Michael Scheuer, former chief of the CIA’s bin Laden unit and author of Marching Toward Hell: America and Islam After Iraq, discusses the government’s reliance on CIA covert action instead of conventional military force to protect the U.S., how the Congress and President fail to take meaningful action because they seek the adulation of the media and Europe,  the wisdom in leaving Afghanistan ASAP and how Americans won’t realize their government isn’t protecting them until Osama bin Laden attacks again.

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Michael Scheuer is a 22-year veteran of the CIA and the author of Through Our Enemies Eyes: Osama bin Laden, Radical Islam, and the Future of America, Marching Toward Hell: America and Islam After Iraq and Imperial Hubris: Why the West Is Losing the War on Terror.

Dilip Hiro, author of the article “The Clash of Islam and Democracy in Iran,” discusses the cyclical problems typical of aging revolutions, Iran’s younger generation that doesn’t remember the Shah, the history of the coup and revolution and the current democratic election protests.

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Dilip Hiro is the author of five books on Iran, the latest being The Iranian Labyrinth: Journeys Through Theocratic Iran and its Furies, as well as most recently Blood of the Earth: The Battle for the World’s Vanishing Oil Resources. His upcoming book After Empire: The Rise of a Multipolar World will be published by Nation Books later this year.