Victor Navasky

Now This is a Major Turning Point


Victor Navasky discusses his new book Mission Accomplished: Or How We Won the War in Iraq, how all of the “experts,” including John McCain, got it all wrong on the Iraq invasion, the war’s dozens of “turning points” according to the White House and it’s pundits and how the same propaganda tactics are being used against Iran.

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Victor Navasky is the publisher emeritus of The Nation and the President or CEO of the Institute for Expertology.

7 thoughts on “Victor Navasky”

  1. They (the neocons) knew what was going to happen in Iraq. It was an old Israeli plan from 1982 Oded Yinon. The whole point was to drive Iraq into warring factions which they knew damn well would happen. The point of the war is not to “win” as in end the violence, the point of war is to prolong violence as long as possible. They wrote it all out, why they wanted a war and how they would do it. BEFORE PNAC were the Israeli Clean break papers and the Oded plan, written and read by the same people as PNAC.

    I don’t understand the glorification of Colin Powell either. He aways was an idiot they act like he just made one mistake at the end of his career. Bullshit he was always an idiot. The “experts” all did what they are supposed to do they did the same thing about Frum’s speech the “axis of evil” which Bush read and right afterward even Democrats were saying things like that was brilliant (because the MSM told them it was) and the line was well Bush is an idiot but the people around him are really smart. News flash yeh Bush is an idiot but the people around him don’t live in bizzaro world. Absolute nut cases and Bush’s father knew that.

    ps The French were right. (again)

    My point is that for all the junk the neocons said they knew it was not true. They are not as stupid as they sound. They know its crap and they know that the propaganda will work well enough to allow them to continue it.

  2. They know that Iran will be a complete disaster too and they don’t care. Israel is first second and third for them. They don’t believe the stuff they are saying about Iran, they are just searching for things to say. We know they knew they were lying about Iraq based on the forges signatures and the re-vamp old Israeli intel that they went back over in the MSM from the 1990s to be used in the 2001-2003 to justify invasion. CHemicals under the palaces (1993) mobile labs (1997) anthrax (1990s) nukes (1998) they just re-used the same lies only thins time post 911 with a willing media and a president ready to go from the day he got into office. Hell Bush had bombed Iraq 27 days after swearing into office (Feb 2001) and that was before 911. Of course 911 had nothing to do with Iraq notr did it allow the war. American people have been dumb and willing enough to go along with wars for our whole TV era history. Bush’s father invaded 3 countries Iraq, Somalia, Panama, and CLinton had his wars too. Nothing changed really. Just more people hate Bush because of the Internet more people are now aware of what is ALWAYS going on.

  3. I agree with you about that. They know they are full of it. Heck, Gareth Porter has been debunking the “Iran is killing our guys in Iraq” lie approx once a week for a year and a half straight. The major media voices who continue to ignore his work are as complicit in the next war as everyone now finally understands they were in the war we have now.

  4. iran is in the same no win situation as iraq was if iran complied with every un or us mandate they would still be bombed it does not matter what iran does or does not do they can not avoid a us-israeli attack

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