Scott Horton Interviews Pat Buchanan

Scott Horton, August 16, 2008

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Pat Buchanan, conservative commentator and author, most recently of Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War, discusses the crisis in Georgia, why he thinks the Russian action on behalf of South Ossetia was justified, comparisons between Russian moves in the Caucasus to interwar Germany and Britain, the stupidity of the war guarantees and new missile defense systems going into Eastern Europe, the limits of American imperial power and the question of whether the administration gave Saakashvili the green light to attack South Ossetia.

MP3 here. (25:30)

Pat Buchanan is an American politician, author, syndicated columnist and broadcaster. Buchanan was a senior adviser to American presidents, Nixon, Ford and Reagan, and was an original host on CNN’s Crossfire. He sought the Republican presidential nomination in 1992 and 1996. He ran on the Reform Party ticket in the 2000 presidential election. He co-founded The American Conservative magazine and launched a foundation named The American Cause. He has been published in Human Events, National Review, The Nation and Rolling Stone. His new book is called Churchill, Hitler, and The Unnecessary War: How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World.

59 Responses to “Pat Buchanan”

  1. Scott Horton,

    The Clown Prince of Con Men is back!!! Of course you are true to form in having gatekeepers on the right (Pat Buchannan) on your show just as Amy Goodman is a gatekeeper for the so-called left by giving the Democratic Party free reign on her show Democracy Now!

    Scott, you are beginning to look like a big fraud. Pat Buchannan should be billed as a Bush adn Cheney loving, pro-war extremist, which is what he truly is. Have him on your show if you must, but let your supporters and readers know what Pat Buchannan is and that is a rightgwing imperialist.

  2. Pat Buchannan,

    A vote for John Insane McCain is a vote for endless war and possibly nuclear war with Russia. But then again, you are a rightwing imperialist so why should anyone be surprised that you would support McCain. You did support Bush/Cheney in 2004 which makes you partially responsible for their crimes and their idiocy.

  3. Mr. Buchanan’s analysis is, of course, quite brilliant.

    But it should also be pointed out that it corresponds quite closely to Daniel 11:40; a perspective which, it seems, is being ignored by both the secular media as well as the Christian ‘Armageddon’ theologians.

    Specifically, both Georgia’s attack on South Ossetia and Russia’s retaliation fit quite nicely within the framework of the fractal Prophecies of Daniel 11:40-45; with Georgia being an iteration of the “king of the South” and Russia being an iteration of the “king of the North”.

    And, while the secular media is ignoring this because of their *insistence* that secular humanism *must* be the reigning paradigm for the accurate description of *all* reality; the Christian evangelists and ‘Armageddon’ theologians are ignoring this because it would throw a monkey wrench into the increasingly *bizarre* interpretations of those Prophecies which they sell for *money*.

    In any case, irrespective of the fact that the media does not consider this perspective to be *newsworthy*, this is merely the *beginning* of the iteration of those fractal Prophecies. The now more obvious than ever conflict between the “king of the South” and the “king of the North” will *continue* to iterate; ultimately resulting in the full-scale iteration of the Prophecy of Daniel 12:1…

    Even if the media chooses to IGNORE it.

    Michael Cecil

    http://after-the-false-peace.blogspot.com/

  4. Few good men in US media politics and Buchanan is one who was involved and had a shot at the white house hot seat.
    If there is a God and wanted good for USA Buchanan would’ve had his opportunity and set the world on the right path…
    It is so unfortunate that the majority of US public is more interested in gossip and Hollywood events than reality.
    US has shown the world that politics is an minimalistic jungle
    When you hear the occupiers of the white house reverberating that no country is supposed to invade or attack a sovereign state. look who’s talking…..
    One wonder if the media and public noticed what Bush Rice Bolton McCain are saying about Russia……….sound like Iraq is not on the map at all while Iran is attack is on the table.
    Incredible bunch….

  5. Reed,

    Before you go half-cocked with invictives, try reading the large collection of selections that Buchanan has written. He has been the most consistent critic of American empire since the end of the Cold War and left the GOP in 1999.

    Regardless of what you think of his philosophies of government, we who see war as destructive to our future and civilization have a responsibility to use sound thinking to influence our friends and neighbors. This is a cultural and political battle and we need to be part of the culture and politics to influence it. We don’t accomplish that by making ad homenin attacks against good thinkers who are giving us good points to win hearts and minds.

    We cannot be anti-war if we are making war with each other. Bury your prejudice learn what they man has actually written and said–including in this interview–and work to bring our government back into service to this country.

    Sincerely,
    Bob Strodtbeck

  6. The guy who wrote “A Republic, Not an Empire” and who’s argued against just about every war the US has been involved in, including the ‘good war’, WWII, is a pro-war extremist and an imperialist? Mm-kay.

    Also, it’s Buchanan, not Buchannan.

    Thanks for your participation.

    Scott, that was a really good interview again.

    Hopefully this stuff might start to sink in on the right…..you never know.

  7. http://NEOCONZIONISTTHREAT.COM

    Excellent Press TV interview with Paul Craig Roberts about neoconservatives

    http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=94112

    PNAC Neocon agenda wants a war with Russia for Israel

    http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=93770

  8. 13:45 to 14:20–Great Radio! Pat’s got a sense of humor.

  9. Probably the most interesting thing Buchanan had to say was something to the effect that “the American people are the *least* self-reflective people on the face of the earth”; later saying that Americans “have to learn to see ourselves the way *others* see us.”

    These are *psychological* rather than political quantities.

    What is so important about these statements is that the inability to self-reflect and the inability to see ourselves as others see us are CLASSICAL and CLINICAL symptoms of PSYCHOSIS.

    Literally.

    People who are psychotic are dealing with a very intense internal reality which, in fact, *consumes* self-reflection. Technically, they are *possessed* by that internal reality. And, because that reality is so hyper-*intense*, they obviously have no concern whatsoever of how they are perceived by others–other people being far down on the list of their priorities and not even ‘real’.

    And this is what comes to mind whenever I hear Condoleezza Rice describe the reality of what is going on; whether it is in Iraq, the Israel and Gaza or Lebanon, and now in Georgia. She does not see that other people look upon her as a fool. Even worse, she does not *care* that she looks like a fool. She is too IMMERSED in an internal reality which completely eclipses anything happening in the real world.

    Condoleezza Rice–a poster child for psychosis in government.

    But when you have a nation’s entire foreign policy being conveyed by a person who is CLINICALLY PSYCHOTIC (for example, there is still talk about Russian “aggression” toward Georgia–which is, quite simply, a delusion), it can only lead to psychotic eruptions of violence on a national and international scale; as was seen a couple of years ago with the Israel’s attack upon Lebanon; and will be seen AGAIN as the “king of the South” iterates its *next* attempt to “try conclusions” with the “king of the North” (Daniel 11:40).

    Michael Cecil

  10. Pat Buchanan has been consistent in his political views, and far advanced of media distortions on Iraq, Iran, Afghanstan, Georgia, and US policy. If he were President, America would not be in this disasterous shape she is in today.

  11. Russia has a flat tax of 13%. What is the tax rate in the USA?

  12. [...] Pat Buchanan, former speech writer of Richard Nixon and revisionist historian of the Second World War, makes relevant and interesting comments in his interview with Scott Horton on Antiwar.com. Similarly his article, “Blowback and Bear-Baiting” is worth a read. [...]

  13. Pat Buchanan is the only voice of sanity in an ocean of insanity coming from the present US. government. If only there were more people in the government like him and if the present loons would be given the boot, then there would be some chance that the USA would reemerge from its state of madness back into a civilized country.

  14. Michael Cecil Says: “…it should also be pointed out that it corresponds quite closely to Daniel 11:40; a perspective which, it seems, is being ignored by both the secular media as well as the Christian ‘Armageddon’ theologians.”

    Alan Watts: “The Bible is a dangerous book, though by no means an evil one. It depends, largely, on how you read it with what prejudices and with what intellectual background. Regarded as sacred and authoritative, such a complex collection of histories, legends, allegories and images becomes a monstrous Rorschach blot in which you can picture almost anything you want to discover just as one can see cities and mountains in the clouds or faces in the fire. Fundamentalists “prove” the truth of the Bible by trying to show how the words of the prophets have foretold events that have come to pass in relatively recent times. But any statistician knows that you can find correlations, if you want to, between almost any two sets of patterns or rhythms between the occurrence of sunspots and fluctuations of the stock market, between the lines and bumps on your hand and the course of your life or between the architecture of the Great Pyramid and the history of Europe.”
    http://www.katinkahesselink.net/other/alan-watts-bible.html

  15. Nathan Grant,

    Obviously, there is NO point in arguing the matter; this is something that I have been working on for more than 33 years.

    I just suggest that you keep your eyes open.

    *All* of the Christian theologians are simply WRONG in their interpretations of the Prophecies of Daniel.

    Reality speaks much more loudly than words.

    Words are ‘escapable.

    Reality is NOT.

    Stay tuned.

    Michael Cecil

  16. UK’s “The Economist” is reviving fond memories of the Hard, Cold War in its Leader, calling for exclusion of Russia from international clubs and letting Ukraine and Georgia into NATO. Maybe there is bad case of BSE in their editorial section. Check this:

    Russia has made perfunctory attempts to justify the invasion. It claimed that it was defending Russian citizens. This excuse, as Sweden’s foreign minister tartly noted, recalled Hitler’s justifications of Nazi invasions. Anyway, most of the “Russian citizens” in South Ossetia and Abkhazia had been handed their passports fairly recently, presumably in preparation for this foray.

    Similarly, Russian attempts to draw analogies with NATO’s bombing of Serbia in 1999 and its encouragement of Kosovo’s independence, or with the American-led invasion of Iraq, do not wash. The latest fighting in South Ossetia may have been triggered by the Georgians, but it was largely engineered by the Russians, who have, over the years, fanned the flames of the conflict. As for the Iraqi parallel, not even the Russians pretend that Mr Saakashvili has ever been a threat to his neighbours and to the world.

    http://www.economist.com/opinion/displayStory.cfm?source=hptextfeature&story_id=11920701

    Anyway, I hear that Germany’s Merkel has just said that Georgia can immediately accede to NATO if it wants. Does that mean the Germans veto is now gone? I would think she should start thinking maybe at least 1 step ahead.

    (And, Cecil you have spent 33 years overfitting a noisy signal? Jeeesus, man!)

  17. I think Pat is a con man. Maybe not in the exact way Reed says, but look at his speaking habits: On antiwar radio and in print, he takes anti-imperialism stances. On Hannity, Savage, Ingraham, and wherever else he shows up, what does he spout? Xenophobia about immigrants, both Hispanics in the USA and Muslims in Europe. Look at the brilliance of his Hannity appearance:
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,210010,00.html

    Hannity seems to know what Pat thinks of Iraq, but he didn’t let Pat on so he could discuss that…

  18. “I think Pat is a con man. Maybe not in the exact way Reed says, but look at his speaking habits: On antiwar radio and in print, he takes anti-imperialism stances. On Hannity, Savage, Ingraham, and wherever else he shows up, what does he spout? Xenophobia about immigrants, both Hispanics in the USA and Muslims in Europe. Look at the brilliance of his Hannity appearance:”

    Umm, why exactely are these mutually exclusive beliefs? If in fact they are, then perhaps you have an argument. But from what you’ve so far stated, your conclusion seems unwarranted and well…lame.

  19. “billed as a Bush adn Cheney loving, pro-war extremist”

    Umm, you really haven’t been paying attention, have you, nimreed. Did you even listen to the interview?

  20. [...] more on the conflict, I highly recommend this interview of Pat Buchanan (who is about as far from pro-Russian as anyone) by Scott Horton of [...]

  21. Ladies and gentlemen of AntiWar.com, fellow fans : you are welcome to leech off the prestige of Buchanan, but you must allow the rest of us to point out that this prestige derives from his white supremacist writings for the mass media.

    You might have the courage to say, “so what, white supremacism is OK by us,” but you won’t. You will try to have it both ways, because fundamentally you see no way to survive by being honest. Pity, that, really.

  22. His description of Haiti’s elected prime minister (now in African exile) as “that crazy priest we put in power” is crap.

  23. “Umm, why exactely are these mutually exclusive beliefs?”

    They aren’t…and that’s the problem. It kind of makes you wonder what the US army is gonna do exactly when President Buchanan brings ‘em all back from Afghanistan, Iraq, Germany, Japan, etc. I don’t think it’s going to be “Here’s your pension boys, go home.”

  24. Bob Strodtbeck, AnneS, Phonk,

    It’s people like you that explain why Pat Buchanan makes money hand over fist. Obviously, none of you have watched his appearances on the McLaughlin Group with John in which he is a strident support of Bush/Cheney in 2004. You suckers can believe anything you want. But if Pat Buchanan can say with a straight face on the merits that he voted for anyone other than Bush/Cheney in 2004 then I shall stand corrected. But if he says that he voted for Bush/Cheney in 2004 then he has no credibility. Pat Buchanan can stop me dead in my tracks if he comes out honestly and says that he voted for anyone other than Bush/Cheney. But he won’t do that because he knows that deep down inside, he sold out his country for Bush’s tax cut. Pat Buchanan and others on the right who claim they hated Bush’s foreign policy ended up voting for him because of his position on taxes.

    Bush’s tax cuts is what has garnered much of his support. Also, the money is now in bashing Bush/Cheney and that is exactly what Buchanan is doing. Follow the money trail people! You will be amazed at where it will lead…………..

  25. stats,

    and nimstats, you have never seen Buchanan on the McLaughlin Group in which is pro-Bush/Cheney all the way. But then again, when you only have one source for news, you tend to be Alice in Wonderland and believe everything that you hear………..

  26. andrew r,

    Pat Buchanan has gone on record and said the Bush/Cheney Republican/Democrat line about the Iraq war. He is John kerry and Barack Obama all rolled into one: We should not have invaded but we can’t leave because the house will come crashing down. Anyone who thinks that can’t be anti-imperialist. The Iraq war is purely an imperial war and if you are not for ending it then you must be for it.

    He is a con-man. He is for rightwing lunacy, only he has been able to walk the fence on both sides of the issue because people see what they wish to see and nothing else. You can’t claim you are against imperialism and then vote for the most imperial president in American History.

  27. thomas w mcguire:

    I disagree. Pat Buchanan, he of Richard Nixon fame? He would not change the imperial presidency. Not one bit. He believes we can’t leave Iraq because the house would come down. Would he abolish the CIA? I don’t think so. For Pat Buchanan or anyone else to be a good president, the following actions are required:

    1. End the Iraq War

    2. Abolish the CIA

    3. Bring all U.S. soldiers from overseas and liquidate the entire empire

    4. Abolish the World Trade Organization and revise U.S. trade policy. YES PROTECTIONISM!!

    5. Reform the tax code and abolish the income tax for active duty military and for those who make less than 30,000 a year

    6. Make True immigration reform and make immigration policy based on the true needs of America and its citizens. Deport illegal aliens and make employing them illlegal with stiff fines and jail time for those who break those laws

    7. Stop trying to enforce the Bible and organized religion on all Americans

    8. Make college affordable for all who desire to attend putting emphasis on math and science

    9. Abolish the federal reserve and go back to a gold standard for sound monetary and fiscal policy

    10. Jail so-called white-collar criminals for 40 and 50 years at a time and confiscate all wealth and you can put an end to the Marth Stewarts, Ken Lays, Ron Skillings, and Bernie Ebbers of the world.

  28. Scott Horton,

    Afraid of the truth? I’m not. I will follow it wherever it leads, right or wrong. You can put a stake in the heart of this vampire one way or the other and ask Pat Buchanan “THE QUESTION” for which I don’t think you have the courage to ask:

    Pat Buchanan, who did you vote for in the 2004 Presidential Election?

  29. Buchanan has a disconnected heart and mind. His mind and writings are anti-imperialism and anti-war but his heart keeps promoting and shilling for politicians who advocate further wars and imperialism.

  30. I still consider myself ‘liberal’ in some sense (e.g. UHC), but I think that this website, along with certain old-style conservatives like Pat Buchanan and Paul Craig Roberts are superb when it comes to foreign policy. And even on economics, I listen respectfully to what the libertarians and paleoconservatives say, since much of it is in fact true. It is the establishment (i.e. the corrupt money-bought Republicrats) who are the danger. I have no patience for foolish so-called liberals who trash Buchanan based on simplistic and ill-informed views. Buchanan not only has the right ideas on foreign policy, but he is also exceedingly well informed. And foreign policy is by far the most important issue, since it gets a whole lot of people killed. Shut up, idiot liberals!

  31. Pat Buchanan, great on foreing policy, couldn’t be worse on domestic policy.

  32. INTERNATIONAL / EUROPE | August 14, 2008
    Conflict Narrows Oil Options for West
    By JAD MOUAWAD
    Energy experts say that the hostilities between Russia and Georgia could
    threaten American plans to gain access to more of Central Asia’s energy
    resources.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/14/world/europe/14oil.html?ex=1219377600&en=9d74f503108c11ed&ei=5070&emc=eta1

    Scott Horton will not interview Paul Craig Roberts (you ask him why) and others at AW.com think that Roberts does not know anything about economics. I sometimes wonder why they publish his articles in the first place???

    Buchanan plays the field for what it’s worth, he knows what sells and that is how he makes his living.

    Things that they aren’t telling you:

    Major Oil Pipeline Sabotaged:
    Here is what it is all about – OIL. No surprise. ExxonMobil, Chevron etc. spent
    $4 billion to build this pipe line (the BTC) in the ’90′s with $$$ from those
    nice tax breaks no doubt. It brings Baku oil via Tblisi through Turkey to the
    Med – 850,000 bbls a day for the US and Britain. But it has now been sabotaged !
    Bombed by the Russians?

    Are oil and gold going up because of the weak dollar and storms or are the Russians sending Bush a message in Georgia? Read Zbigniew Brezinski’s book, The Grand Chessboard. The basic premise of the book is that the West (US) must dominate Eurasia and control its natural resources, exactly the path that Bush & Co. have taken us on.

    That path will lead to a world war…

  33. Benjamin,

    You could not be more wrong. 8Ball has it correct, Bush’s foreign policy is a disaster and Pat Buchanan is part of it. He supported and voted for Bush/Cheney in 2004 and is therefore part of the problem. He sold out for a tax cut and that is the root of it all. So-called realists of the right who complain about foreign policy but then vote for the same lunatics who brought them this foreign policy for a cut in taxes, are the ultimate traitors. Get a clue, or button it up!!

  34. Hi Reed. All I can say is that I like Pat’s columns on this website. And Paul Craig Roberts, and Raimondo, and many others. These columns stand by themselves, even if Pat voted for Bush. Besides, do you think the Democrats really give us less war? That’s one of the big myths of our times. Why Obama wants to extend war to Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, whatever makes the CFR and AIPAC happy. And that after fooling us with an antiwar image during the primaries. No way I’m voting for con-artist Obama, even if that helps McCain, who I agree is even worse. I just can’t stand being deceived. (I liked Obama at first.)

  35. 8Ball, Paul Craig Roberts is against outsourcing, i.e throwing America’s workers overboard so they must compete with dollar-a-day labor. Some call that ‘protectionism’, which may offend libertarian sensibilities, but I don’t think that’s why Horton won’t interview him, since Pat says the same thing! Perhaps Roberts has some kind of contract with CounterPunch, another great website!!! You should have been at the recent libertarian conference in Reston, VA. Legendary lefty Alex Cockburn was quite a hit, in my opinion. And he did lay out a huge and important area of overlap between the (true) left and the libertarians: both are anti war and pro civil liberties. We need allies wherever we can get them to have a snowball’s chance in hell of rolling back the military machine, and if Pat writes some good articles along these lines, that’s enough for me, no matter who he votes for. Also, he acts mature on the McLaughlin group, which isn’t necessarily true of the other loudmouths. I like him.

  36. Ben, I like and admire PCR. SH will not interview him because he thinks that he is intransigent… or “uncompromising”. I once commented favorably on one of Roberts’ articles that adressed the state of the US economy and one of the AW shadow writers (Sapienza or Gregory) wrote and said that PCR did not know diddly about economics. I think that he understands economics a lot better than the beggars at AW…

  37. SH will not interview him because he thinks that he is intransigent… or “uncompromising”.

    those are nice quote marks, where did you get them?

  38. Benjamin,

    I never said that Democrats give less war, they are just as bad as the Republicans. However, comma, the issue here is Bush’s foreign policy since it is he who is in the President’s chair and not Obama or any other Democrat. If you want to talk about how bad the Dems are, we can. But since Pat Buchanan is critquing Bush, then he is the subject. And since that is the case all I say is that you can’t claim to be an anti-imperalist and then support and vote for the most imperial President in American history. I’m all for disclosure and an honest airing of the facts. I am also tired of a fraud like Pat Buchanan running around telling different audiences what they want to hear cashing in big time and suckers and gatekeepers like Scott Horton of Anti-War.Com allowing it to happen. If he wants to have Buchanan on that’s fine but he should tell his readers and supporters what they are getting in return. Full disclosure and an honest airing of the facts at hand.

  39. Benjamin,

    It seems that Obama will march the same route as McCain to nuclear war with Russia but at a slightly slower pace………….

  40. Reed, This conversation is kind of interesting, but I’ll finish with this last comment. I don’t think Pat is insincere. You can criticize his vote, but I don’t think he is insincere in his articles. I’m reading Raimondo’s book ‘Reclaiming the American Right’, and there is indeed a tradition of social conservatives who are also non-interventionist. Now Buchanan was a Cold Warrior, but so was my hero Chalmers Johnson. Stalin was a serious threat at some point, though Hiroshima wasn’t exactly a ‘confidence building measure’.

    Now it seems Scott Horton himself is checking in. Hi Scott! I like your show. But where can I find a picture of you? Google just won’t turn one up. And I wonder what older conservatives like Pat think of your intro music. :-)

  41. Pat Buchanan suppoted and worked for two Fascist American Presidents—Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. Enough said.

    Anyone here on antiwar.com whether those who write here, speak on the radio program and are right-wing sycophants that supported Nixon and Reagan are morally empty. Reagan was a Nazi and Fascist and helped to gut the middle class out of America with his Milton Friedman economic policies. Reagan never met a dictator he did not like or support for the sake of the American Fascist empire. Thanks to Nixon and then Reagan the stage was set for the surveillance state we now have under the Fascist Bush-Cheney administration. Nixon wanted a bigger domestic police state and Reagan even more so.

    Pat Buchanan sucked up to both Nixon and Reagan and was part of the “Silent Majority” strategy. Buchanan is a divider of America as much as Bush and Cheney are today.

    Buchanan is getting very senile and I am tired of his racist beliefs and homophobic attitudes. Buchanan was a big supporter of Pinochet in Chile too. Buchanan and others, including Paul Craig Roberts, Chalmers Johnson, and Ray McGovern have no room to talk.

    Its easy being “brave” when you are no longer able to change the calculus inside the government. All these loud mouths who appear on antiwar.com radio DID NOTHING when they held government jobs to change the awful course America was headed. It is easy to criticize when these former CIA agents are getting pensions from the government biut went along with American empire when they held jobs.

    Pat Buchanan is a double-talker. Both Nixon and Reagan were working on behalf of the big corporations who underwrite the U.S. empire, and Buchanan was a good cheerleader for both of these men he sucked up to. I am sure Buchanan felt the fire in his ass every time he was alone with Nixon and Reagan, but had no clue what was going on other than the smile on his face when he wrote those fine speeches that stroked the white man’s ego in more than one place.

  42. Okay, all of sudden Buchanan opposes war. B.S.

    What was Buchanan doing when he worked for Nixon and Reagan other than promoting more war and more conflicts for the United States?

    Buchanan is a double-talker and his hypocrisy is sickening. Buchanan will be voting for that other war crazy John McCain on election day just like he supported Bush and Cheney in the past two elections.

    Doesn’t Buchanan know by now that the neocons he “claims to loathe” are attached at the hip in the Bush administration and will be joined inside McCain’s ass and brain if he is elected? Pat Buchanan will be out there trashing Obama as he supports McCain and those “awful war party neocon nuts” that antiwar.com has put up on its main page for its money drive.

    Antiwar.com is totally wrong to accuse the Democratic Party as equal to the war party of the GOP which tolerates and accepts the policy making dictates of the neocons and that Republican candidates have to bend over for the likes of war crazy preacher John Hagee.

    Reverened Jeremiah Wright was so “threatening” because he spoke the truth about the evils of America’s empire and years of racism, and the right-wing hates the truth when a person like Rev Wright says stuff yet allows the hateful pro-war talk of Pat Robertson, Rod Parsley, and Franklin Graham go as if everyone “likes those wackos.”

    Jeremiah Wright’s only mistake was standing up for the Palestinians and that was his kiss of death inside the media. Anyone who stands up for the Palestinians is never going to last long in the media these days. Actually Wright was correct about AIDS being developed as a biowarfare measure and there is loads of evidence that Buchanan’s buddy Reagan and the CIA deliberately placed crack cocaine in the slums of the major cities to build up the private prison industrial complex of mostly black males after the Congress passed such harsh penal measures.

  43. Okay, all of sudden Buchanan opposes war. B.S.

    What was Buchanan doing when he worked for Nixon and Reagan other than promoting more war and more conflicts for the United States?

    Buchanan is a double-talker and his hypocrisy is sickening. Buchanan will be voting for that other war crazy John McCain on election day just like he supported Bush and Cheney in the past two elections.

    Doesn’t Buchanan know by now that the neocons he “claims to loathe” are attached at the hip in the Bush administration and will be joined inside McCain’s ass and brain if he is elected? Pat Buchanan will be out there trashing Obama as he supports McCain and those “awful war party neocon nuts” that antiwar.com has put up on its main page for its money drive.

    Antiwar.com is totally wrong to accuse the Democratic Party as equal to the war party of the GOP which tolerates and accepts the policy making dictates of the neocons and that Republican candidates have to bend over for the likes of war crazy preacher John Hagee.

    Reverened Jeremiah Wright was so “threatening” because he spoke the truth about the evils of America’s empire and years of racism, and the right-wing hates the truth when a person like Rev Wright says stuff yet allows the hateful pro-war talk of Pat Robertson, Rod Parsley, and Franklin Graham go as if everyone “likes those wackos.”

    Jeremiah Wright’s only mistake was standing up for the Palestinians and that was his kiss of death inside the media. Anyone who stands up for the Palestinians is never going to last long in the media these days. Actually Wright was correct about AIDS being developed as a biowarfare measure and there is loads of evidence that Buchanan’s buddy Reagan and the CIA deliberately placed crack cocaine in the slums of the major cities to build up the private prison industrial complex of mostly black males after the Congress passed such harsh penal measures.

  44. For all the bitching here on antiwar.com, I bet dollars to donuts that most people who write and get on the radio program will be voting for John McCain and the war party of the GOP pver Barack Obama.

    Yes, by the way, Barack Obama is a batter candidate than McCain. Lots better. Perfect, no, but go ahead and vote for McCain, but if you people here on antiwar.com do vote for McCain–hence the neocons, then you ,ay as well SHUT UP after that too, because at that point your rhetoric will be just empty as your actions.

    These neocons are all in McCain’s camp yet you morons who write and speak out on antiwar.com and its radio show act like there is “no difference” between Obama and McCain when there is. Obama has to fight off the same jerks in the media who demonized his preacher, Rev. Wright, yet you “brainiacs” cannot actually see this capitalistic-oriented reality. Wake up.

    Buchanan is a double-talker too. I hope Pat can wake for once in his adult life and actually see that its the GOP causing all the problems America is in right now across the globe.

  45. For all the bitching here on antiwar.com, I bet dollars to donuts that most people who write and get on the radio program will be voting for John McCain and the war party of the GOP pver Barack Obama.

    Yes, by the way, Barack Obama is a batter candidate than McCain. Lots better. Perfect, no, but go ahead and vote for McCain, but if you people here on antiwar.com do vote for McCain–hence the neocons, then you ,ay as well SHUT UP after that too, because at that point your rhetoric will be just empty as your actions.

    These neocons are all in McCain’s camp yet you morons who write and speak out on antiwar.com and its radio show act like there is “no difference” between Obama and McCain when there is. Obama has to fight off the same jerks in the media who demonized his preacher, Rev. Wright, yet you “brainiacs” cannot actually see this capitalistic-oriented reality. Wake up.

    Buchanan is a double-talker too. I hope Pat can wake for once in his adult life and actually see that its the GOP causing all the problems America is in right now across the globe.

  46. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucEYLdHEI3I&feature=related

    here my votes

  47. oh well

  48. Oscar, if you didn’t say the same things five times, I’d think you were joking.

  49. Oscar,

    99 percent correct. You are wrong if you think the Democrats are not just as complicit as the GOP because they are. Voters gave the Democrats control of both houses of Congress in 2006 and to this point Senator Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have done zero, I mean zero to end this destructive war. Correct on Bush, the GOP, and rightwingers who will vote for McCain to get a cut in taxes, but wrong on the Democrats. They are actually worse than the GOP. At least the GOP has the courage to tell you full speed ahead, war, war, and nothing but war. But the Democrats trick you into thinking that they are anti-war when they are anything but. The only difference (if you can call it that) between John Insane McCain and Barack Obama is about 10 miles per hour…………………

  50. Scott Horton,

    No, Oscar is not joking, but you might as well be. Put the screws to Buchanan and get the truth out of him about supporting Bush/Cheney in 2004.

  51. I guess you “brainiacs” here really “know” how the Senate works. You morons in here cannot be serious saying that the Democrats “control the U.S. Senate.” You need 60 Votes in the Senate to do anything. The Republicans have been filibustering like mad in the U.S. Senate not to mention that Joe Lieberman is sucking GOP ass there. DSo, don’t tell me or lie to yourselves that the Democats have an “actual majority.”

    As far as the House pf Representatives goes, Nancy Pelosi has to deal with those Blue Dog Democrats from the South who are nothing but DINOs and in reality really Republicans. The country has moved to far to the right that most of the Democrats are conservatives now. The GOP is so extreme that the Democrats who win now just reject the John Hagee and neocon crowd of the GOP like former Republican James Webb of Virginia. Newt Gingrich actally likes the conservatism of the Blue Dog Democrats like Heath Shuler.

    So, if you idiots and idiots you are actually think the Democrats have an “actual majority” then you are wrong. The only reason Democrats won in those GOP districts was that they were speaking the same line on supporting Bush’s war.

    True liberals do not support the war in Iraq or the police state in the United States like you Republicans do. You Libertarians support McCain, and thus in doing so, Joe Lieberman.

    Joe Lieberman would not have beaten Lowell Weicker in the first place without the help of the late William F. Buckley and BUckpac. Lieberman won the general election because you filthy Repukes supported and voted him into office in Connecticut.

    You Republicans are the War Party. Face facts—its you right wing conservative nationalists who support war and who have pushed the country so far to the right that the only way Dems can win in the south is by speaking the language of war like you right wing Repukes and Pat Buchanan.

    As for my multiple posts—-I something is wrong with the submit comment button. I never intended to double-post anything.

  52. Oscar,

    Wrong again. You have been reading too many Democratic talking points. Ending this war simply means not allowing a funding bill to come to the floor of either the House or the Senate. You can’t filibuster what does not come up for a vote. All the Democrats have to do is not allow a war funding bill in either house come to the floor and the President will BE FORCED TO WITHDRAW TROOPS FROM IRAQ, PERIOD. If you knew anything about how the House and Senate worked you would know that.

    Don’t be fooled so easily. Believing in the Democrats is tantamount to running to the nearest cliff and jumping off, simply because eventually they, like the GOP will lead you there…………..

  53. Very good analysis, Pat. But I hope that you will forthrightly oppose McCain as we approach November. No more double-mindedness.

  54. Rodrigo,

    Don’t be taken in by the Clown Prince of Con-men. Pat Buchanan will not oppose John McCain but instead actively support him because McCain now believes in Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthiest of the wealthy. It does not matter of John Insane McCain’s foreign policy puts us on the path to war against Russia, Pat Buchanan will support and vote for him anyway.

    And that weasel Scott Horton will continue to allow Buchanan to get away with this easy to see through charade………………….

  55. [...] Pat Buchanan on Antiwar.com Radio, Aug. 16, 2008. He discusses the Georgian government’s aggression and the larger picture of hostile NATO encirclement of Russia. [...]

  56. [...] usually in huge shoutfests with each other but this time find common cause: // Also see Pat recently on Antiwar Radio.  And check out Pat’s ingenious book on how World War II was an unnecessary war.  As much [...]

  57. Truth about Georgia vs. Russia, and Abu Hatem,

    Pat Buchanan is faking any real anti-war sentiment because he is in this for the money, period. It boggles the mind how easy it is to fool so many people these days. Pat Buchanan of Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon fame? This Pat Buchanan you people seriously think is anti-war? Get real and get serious. Anyone (Buchanan) who supports Bush/Cheney is about as anti-war as Sylvester the Cat is Anti-Tweety Bird eating……………..

  58. I don’t really have a problem with Buchanan. He’s intelligent, knows his history, and his recent views are in step with much of what he’s been saying for 30 years. However, he does have the propensity to scale back or readjust his rhetoric depending on the audience. He’s not perfect, not many men or women have ever displayed the consistency that Dr. Paul has. Which leads me to my point, it’s a shame that in order to protect his career and credibility that he didn’t sound the Ron Paul horn from the roof tops. He’s had the pulpit on MSNBC, CNN, etc….he had a lot of people’s ears during the run-up to the primaries and he chose career preservation above all else. If he is true to what he says, then Ron Paul would have represented the candidate of a lifetime in his eyes, so where was his unmitigated support? It’s a bit of a shame, such an opportunity.

  59. You're an Idiot. Buchanan is antiwar you dolt.

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