Scott Horton Interviews Daniel Levy

Scott Horton, August 23, 2008

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Daniel Levy, senior fellow and director of the Middle East Initiative at the New America Foundation, discusses the need for Israel to adopt a diplomatic foreign policy, prominent Israeli officials opposed to attacking Iran, the remaining danger of an Israeli attack, how hard-line rhetoric empowers Iran’s hawks in return, the disastrous effects any attack on Iran would have, the process for the upcoming Israeli election, the consequences of conflating all of Israel and America’s enemies and the new liberal U.S.-Israeli lobbying organization J-Street.

MP3 here. (28:48)

Daniel Levy is a senior fellow and director of the Middle East Initiative at the New America Foundation and was a negotiator in the Rabin and Barak governments in Israel.

21 Responses to “Daniel Levy”

  1. Everybody please Email Senators asking them to vote No to SR 580 and to Representatives asking them to vote No to HR 362 because they are virtually a Declaration of War as Congressman Ron Paul stated.

  2. I am convinced that for Americans to continue to debate the question of “what’s best for Israel” as a central policy issue for our country will only perpetuate the underlying problem.

    I’m glad that there are voices within the pro-Israel community which dissent from the Likudnik line which dominates the lobby, but I’m really sick of everything having to be about Israel in American foreign policy.

    Real relief will not come from America merely adopting a new set of pro-Israel priorities as the centerpiece of our foreign policy. We need to take a radical leap out of this paradigm altogether. We need a divorce, not marriage counseling.

  3. if you want a solution to israel palistine read the new egyptian plan i think it will either be a step in the right direction or pretext for israel to go to war

  4. Israel is the reason I am not voting for or donating to either party in the presidential election. Every time I get a fund raising letter I send it back with that message.

    I am sick of Israel, sick of the zionist/jewish suporters of Israel , sick of our US politicans who work for Israel.

    Every time I heard one of the presidential candidates swear loyalty to Israel in their debates I wanted to go up on the stage and slap hell out of them.

    What the hell?…the test of a US President is how much he will do for the FOREIGN country… of Israel?

    THIS is America, this isn’t Israel. And if this insane foreign country fetish in our government is an example of the US jewish community they need to get out of this country and go to Israel.

  5. “And if this insane foreign country fetish in our government is an example of the US jewish community they need to get out of this country and go to Israel.”

    It’s not, and they don’t.

  6. Not all Zionists are Jews, and not all Jews are Zionists.

  7. Speaking from personal conversations I’m not so sure about that Horton..and frankly I don’t think you are either but given the explosive potential of this subject I don’t blame you for wearing high heels and stomping your feet..

  8. “And if this insane foreign country fetish in our government is an example of the US jewish community they need to get out of this country and go to Israel.”

    Right on Amerikan! And after we get rid of the yid, lets get all those tortilla eating mexicanos outta here, and have them take all them watermelon eating Negroes on their way across the border. Oh and don’t forget that we gotta put all them chinamen on a slow boat back to their polluted country so that they take more jobs away from us real Americans. And as a personal favor to me, please make all these Homos get the hell out of our country and commit their sins in godless countries like France. Praise Jesus for men like you. But don’t forget to stick a nail in the back of that dirty little yid commie.

  9. Everyone is an individual Bill – whether the subject is foreign policy or anything else.

    If you are so determined to be a collectivist about it, you could do a simple Google search and discover that American Jews are more opposed to America’s Likud-influenced foreign policy (on Iraq and Iran for example) than any other ethnic or religious “group.”

    For Christ’s sake, as though you can decide what what millions of people believe based on some anecdotes. Get a grip pal. If you’re going to spend all your time scribbling all over my blog at least do the slightest bit of research before you go off smearing people based on what you pretend to know. I’m sick of having to waste my time correcting you.

  10. Bill – Clearly Scott Horton(berg) has been gotten to by ZOG. He’s probably a card carrying member of Hadassah for Chrissakes. Ignore his attempts to silence a true patriot like yourself. You continue to blame the Jews for this and that, and know that I’ve got your back my brother. Screw reality. It’s blamin’ time!

  11. Scott, it’s obvious that substantial numbers of Jews disagree very much with the policy program of the American Likudnik Israel lobby honchos.

    But I do think that even many “liberal” or “antiwar” Jews aid and abet Israel in its unhealthy domination of US politics, because they take a “don’t bad-mouth my family” defensive posture towards non-Jews who are irreverantly critical or even justifiably hostile toward the state of Israel.

    You have a teeny bit of cover since you happen to have a great aunt or something who was Jewish, but many of the rest of us are supposed to shut up, or completely defang any criticism, so that it does not truly reflect our justified outrage, because it’s too “dangerous” to speak frankly about what the passionate attachment to Israel is doing to America.

    I’m really tired of being shut out and shut up by Jews who treat me as though I’m inappropriately butting in on a private family matter when I speak my mind on this topic, which is so central to the dire predicament in which America finds itself these days. I’m sick of being told, in effect, to “let the grownups handle this”. I’ve encountered this attitude so much that it has, frankly, started to have a negative impact on my perception of Jews and Jewish culture. But I try to fight that; and besides, it’s really not my fault, dammit. I refuse to accept, with cheerful good will, being smeared and belittled for speaking the truth and trying to stop really bad people from doing terrible things to my country.

  12. 9/11 sure was beneficial to the agenda of the Israeli hardliners. Awfully convenient.

  13. God I am so sick of you 9/11 kooks. You add absolutely nothing to anything.

  14. Anecdotes? Yeah, right…IF the Republicans had nominated Patrick J. Buchanan in ’96 or ’00 it would have made your establishment-fearing head spin to see how fast the Don Feders and the Mona Charens of the GOP would have run for the exits…And that’s a damn fact and you damn well know it! Which, by the way, was the main reason Bauer and Keyes were there…I’m so sick of people like you who are too cowardly to acknowledge the obvious..

  15. I am sorry that Scott Horton thinks that I am a kook, and do want to point out that most American Jews are complicit with the actions of Israel and its American lobby. It is not just the Likud Party and I invite Horton to read books on this point written by James Petras, THE POWER OF ISRAEL IN THE UNITED STATES, and ZIONISM, MILITARISM, AND THE DECLINE OF THE POWER OF THE UNITED STATES, and to view the video, MISSING LINKS, found at 911missinglinks.com. Good day.

  16. “most American Jews are complicit with the actions of Israel”

    Are we using the Rumsfeld standard of “complicity” here? Whatever do you mean? Most Americans in general support the idea of American support for Israel. But American Jews who agree with them are “complicit”?

    You refer me toward a couple thousand pages, but don’t even attempt to explain what accusation you’re making or what it is I am supposed to discover in these books you cite.

    I am also anti-neocon and anti-neo-liberal and I appreciate some of the things you’ve had to say on this blog, but I’m going to have to insist that you elaborate on your sweeping denunciation of millions of Americans here or take it back.

  17. Ah Horton, you’re a meathead. Don’t you know that the world is too complex to explain. Just know that the White Man is the only decent hard working moral son of a gun out there and that all these Jews and A-rabs are stealing our damn money at the pump and then again at the Bank. There is plenty of of evidence on blogs, discussion forums, and websites that Jews are evil, blacks are dumb, mexicans are smelly, and chinks are wily. Don’t give me any of your mamby pamby liberal horse pittuty trying to make me think otherwise.

    EDITH!!! Where is my beer!!

  18. Scott, I really appreciate your sticking your neck out to discuss important issues that others won’t discuss. That’s why I’m extremely disappointed to read your comment above that “God I am so sick of you 9/11 kooks. You add absolutely nothing to anything.” I actually had to re-read your name on the comment because I couldn’t believe that you would make such a sweeping, empty statement. While I’m sure you’ve been badgered by the rather annoying segment of the 9/11 Truth movement to the point of exhaustion, I’d ask you to put aside your dislike them for a moment and consider one aspect that I can’t seem to get a decent rebuttal on from anyone who bashes 9/11 Truth: That is the five dancing Israelis. (all quotes, except where noted, are from the Sunday Herald article found here: http://web.archive.org/web/20031202162323/http://www.sundayherald.com/37707).

    “As the World Trade Centre burned and crumpled, five men celebrated
    and filmed the worst atrocity ever committed on American soil as it
    played out before their eyes…They were Israelis – and at least two
    of them were Israeli intelligence agents, working for Mossad.”

    While officially they were released because “they did not know
    anything about 9/11,” I think that statement is a little hard to
    swallow. Are we to believe that they saw the first plane and decided
    to film themselves celebrating what most people initially thought was
    an accident? And why would one of them tell an Israeli journalist that
    “Our purpose was to document the event”? One does does not generally
    have a purpose to document a surprise. Indeed, it seems like
    rationality has to fall on the side of disbelief in the coincidence
    theory. Fortunately, other evidence seems to clarify the situation (a bit):

    “One highly placed investigator told Carl Cameron of Fox News that
    there were “tie-ins” between the Israelis and September 11; the hint
    was clearly that they’d gathered intelligence on the planned attacks
    but kept it to themselves.”

    And:

    “Mossad agents were spying on Mohammed Atta and Marwan al-Shehi, two
    of leaders of the 9/11 hijack teams. The pair had settled in
    Hollywood, Florida, along with three other hijackers, after leaving
    Hamburg – where another Mossad team was operating close by.”

    However, contrary to Carl Cameron’s source, as reported in Der
    Spiegel, the Israeli spy ring “provided a list [to the CIA] including
    the names of at least four out of the 19 hijackers of Sept. 11.”
    (http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,216421,00.html)

    Whether the CIA was informed or not, we’re to believe that while
    Mossad was tailing several of the hijackers prior to 9/11 (living on the same block in a town of 20,000 in the case of Atta), that on 9/11, the Mossad agents caught filming the attacks had just happened upon them? Again, that strains credulity. Rather, the information that is publicly available leads to only three rational conclusions:

    1. Israel knew about the attacks, but didn’t tell us everything they knew.
    2. Israel told us everything, but even with the location, date and the
    names of the hijackers, our intelligence agencies were just too
    incompetent to prevent the attacks.
    3. Israel told us everything, but elements within the government
    purposely allowed the attacks to go forth.

    What other interpretation of these facts do you have? Even if you
    support the second interpretation, you should be outraged that no one
    lost their job over the failure. At the very least, you shouldn’t
    ridicule others who want accountability.

  19. “While I’m sure you’ve been badgered by the rather annoying segment of the 9/11 Truth movement to the point of exhaustion,”

    Yes…

    “I’d ask you to put aside your dislike them for a moment”

    Impossible.

    Oh and yeah. I’ve covered that:

    http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/02/22/christopher-ketcham/

    http://antiwar.com/radio/2008/06/12/philip-giraldi-11/

    Here’s my blurb for 9/11 Press for Truth:

    http://www.911pressfortruth.com/#

    And oh yeah, Here’s Antiwar.com’s Israeli Art Students file:

    http://www.antiwar.com/israeli-files.php

    Sorry for all the gatekeeping.

  20. I didn’t call you a gatekeeper. I’m new to your show—partly out of my own frustration with the “Bush did it” crowd who keep repeating long-debunked myths, and who use lazy terms like “gatekeeper” to explain a variety of personalities and motives for people who don’t write or say what they think is fact.

    Anyway, thanks for the links and keep up the good work.

  21. Heh. Yeah, sorry about that. As you could tell right away, they’ve gotten to me too.

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