of the attack. The video, shot from an Apache helicopter gun-site, clearly shows the unprovoked slaying of a wounded Reuters employee and his rescuers. Two young children involved in the rescue were also seriously wounded.

The military did not reveal how the Reuters staff were killed, and stated that they did not know how the children were injured.

After demands by Reuters, the incident was investigated and the U.S. military concluded that the actions of the soldiers were in accordance with the law of armed conflict and its own “Rules of Engagement”.

Consequently, WikiLeaks has released the classified Rules of Engagement for 2006, 2007 and 2008, revealing these rules before, during, and after the killings.

WikiLeaks has released both the original 38 minutes video and a shorter version with an initial analysis. Subtitles have been added to both versions from the radio transmissions.

WikiLeaks obtained this video as well as supporting documents from a number of military whistleblowers. WikiLeaks goes to great lengths to verify the authenticity of the information it receives. We have analyzed the information about this incident from a variety of source material. We have spoken to witnesses and journalists directly involved in the incident.

WikiLeaks wants to ensure that all the leaked information it receives gets the attention it deserves. In this particular case, some of the people killed were journalists that were simply doing their jobs: putting their lives at risk in order to report on war. Iraq is a very dangerous place for journalists: from 2003- 2009, 139 journalists were killed while doing their work.

Hat Tip: ZeroHedge

Update: AP Source Confirms Authenticity.




216 Responses to “Wikileaks Releases Video of US Choppers Slaying Reporters, Civilians”

  1. [...] Cross-Posted at Antiwar.com [...]

  2. Uh, they hate us for our freedom, right?

    As you sit down to fill out your tax forms this year remember that this is what your criminal, lying, murdering government does with the money it steals from you.

  3. I have never had a reaction like the one I just had after watching this; total and utter hopelessness…..

  4. My god. What have we become.

  5. The great Americans, just a bunch of criminals, murders, I'm disgusted over this so called great democratic and on top free world and don't you forget their constitution, we are the best nation and all their blablabla, F@&K OFF

  6. Somebody cue the Lee Greenwood.

  7. Just picture american citizens in the gun sights and you will get a picture of the future if the cornered rat ever feels threatened enough by the informed citizenry.

  8. (the day before-instant kharma")maybe this is how they/them keep the whole thing going (on purpose)

  9. Is an Internet global crackdown attempt next?

  10. I bet this will be all over the evening news! I bet the American people will be outraged when this is the lead story on all the networks and this outrage will lead to a change in policy! Hahaha…just kidding, I know this story will be ignored for other equally important stories. After all, Tiger Woods may have another mistress or something.

  11. And this is just one video that happened to be decrypted and scrutinised. How many non-combatants have been butchered this way by such professional lunatics? Way more than the Iraqi insurgence ever managed, I'd bet. It's time to call a war crime a war crime. The whole Iraqi invasion and occupation has been dramatically summarised by this one video: bogus intelligence and absurd strategic parameters.

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  13. sometymes "people,creatures,things,(gooing/tools)beings,animal half breeds beasts,(monstors defined)use words like freedom to describe a meaning better described as another "cannibolism,only some of the tyme are any thing except a another layer of calous on the side of the colective skull's brain,if thats' "freedom,i want my money back ,due,at others exspence,instead of mutual benefit,,,fraud murder,war states acts & mob mentalities,cowardly and ignareint,afraid to rationalise even justify,in the (safe,secured)open field of discipline or honor of an dis-honorable rank and eschaloen of yellow stripe of murder masquaraiding patent pending WAR,chicken-shIt,mfqrsz

  14. One things for d@mn sure…if the American people ever rose up and demanded an end to this Evil Empire and try to kick out those who run it you can bet our government masters wouldn't hesitate to have their sick, sadistic, murderous henchmen mow us down the way they did those hapless Iraqis.

    But our rulers have nothing to worry about…the majority of Americans are AMEROCONNED SHEEPLE who will never see this video because they are too busy watching AmeroConned Idle and other swill.

    And instead the AmeroConned Sheeple will keep re-electing the evil 2 party Demopuclicans over and over…

    There's no doubt about it. The American Government is a government of the criminals, by the criminals, for the criminals and is the most successful criminal enterprise the world has ever known.

  15. This is merely what is expected of an EMPIRE and "empire-thinking".

    The Empire is the ruling-elite global corporate/financial/militarist EMPIRE that currently controls 'our' (sic) country by hiding behind the facade of its TWO-PARTY modern 'Vichy' sham of faux democratic government.

    As much of a war crime as this 'collateral damage' is to those just killed in the oil territory at the tip of the Empire's spear, comparable 'collateral damage' is being done in the nominal home base of the Empire, here in America, by the economic oppression and domestic tyranny in America.

    As Hannah Arendt warns, "Empire abroad (always) entails tyranny at home"

    Alan MacDonald
    Sanford, Maine

  16. Yeah, how can you expect little Catie Couric, little Brian Williams or Tom Lockjaw to mention this on the nightly propaganda…er I mean nightly news when they got important stuff to cover like who's gonna be the next American Idol…or idle American?

  17. Looks like the guv thugs took down http://www.collateralmurder.com. Well, too late guv thugs…

  18. I was amazed that the helicopter crew seemed so sure of their identification of weapons. I could barely see the people. Shortly after the invasion, in the early stages of the insurgency, I saw a BBC video of a gunship takeout of several insurgents near a truck, moving what was identified as a rocket launcher or something. It looked to me like it could just as easily have been irrigation pipe.

    Nothing really new here. The only reason this gets any attention at all is that 2 of the dead were journalists. It happens all the time in war, especially the way the US fights them with overwhelming firepower. Helicopters need to be banned along with drones. They are indiscriminate. If the issue is important enough to sacrifice 100,000s of Iraqis, it's important enough to risk an equal number of American lives. Iraq and Af-Pak are just pure slaughter and terror.

    The callousness of the shooters is also in evidence, with the laughter etc. Even if the victims had truly been insurgents, the shooters should be taught to respect them. It's just the opposite. They are taught to be callous like that, if not directly in training then by the military culture. Medieval knights were more civilized than this.

  19. Did everyone hear that; they called the site a battle?! Well, this is the good old USA for you…a 'free country' that stands on the blood of innocent peoples of the world all in order to rack up more than 50% of world resources and counting. Poor mothers of American soldiers, they think their kids are heroes…more like child killers…After WWII, most all American soldiers died for no just cause; just as a means to loot innocent peoples of the world…Makes me sick!

  20. This is appalling . As a Brit I think its time we left NATO . Our friend , kindly Uncle Sam , is dead .

  21. Hitler's Third Reich would be very impress with the Israhell-US Fourth Reich; killing innocent civilians from the air, murdering women and children in cold blood on the ground in Iraq, Gaza, Lebanon, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and now Africa.

    The US and israhell are both terrorist states and are the enemy of the entire world and we shouldn't give a damn about any dead Fourth Reich volunteer.

  22. Sadly most amerikans are out to lunch, shopping, or glued to the propaganda tube ! So the terrorist acts by the fascist amerikan military machine will go on… no hope from obomber and his spineless congress !

  23. hahaha, I swear I wrote that kind of jokingly and then went and looked and Tiger Woods was the tp story on the NYT, CNN and NPR! The American press is actually that bad.

  24. This is so amateurish and bloodthirsty, it defies belief. This video will spread across the world, and it calls into utter question the training of US forces. The generals above this decision and the people in the helicopter demanding the ability to shoot should get what's coming to them, and from their own people.
    The scum who participated in this will have it hanging around their necks and their families for their whole lives, no matter how much they try to deny it. We all know where the real bastards are, and cowards as well, acting like they have a right to kill people from safety. Word to photographers, your cameras look like weapons to murderers with zero education. Word to Americans, these are the people coming back into your neighborhoods and your police forces.

  25. Boo hoo. I guess this is what happens when you hang around the streets of Iraq with guys with RPGs/

  26. "A military investigation later concluded that what was thought to be an RPG was really a long-range photography lens; likewise, the camera looked like an AK-47."

    AP April 2010

  27. To any person who still has an ounce of human compassion left in them, this video depicts nothing less than cold, callous, brutal, unmerciful murder. I believe in God. I believe that He is Christ Jesus. I believe that He is a loving God and a God of justice. One day all the men who took part in the massacre in the video will have to answer to Him for their crimes. On that day, I wouldn't want to stand in their shoes for all of the wealth and power on earth. "Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword' and; "blessed are the merciful for they will be shown mercy" and; "blessed are the peacemakers for they will be called sons of God." – His Majesty, Lord Jesus the Christ. Come quickly Lord Jesus.

  28. This sort of thing illustrates why Obama's nominee for Army General Counsel thinks his #1 job is to prosecute whistleblowers.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/apr/01/n

  29. That's a very sad article.

  30. “A military investigation later concluded that what was thought to be an RPG was really a long-range photography lens; likewise, the camera looked like an AK-47.”

    AP Source Confirms Video of Baghdad Firefight
    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/04/05/us/politics/AP-US-Iraq-Shooting.html

    Yeah. Serves those Iraqis right for walking around in their own country with photographic equipment.

  31. Spoken like a true idiot.

  32. at least he knows he's free

  33. wow just wow, shouldn't you be snacking on the souls of little children right now or something?

  34. Dont feed the trolls, they are soulless husks of "human beings" who deserve the same fate (and karma willing will get it) of the innocent deaths they cheer on. this dreg is probably a brainwashed clay soldier that unfortunately made it back from the war zone, lets hope on his next inevitable deployment that he gets what is coming to him.

  35. i'm sure things appear differently when you're sitting in a heli in the middle of a war, as opposed to watching this from a computer. soldiers gotta make hasty decisions, some of which are questionable. i can't say this isn't horrible and gruesome, but you can't blame the soldiers..

    bloodthirsty? i can't disagree more. they kept rules of engagement in mind the entire time. they asked for permission, they waited for "weapons" to be picked up, etc. in this case, they came to a conclusion based on false premises. =

    you don't have to support the war or the government or whatever, but at least support the soldiers.

  36. Tucholsky was right. Soldiers are murderers.

  37. It's back up. Just traffic causing slowdowns. Which is, as I see it, a good thing.

  38. donut writes:

    "you don't have to support the war or the government or whatever, but at least support the soldiers"

    Why? These guys signed up for war. Nobody forced them to sign up and they weren't drafted. They knew the gig was all about killing people and destroying things. Perhaps they are foolish and believed all the lies they have been told. Maybe they actually think they are helping Iraqis by dropping 100 tons of depleted uranium on them. Who knows what they think and who really cares. They need to accept responsibility for their own actions and understand there will be consequences for their actions. They are pathetic wretches that behave worse than animals. They don't deserve support. Let the bloodthirsty warmongers who instigated this madness support the people they use as cannon fodder. Of course, we know they won't.

  39. If you all are so appalled why don't you withhold your taxes. It's all of our fault by supporting this murder.

  40. Yeah Dave, that's an idea.

    But just remember if you refuse to pay you will be fined and if you refuse to pay the taxes and the fine men with guns will come after you.

    And if you resist they will kill you.

    You see Dave, WE ARE ALL IRAQIS NOW!

  41. Ok. Now someone please tell me what photos have we seen from Reutrs Apo or any other FN major News Service of any atrocitys or even killing of Iraquis in your local news medias.
    Does Reuters just have these guys out there taking pictures just for the heck of it.
    War Reporters, or war propagandist, who got caught in the crossfire.
    Embedded or in bed with.
    today the only real reporting is not by any Officially recognized medias but only by Independent jouranlist and most of hem sell to a blog or Foreign media outlets.
    Do agree though ther is not one thing american(small a today) could do to end the genocide that has been inflicted upon Iraq.
    Most would not be bothered by what we have just witnessed on flic.
    Nice fellas to wave our flags for when they come back home.

  42. a normal day of work for the paid murderers

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  44. That's was hella funny!! thanks for the vid!

  45. Knights may have gone about the act of killing with flourishes but they were still killers. Ours simply don't give a damn and chuckle while they chop people up. Rat bastards like that end up maning your local police squad car or the CIA drone centers once they exit the military. I mean… where in the hell in the "normal" world does someone put such evil talents to use but inside the belly of the beast.

  46. Moron. For all the high tech crap at their disposal they still couldn't get it right.

  47. Henry, I've seen similar, as stated earlier, where a man was blown to bits simply waking away from a tractor. He never knew why he had to die but the bastards in the air were making merry. And seeing as so many Christian friends of mine have never seen that nor this video I think its high time they all got a good glimpse at how we kill and lie indiscriminately. And this is only the tip of the evil iceberg.

  48. What kind of a lunatic wakes up one day and says, "Hey!… I want to man a console up in the sky and kill people"? Those are conscious decisions by folks with no shred of decency who seem to think that playing God in the air with peoples lives is somehow just and honorable. That's insane and no I don't support those actions nor the people involved. Only a fellow lunatic traveller would justify or excuse such behavior.

  49. yes, because we are free and democratic. thats whats makes them want to hijack our planes, not the fact that we murder their family members and then try to cover it up

  50. Notice how the typical "cowards" commenting here do so with the usual anonymous or toss away names. Seems the vid has struck some nerves and out come the statist freaks.

  51. i have no defense. we are truly worse than the romans. I wonder what jesus would tell all the so called christians in this fked up country today

  52. right, which beggars the question, WHY are WE over THERE??????

  53. More footage of americans murdering innocent iraqis

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP26FCViVC4&fe

  54. Baloney!

  55. Actually, I live outside the USA and none of my taxes go to support the wars, the Obamarama administration, etc.

  56. No, because people like us fussing and fuming on the net do not matter a bit.

  57. you think the IRS is stupid?

    thats why they started doing witholding income tax. You dont have the opportunity to decide whether to pay or not. Your employer pays it directly.

  58. You never wonder why Imam Khomeini called USA the Great Satan. He knew what we are discovering today.
    USA was founded with atrocities and continues to survive by atrocities. Poor Americans don't know who is running their country.

  59. khomeini called the US great satan because we encouraged saddam to invade iran and we supplied him for 8 years with weapons, particularly chemical and biological weapons, which he used to murder half a million Iranians……HALF A MILLION!!.

    how many people did al-qaeda kill on 9/11 to provoke us into attacking 3 muslim countries and murdering 1 million people?

    Then we shot down an iranian airliner, killing 300 women and children which we never apologized for and yet we have the nerve to call THEM terrorists..

  60. "how many people did al-qaeda kill on 9/11 to provoke us into attacking 3 muslim countries and murdering 1 million people?"

    That's an easy one: none.

  61. "they kept rules of engagement in mind the entire time. they asked for permission, they waited for "weapons" to be picked up,"

    Wait, I thought you said these were actions taken in haste in the heat of battle?

    Personally, I call laughing as you run over a dead body pretty bloodthirsty. I call it bloodthirsty to shoot those trying to render aid to the wounded. Now if those had been American troops trying to rescue a wounded comrade, there would be hell to pay if the enemy had shot at them.

  62. the greatest military in the world circling one fucking guy waiting for him to pick up a gun. this is war? what a joke. a REALLY horrible joke.

  63. Someone needs to rub this in the noses of James Dobson, Charles Stanley, Rod Parsley, John Hagee, and all of the other state-worshiping Evangelifrauds who extol the virtues of "our troops" every Sunday morning from the pulpits of those ecclesio-fascist corporations that they dare call "churches." Let them TRY to justify this without exposing themselves as the satanically-controlled charlatans they are!

    Better yet, show this video to any "evangelical Christians" [sic] you happen to know. I'll bet their reaction to it (i.e., some mindless, incoherent rambling about "Satan's legions reaping the wages of sin") will be even more sickening than the video footage itself!

  64. you don't have to support the war or the government or whatever, but at least support the soldiers.

    Wrong, wrong, WRONG! Without soldiers who willingly do the State's murderous dirty work, THERE WOULD BE NO WARS AND NO MURDEROUS CRIMES LIKE THAT DEPICTED IN THIS VIDEO!

    Each and every one of the soldiers who participated in this act of barbarism DID SO CONSCIOUSLY, WILLINGLY, AND, FROM ALL APPEARANCES, WITHOUT REMORSE! That alone makes them unworthy of anyone' s "support." Indeed, the only just reaction to their deeds is OUTRAGE, CENSURE, and DEMANDS THAT THEY BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE!

    Every soldier, no matter how low in rank, has a moral and legal obligation to disobey an unlawful order, and such an order certainly includes attacking and murdering unarmed civilians. That these troops not only did NOT refuse to obey that order, but carried out with obvious relish makes them war criminals who deserve no one's "support!"

  65. no, the printing press at the fed finances this.

  66. just and honorable? we're not fighting samurai. in fact, we're up against people who fight in the most dishonorable ways. hiding among civilians? ieds? suicide bombers? how can you not get paranoid and assume the worst when you're up against that?

  67. Didn't some dude get killed years back while on patrol and his "buds" go ape-shit and killed a whole mess of civilians? That's right… I think one of them is on trial. Then there was that inconvenient incident where Blackwater shot up all those folks because, as they said, they felt "threatened". Hell! By that logic just being alive is a threat to these bastards. Or, as some Muslims have already done, is help send these mental and moral defectives to that place where such mundane worries don't exist. The only way for this to end is for lots of troops to die (start something with Iran) or an economic collapse, or both. Either way it won't until it simply hurts too much.

  68. Americans were told that the "terrorist attack" of 9/11 justified the invasion of Iraq. The invasion of Iraq, of course, led to subject war crime of this article and many other war crimes in Iraq such as; Abu Ghraib and the assault on Fallujah that used chemical weapons. But what if the events of 9/11, as we have been led to believe, not entirely the truth? What if there is very powerful evidence that proves that airplane impact could not possibly have caused the total destruction of the three buildings that came crashing down that fateful day? Has there been a coverup? Go here for the evidence: http://www.ae911truth.org/ Also, why did Paul Craig Roberts quit writing? Paul Craig Roberts says that he was trying to reveal the truth about 9/11 but censored by the MSM, Antiwar and other websites. Go here for his interview on Russia Today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDNLDXQdlBQ&feature=f... If millions of Americans knew the real truth concerning the events of 9/11, the wars and the war crimes would stop.

  69. Americans were told that the "terrorist attack" of 9/11 justified the invasion of Iraq. The invasion of Iraq, of course, led to the subject war crime of this article and many other war crimes in Iraq such as; Abu Ghraib and the assault on Fallujah that used chemical weapons. But what if the events of 9/11, as we have been led to believe, were not entirely the truth? What if there is very powerful evidence that proves that airplane impact could not possibly have caused the total destruction of the three buildings that came crashing down that fateful day? Has there been a coverup? Go here for the evidence: http://www.ae911truth.org/ Also, why did Paul Craig Roberts quit writing? Paul Craig Roberts says that he was trying to reveal the truth about 9/11 but was censored by the MSM, Antiwar and other websites. Go here for his interview on Russia Today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDNLDXQdlBQ&feature=f... If millions of Americans knew the real truth concerning the events of 9/11, the wars and the war crimes would stop.

  70. Americans were told that the "terrorist attack" of 9/11 justified the invasion of Iraq. The invasion of Iraq, of course, led to the subject war crime of this article and many other war crimes in Iraq such as; Abu Ghraib and the assault on Fallujah that used chemical weapons. But what if the events of 9/11, as we have been led to believe, were not entirely the truth? What if there is very powerful evidence that proves that airplane impact could not possibly have caused the total destruction of the three buildings that came crashing down that fateful day? Has there been a coverup? Go here for the evidence: http://www.ae911truth.org/ Also, why did Paul Craig Roberts quit writing? Paul Craig Roberts says that he was trying to reveal the truth about 9/11 but was censored by the MSM, Antiwar and other websites. Go here for his interview on Russia Today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDNLDXQdlBQ&feature=f... If millions of Americans knew the real truth concerning the events of 9/11, the wars and the war crimes would stop.

  71. Americans were told that the "terrorist attack" of 9/11 justified the invasion of Iraq. The invasion of Iraq, of course, led to the subject war crime of this article and many other war crimes in Iraq such as; Abu Ghraib and the assault on Fallujah that used chemical weapons. But what if the events of 9/11, as we have been led to believe, were not entirely the truth? What if there is very powerful evidence that proves that airplane impact could not possibly have caused the total destruction of the three buildings that came crashing down that fateful day? Has there been a coverup? Go here for the evidence: http://www.ae911truth.org/ Also, why did Paul Craig Roberts quit writing? Paul Craig Roberts says that he was trying to reveal the truth about 9/11 but was censored by the MSM, Antiwar and other websites. Go here for his interview on Russia Today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDNLDXQdlBQ&feature=f... If millions of Americans knew the real truth concerning the events of 9/11, the wars and the war crimes would stop.

  72. Truly disgusting. War crimes.

  73. totally agree with liberranter. Evangelical “leaders” like James Dobson, Chuck Colson, Charles Stanley, Pat Robertson, etc, etc, buy into this “war on terrorism” BS hook, line and sinker. Do you think they care about all the Iraqis that have died in this war? Do you think they care about the plight of the Palestinians? Do you think they question, for one second, any military action EVER of the US government? NOPE, wave the flag, support the troops. What a disgrace these people are to the name of Christ, and indeed, to anyone who can think!

  74. [...] The video released by Wikileaks showing US fighter planes picking off civilians as our airmen chortle with glee is shocking everyone. Everyone but me, that is. [...]

  75. [...] The video released by Wikileaks showing US fighter planes picking off civilians as our airmen chortle with glee is shocking everyone. Everyone but me, that is. [...]

  76. Where does one go to renounce one's citizenship? This is sickening!

  77. [...] The video released by Wikileaks showing US fighter planes picking off civilians as our airmen chortle with glee is shocking everyone. Everyone but me, that is. [...]

  78. [...] murder as routine The video released by Wikileaks showing US helicopters picking off civilians as our airmen chortle with glee [...]

  79. The "fight" depicted here is no more a fight, than Palin shooting at various wild life like-wise from a helicopter constitutes "hunting". Or am I missing something…
    Donut, it'd be great if you were ripped another O

  80. I am sad for my country and pray to my Lord Jesus for His mercy upon us. I also apologize to those around the world who have suffered at the hands of our abysmal foreign policy. As Americans, we may have much to be proud of, but true courage also demands admission of the horrible mistakes we have made. What makes me even sadder is that if I showed this to anyone supportive of this 'liberation,' I am sure I would hear one (or more) of the following:

    1. "Well, you know…that's just part of war."
    2. "But would you rather have Saddam back in power?"
    3. "They should try these 'wikileakers' for treason!"
    4. "Oh well…two less members of the liberal media."
    5. "Those look like guns to me."

    Peace be with you.

  81. I empathize with what you are saying: but I support those troops in that helicopter by stating that they should never have been placed in that situation to begin with. That is the real shame.
    Please understand this: we present ourselves to the world as a shining example of democracy* in action. So whenever we go on those foolhardy missions, the folks on the receiving end can rightly claim that 'we' (you, I, and every other American) are in that very same cockpit, shooting at innocent civilians. They (our troops and our foreign policy) represent 'us,' in the same way that a child represents his family, or an employee represents his employer.
    I don't really know how many times this needs to restated, but THIS is the kind of activity that drives terrorism. The innocent kids who were shot. Their parents. Their relatives. Would you really be surprised if one of them showed up in a C4-suit at the US Embassy in Baghdad? Could you really blame them?

    Peace be with you.

    *Yes, yes, I know. We're a republic, not a democracy.

  82. [...] The video released by Wikileaks showing US helicopters picking off civilians as our airmen chortle with glee is shocking everyone. Everyone but me, that is. [...]

  83. This is not as simple as it looks. There are so many takes on this that this particular bit, w/o explanation, can honestly be described as propaganda, in that it seeks to sway the viewer, and IT IS NOT COMPLETELY HONEST ITSELF!
    If you accept that the US has cause to be incountry in the first place ( I do not), and if you accept that in being there, the soldiers involved are correct in performing their duties in a thorough and legal manner (which I DO…soldiers are often placed in difficult ethical situations by their governments; and their opinions are not solicited)
    then it follows that THE FIRST ENGAGEMENT WAS LIKELY WITHIN THE ROE FOR THE OPERATION because: (cont)

  84. cont
    1. ANYONE not in uniform that is observed carrying arms is a legitimate target. Careful observation of the tape shows 2 maybe 3 long guns. These were described as AK’s, but they look more like hunting rifles to me. Nevertheless, two or three of the people, at the least, are armed with weapons that might be used to cause harm to troops in the area, whether on foot, mounted, or airborne.
    2. An unarmed person choosing to walk around in a war zone, with persons who ARE armed, is not choosing to exhibit rational behaviour. There is a very real possibility that he/she might get tarred with the same brush.

  85. 3. Anyone carrying anything that might APPEAR to be a weapon, in the company of those who ARE armed is likewise making a grave tactical error. The gentleman in question aimed, from behind cover (that is from around the corner of a building, behaving as if he had something to hide or feared to make himself a target) a longish looking black thing at a helicopter gunship. To do so is deserving of a belated Darwin Award. I'm sorry, but the man behaved insanely. Was he innocent? Probably. Did he deserve to die? No. But you cannot walk down the street with guerilla warriors, aim what, inarguably, might be a weapon, at one of the most feared war platforms in the world, and not expect your number to come up, thinking that, “I’m a reporter, I’m a good guy. I’m neutral in this.”
    (cont)

  86. (cont)
    Putting a spin on this first engagement such that it appears that there is fault on the part of the troops here is dishonest reporting. Trying to use this portion of the tape as a tool to wake ppl to the horrors of war is one thing; to use it to raise doubts about the legality of the performance of the men who took part is dishonest. They performed as they were supposed to given the circumstances. Their obvious satisfaction at being allowed to “ fuckin’ just open em up!” not withstanding, they did what they were there to do, and likely, within the letter of the law.
    So much for the first engagement.
    (cont)

  87. The second engagement is another matter entirely, GIVEN THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE, that is, only that which is in the tape. Attacking a rescue operation is WITHOUT EXCUSE! The men who so did are appear to be guilty of murder, should be so charged, and executed as war criminals when found guilty. There was no immediate threat to any forces in the area, there were NO WEAPONS VISIBLE! I am appalled that the people who assessed this later on did not find the troops on the scene culpable.

    THIS is where the crime is: that those attempting to save lives should be killed while doing so, and that this should be covered up.

  88. (cont)
    My take? Don’t use the first engagement to indict the soldiers involved on legal grounds. That is not, in my opinion, honest, and it makes it appear that those of us who are vehemently opposed to the occupation of Iraq, Afghanistan, and other areas of interest, are in league with anti war propagandists.
    The truth is awful enough; lying to make a worse case places anti’s on the same moral plane as those who spin for the war machine.

  89. LOL! That is an erudite observation. Anymore analysis?

  90. I appreciate your point of view and your defense of men who were placed in such a horrible position. It can be unfair to look back without actually being there at the time. But a couple of points, if I may:
    "An unarmed person choosing to walk around in a war zone, with persons who ARE armed, is not choosing to exhibit rational behaviour."
    As someone who does not personally own any firearms, I would still contend that anyone NOT carrying some kind of weapon in that environment is not being completely rational. Obvously it was/is not wise to rely on either the Iraqi security or coaltion forces for your personal security (as we have seen after tens of thousand of dead innocent civilians.)

  91. (cont.)
    "Nevertheless, two or three of the people, at the least, are armed with weapons that might be used to cause harm to troops in the area, whether on foot, mounted, or airborne. "
    But we know this is not the case. How? Listen to the request early in the tape (3:54.) The CO specifically indicated that we had no personnel in the area. So even if these civilians had weapons, who exactly were they threatening? They were obviously not threatening to shoot down a helicopter (indeed, they were completely oblivious to it.) Were the soldiers orders to simply fly around and kill anyone who happened to be carrying anything that looked like a weapon? That seems like a mighty excessive mandate to me.

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  92. i was fooled by this. i am extremely disappointed by the way wikileaks portrayed this subject.

    the men first fired on in the video had weapons. two of them (this has been admitted by by the wikileaks editor AFTER it was released).

    so in context, these soldiers fired on a group of men congregating together in a known warzone (there was ground fighting barely a mile from where this was going on), 2 of whom had cameras (as they were reuters journalists), and two of whom had weapons (AK and RPG). this info can be found on the net, as the US actually carried out their own investigation (at the request of reuters) closer the when it happened.

    wikileaks mention nothing of these men having weapons, and instead portray it as an unprovoked attack. the attack was wrong and shouldn't have happened, but it was a mistake, not an act of evil.

    the one part that still retains any merit, is the part where the van was attacked, as the two men were merely helping an injured friend/co worker (combatant in the US' eyes) and attacking them was a direct violation of the 1st geneva convention, article 3. attacking an already injured and, believed to be, combatant.

    i'm extremely disappointed by wikileaks. extremely disappointed.

  93. actually the man pointed the camera (which was perceived to be an RPG) at the 'copter.

    there was fighting going on around 1 mile from the victims' loctaion, the helicopters were there for aerial support.

  94. I don't think the fault lies so much with the soldiers. They were appearently following their rules of engagement and were shooting at who they thought were armed insurgents. In that sense it was a tragic mistake. The fault lies with the decision to have us fight an uneccesary war in the first place.

  95. This is not an isolated incident and it is not just the action of few (bad apples!).This has been the patteren trhough the US history begging with the wars aginst the pre_European inhibtants ,the savages,the Philipians,the Vietnamese,continuing to this day.There have been so many horror stories like this coming from Iraq,Afghnistan,and pakistan that were covered up.

  96. The bodies of women and children, still in their nightclothes, apparently shot in their own homes; interior walls and ceilings peppered with bullet holes; bloodstains on the floor.
    Eyewitness accounts suggest that comrades of TJ Terrazas, far from coming under enemy fire, went on the rampage in Haditha after his death.
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  97. In another house seven people including a child and his 70-year-old grandfather were killed. Four brothers aged 41 to 24 died in a third house. Eyewitnesses said they were forced into a wardrobe and shot.

    In the street, US troops gunned down four students and a taxi driver they had stopped at a roadblock set up after the bombing.

    According to a witness, they were shot by the side of the road, as they stood with their hands on their heads.
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  98. In one of the statements, John Doe 2, who worked for Blackwater for four years, alleged that Mr Prince “views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe” and that his companies “encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life”.
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  99. Report: Blackwater guard saw Iraqi killings as 9/11 revenge http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/09/08/report-bla

  100. But pro-war Americans defended the song as “funny,” the author explained that the Arabic words were actually from a South Park movie, and in short order the author became a sort of hero among pro-war conservatives, even announcing at one point that he was recording the song and taking the show on the road.

    Shortly thereafter, 14-year-old ‘Abir Hamzah was brutally gang-raped, then burned by soldiers after her family—father, mother, and younger sister, had been shot by them. The soldiers who murdered her had been sexually harassing her (described as “making advances” towards her) every day as she passed through a checkpoint near her home to do chores for her family. She was scared and had told her mother about it several times, and her mother had spoken with friends and even asked whether her daughter could stay with them. Several times the soldiers had staged searches of the family home, presumably in the course of planning the rape and murders.
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  101. These stories will never made into movies because they show the real vicitims of the US wars and what they go through unlike those movies that focus only and glorify American soliders and their supposdly pains.

  102. James Dobson, Charles Stanley, Rod Parsley, John Hagee, and all of the other state-worshiping Evangelifrauds , not to forget Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh,Sean Hannity,Bill O'reilly all celebrate and find justifications and excueses for such actions . As usual they defend such actions as things get out of hand in war,the stress that "our fighting hereos " have to face fighting those terrorists.In the end ,they will blame everything on those ungratful Iraqis.

  103. A few months ago, Abir Al-Janabi was just another 14-year-old Iraqi girl in a small town called Al-Mahmudiyah, south of Baghdad. Both of her parents are from the Al-Janabi tribe, one of the biggest tribes with Sunni and Shia branches.

    Omar Al-Janabi, a neighbor and relative, was informed by Abir's mother that the young girl was being harassed by U.S. soldiers stationed in a nearby checkpoint. That is why Abir was sent to spend the night in her neighbor's home. The next day, Omar Al-Janabi was among the first people who found Abir, with her 34-year-old mother Fakhriyah, her 45-year-old father Qasim, and her 7-year-old sister Hadil, murdered in their home. Abir was raped, killed by a bullet in her head, and then burned on March 12, five months before her fifteenth birthday. http://www.baltimorechronicle.com/2006/071206JARR

  104. Wondering what the blowback will be for this?

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  117. Americans are sucker to propaganda more than most. Sad really, as I like them as people

  118. when they said there's no personnel in the area, they were talking about whether or not they had ground troops nearby to more accurately assess the suspicious situation. since there was nobody around, the apache crew took it upon themselves to deal with it according to what they have observed.

  119. on the flip side, these guys signed up to be placed in harm's way in order to protect your rights.

  120. I also used to think that was what they were robbing us for, but then I read somewhere that the money those crooks pick from our pockets gets spent well before they start buying bullets, probably on drapery cleaning and wood polish for the lavish halls of Castle Grayskull, "executive" massages, and top-shelf liquor. If they soaked us for all the costs of kicking every recalcitrant brown ass across the globe, this time of year would probably be a lot more painful for us. No, the revenue they get from fleecing the productive class doesn't even begin to cover their tab, so enter the magical printing press, by which our immediate pain is deferred to our progeny. If I had been paying attention to politics 10 years ago, I would have gotten a vasectomy.

  121. So very, very sad. This is a crime. They wanted to kill.

  122. Tell me again why we're at war in Iraq and Afghanistan and killing innocent civilians?

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  125. You should take look at the soldiers comments.
    "nice shootin man"
    Is this a shooting range??
    I remember seeing the Night of the Museum movie when the soldier said "We dont think we just attack!"
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  126. This is why..I just don't appreciate America for their actions. Bush. He escalated a full scale war against Iraq just to kill 1 person. Now America slaughters innocents.

  127. Hey "World Citizen"…I have flagged your comment for removal & I hope to God, for the sake of my daughter, that it is REMOVED before she returns home from duty & reads your ignorant judgement of the kind of human being she is!! You are fortunate to have posted this on the internet & not to my face!

  128. Americans were in the cross fire . its called 9 11 . dont ever forget that . while i dont like what i saw in this video dont ever think a rat can kill a lion

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  132. For what you all call the courageous source of dedication to ( Weak-e-leaks )-Were any of you ever in a battle -having someone shooting at you – Get real- its call WAR! While your sitting down tearing this great country down- someone is fighting for your right to do so. From the Bolshevvik revolution to the Radical terrorist of today-who use this type of propaganda to push their agenda . where has a apology tour ever won a war ? answer- never! God bless America.

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  144. Hitler's Third Reich would be very impress with the Israhell-US Fourth Reich; killing innocent civilians from the air, murdering women and children in cold blood on the ground in Iraq, Gaza, Lebanon, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and now Africa.

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  145. is is so amateurish and bloodthirsty, it defies belief. This video will spread across the world, and it calls into utter question the training of US forces. The generals above this decision and the people in the helicopter demanding the ability to shoot should get what's coming to them, and from their own people.
    The scum who participated in this will have it hanging around their necks and their families for their whole lives, no matter how much they try to deny it. We all know where the real bastards are, and cowards as well, acting like they have a right to kill people from safety. Word to photographers, your cameras look like weapons to murderers with zero education. Word to Americans, these are the people coming back

  146. I bet this will be all over the evening news! I bet the American people will be outraged when this is the lead story on all the networks and this outrage will lead to a change in policy! Hahaha…just kidding, I know this story will be ignored for other equally important stories. After all, Tiger Woods may have another mistress or something.

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  151. bet this will be all over the evening news! I bet the American people will be outraged when this is the lead story on all the networks and this outrage will lead to a change in policy! Hahaha…just kidding, I know this story will be ignored for other equally important stories. After all, Tiger Woods may have another mistress or something.

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  157. And this is just one video that happened to be decrypted and scrutinised. How many non-combatants have been butchered this way by such professional lunatics? Way more than the Iraqi insurgence ever managed, I'd bet. It's time to call a war crime a war crime. The whole Iraqi invasion and occupation has been dramatically summarised by this one video: bogus intelligence and absurd strategic parameters.

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