Pat, Buchanan, politician, author, syndicated columnist and broadcaster discuses his new book, Churchill, Hitler, and The Unnecessary War: How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World, Scott McClellan’s allegations against Bush, the mistakes that Winston Churchill and other British politicians made in dealing with Hitler, Churchill’s desire for war against the Germans, the destruction of the British Empire and the creation of the Cold War, Bush’s admiration of Churchill, comparison of today’s and previous dictators to Hitler, the false comparison of today’s Iran to Hitler’s Third Reich and the reduction of the American standard of living and the U.S. dollar.

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Pat Buchanan is an American politician, author, syndicated columnist and broadcaster. Buchanan was a senior adviser to American presidents, Nixon, Ford and Reagan, and was an original host on CNN’s Crossfire. He sought the Republican presidential nomination in 1992 and 1996. He ran on the Reform Party ticket in the 2000 presidential election. He co-founded The American Conservative magazine and launched a foundation named The American Cause. He has been published in Human Events, National Review, The Nation and Rolling Stone. His new book is called Churchill, Hitler, and The Unnecessary War: How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World.

Andy Worthington, author of The Guantanamo Files: The Stories of the 774 Detainees in America’s Illegal Prison, discusses his recent article on the trials of sixteen Guantanamo “detainees,” how Australian David Hicks is too traumatized to tell his story, Omar Khadr, the Canadian child soldier being held despite international law, how Salim Hamdan’s legal case caused the Supreme Court to rule the original incarnation of the military commissions illegal, Mohamed Jawad, another minor, charged with harmlessly throwing a grenade, there’s Ahmed al-Darbi who’s giving the commissions a hard time by refusing to play a part in his show trial, KSM, Ramzi bin al Shib, the reasons behind the dropping of the charges against al Qatani, the “requestioning” of the tortured in a ridiculous attempt to wipe the torture slate clean, how the whole military commission system resembles a patchwork of lies to excuse lies, the hundreds of years it has taken to develop Anglo-American traditions of law to protect liberty, the shame of its abandonment and necessity of its return, the results of the fake terror scares tortured out of the innocent, half-wit, crazy man, Abu Zabayduh, the superiority of the FBI’s good cop approach to interrogation, the DoJ IG report [.pdf] about the FBI’s “War Crimes” file on the Guantanamo and the sordid details of several of the other eleven trials now in process.

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Andy Worthington is a historian based in London. He is the author of The Guantánamo Files, the first book to tell the stories of all the detainees in Guantanámo. He writes regularly on issues related to Guantánamo and the “War on Terror” on his Web site.