The same is true, as you say, with Hagee’s otherworld remarks that keep the power elites – where the real power resides – driving forward and controlling the dominant American narrative.

Israel has nothing to do with American Jews. Israel is a fascist apartheid regime which hides behind the cloak of religion and ethnicity to avoid critiques. The Jews don’t whole a common belief any more than the “whites.” and its misleading even on the macro level because many Jews (esp antiwar) are actually atheist but call themselves Jewish. Just think on the top of your head some of the most famous anti-war people who are Jewish and count the number of atheists. Chomsky, Jon Stewart, Mhar, etc.

Hagee is wrong For the record Hitler was not part Jewish (Stalin was though) and he was 100% Christian and Marx may have been ethnically Jewish but was an Atheist.

The Bible is mythology but according to the story actually the 140k people and all from the 12 tribes of Israel who get saved and everyone else is screwed.

Cheney is part of the Institute for Jewish affairs. (which also has nothing to do with Jews). Cheney is a Zionist. (He also has financial overlaps)

War with Iran will be terrible for Israel but again AIPAC doesn’t give a shit about Israel they use the religious dupes as useful idiots. AIPAC cares about generating conflicts because that is what is best for the MIC.

Yes Scott you defined Neocon correctly. That is how we define it on Anti-Neocons.com as well. Poeple need to realize that organized religions are multinational billion dollar companies that don’t pay taxes. AIPAC does not register itself as a foreign agent unlike all other foreign lobbies. Churches are and always have been part of financing and profiting from war. From the days of killing “Indians” to now that is what they have pushed for. When it came to other Christians like Central and South America the new pretext became the war on drugs. And its the same kooks supporting that too.

Israel is not a signatory to the NPT. It is israel that developed atomic weapons in the 1960’s under the guise of a civilian reactor at dimona. What we see now is Israeli paranoia and projection of their own duplicity. In addition to nuclear weapons, Israel has active and ongoing chemical and biological weapons programs.

Israel is responsible for the greatest terror attack of the last 40 years which is the destruction of nearly 20,000 palestinian homes on the west bank during the illegal occupation and settlement. Iran has not occupied or attacked any nation as far as I know. Iran has done nothing to the US since 1979. Nothing. Same as Iraq. Our foreign policy is not directly related to US interests. We could easily be friends with Iran and benefit. We could use our friendship with iran to influence policies in lebanon and palestine. The problem is the israelis fear a powerful or developed islamic nation. It is paranoia. This is not directly about nuclear weapons, it is the israelis wanting to use the US to weaken islamic development. Illusory weapons programs are an excuse.

The Israeli lobby is a parasite. Huge percentages of the funding of both parties comes from these lobbies and the wealthy militaristic racist jews who support it. It is this money which is corrupting the process. The only way out is for the leaders of both major parties to agree to no longer allow this money to influence their platforms.

Now compare this with the tone and content of Jim Lobe’s pieces over the past year or two, which call us not to a properly appalled appreciation of the facts, but to paralysis and even complacency as we behold carefully contrived and utterly phony complexities and uncertainties – (”Well, it looks like we’re probably not going to attack Iran …. but maybe we will … but probably not … but Israel’s supporters don’t really want war … or some of them do, but it’s really deeper than that .. oh, have you fallen asleep? … well, that’s fine, too … because there’s really nothing to be done at this time … it’s all so complicated, best to wait and see …”).

It reminds me of what Norman Finkelstein writes in “Beyond Chutzpah”, on p. xxvi of the preface, under “Mystifying the Conflict”:

“It is often alleged that the Israel-Palestine conflict is so complex that a knowledge on the order of rocket science is need to penetrate its mysteries….”

And later, on page 2 of the introduction: “Looking back after two decades of study and reflection, I am struck most by how *un*complicated the Israel-Palestinian conflict is.”

Finkelstein talks a lot about how the manufacture of phony complexities serves the purpose of Israel’s defenders, including the “liberal” ones, who want us to keep giving Israel lavish financial, military, and even emotional support while refraining from trying to put any conditions on Israeli behavior, because we Americans, especially if we’re not Jewish, can never hope to understand how complicated it all is.

(And of COURSE, the threats of war against Iran have NOTHING to do with the incredibly steep and massive spike in oil prices we’re seeing, threatening to wipe us out economically before we even start the next insane war. It’s all only because of our “addiction to oil” which we should even use, because Arabs sell it, and Israel doesn’t have any. And by the way, we need to send more money to Israel, because the oil WHICH THEY BUY FORM IRAN is getting so very expensive….)