Patrick Cockburn, Middle East correspondent for the Independent discusses the assassination of Benhazir Bhutto in Pakistan, the problem of Islamists there, how terrorism works, and the situation between competing factions in Iraq as it stands in Iraq at the end of 2007.

MP3 here. (49:04)

Patrick Cockburn is the author of The Occupation: War, resistance and daily life in Iraq, a finalist for the National Book Critics’ Circle Award for best non-fiction book of 2006.