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		<title>By: MCayrow</title>
		<link>http://antiwar.com/radio/2008/09/29/ken-menkhaus/comment-page-1/#comment-2854</link>
		<dc:creator>MCayrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep!</description>
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		<title>By: xiis</title>
		<link>http://antiwar.com/radio/2008/09/29/ken-menkhaus/comment-page-1/#comment-2829</link>
		<dc:creator>xiis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mcayrow,

You seem to have good intentions so I will give u the benefit of the doubt.  However, u shouldnt make excuses for filthy war criminals like morgan and turki.  Thats all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mcayrow,</p>
<p>You seem to have good intentions so I will give u the benefit of the doubt.  However, u shouldnt make excuses for filthy war criminals like morgan and turki.  Thats all.</p>
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		<title>By: MCayrow</title>
		<link>http://antiwar.com/radio/2008/09/29/ken-menkhaus/comment-page-1/#comment-2824</link>
		<dc:creator>MCayrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Xiis,

First, sorry if I somehow or someway offended you, I swear to Allah that was not my intentions.  Moreover, as I said before, I will be happy and support whatever decision comes from Somaliland – and, even though I know I could get some anger from some of my brothers/sisters from the south – nevertheless, I decided to do that (and I am proud of it) just to protect Somali Landers’ right to decide whatever they wanted.

Furthermore, if Somali Landers settled-down their differences better than we southern Somalis did, I do not think it is a bad thing – actually, it is a blessing, and for whatever is worth – on behalf of southern Somalis, I will thank you for hosting our brothers/sisters after the filthy Ethiopian army’s invasion. 

OTOH, before such thing as Somaliland or Somalia south existed, we were all Somalis –and, there were days that we Somalis were united on one common goal – to kick the colonialists’ a** out of Somalia, our great grandparents and grandparents sacrificed their precious lives to achieve that.  Please, let us not forget that and make their death in vain.

Furthermore, the colonialists knew that they will be the ones who was going to have the last laugh at the end, even if our grandparents finally managed to kick their a**es in the twentieth century.  The fictitious borders that they imposed on us before they left were specifically designed for this very purpose.  Every time that we argue on, let alone when we take guns against each other to enforce these borders, (which, btw, were sketched on the sand at the beginning) its architects’ laugh on us from their graves – is that for what our grandparents really died?  I do not think so!   

As far as us southern Somalis attacking Somaliland or Somaliland’s army defending the land concerned, for the record, I am against any type of violence regardless who is doing it, on whom he is doing it, and/or why he is doing it.  I also think violence creates only more violence – which then creates more violence – a violence that only makes wealthier those who put us in these mess in the first place – our real enemies.  In addition, I believe that being against wars is not enough at all – unless we first believe in and promote peace among us.

As far as our discussion is being over concerned, it is fine with me – even though I still think that what was going on between you and I was something really good – and worthy of the efforts we put it in.  Nevertheless, know this; if you change your mind, I will be more than happy to continue our discussion. If not, best wishes to you, bro!

As far as Somali script concerned, I was referring only to MR. Barre’s action, and not the guy who came-up with it – but hey thanks; I learned something from you! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Xiis,</p>
<p>First, sorry if I somehow or someway offended you, I swear to Allah that was not my intentions.  Moreover, as I said before, I will be happy and support whatever decision comes from Somaliland – and, even though I know I could get some anger from some of my brothers/sisters from the south – nevertheless, I decided to do that (and I am proud of it) just to protect Somali Landers’ right to decide whatever they wanted.</p>
<p>Furthermore, if Somali Landers settled-down their differences better than we southern Somalis did, I do not think it is a bad thing – actually, it is a blessing, and for whatever is worth – on behalf of southern Somalis, I will thank you for hosting our brothers/sisters after the filthy Ethiopian army’s invasion. </p>
<p>OTOH, before such thing as Somaliland or Somalia south existed, we were all Somalis –and, there were days that we Somalis were united on one common goal – to kick the colonialists’ a** out of Somalia, our great grandparents and grandparents sacrificed their precious lives to achieve that.  Please, let us not forget that and make their death in vain.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the colonialists knew that they will be the ones who was going to have the last laugh at the end, even if our grandparents finally managed to kick their a**es in the twentieth century.  The fictitious borders that they imposed on us before they left were specifically designed for this very purpose.  Every time that we argue on, let alone when we take guns against each other to enforce these borders, (which, btw, were sketched on the sand at the beginning) its architects’ laugh on us from their graves – is that for what our grandparents really died?  I do not think so!   </p>
<p>As far as us southern Somalis attacking Somaliland or Somaliland’s army defending the land concerned, for the record, I am against any type of violence regardless who is doing it, on whom he is doing it, and/or why he is doing it.  I also think violence creates only more violence – which then creates more violence – a violence that only makes wealthier those who put us in these mess in the first place – our real enemies.  In addition, I believe that being against wars is not enough at all – unless we first believe in and promote peace among us.</p>
<p>As far as our discussion is being over concerned, it is fine with me – even though I still think that what was going on between you and I was something really good – and worthy of the efforts we put it in.  Nevertheless, know this; if you change your mind, I will be more than happy to continue our discussion. If not, best wishes to you, bro!</p>
<p>As far as Somali script concerned, I was referring only to MR. Barre’s action, and not the guy who came-up with it – but hey thanks; I learned something from you! </p>
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		<title>By: xiis</title>
		<link>http://antiwar.com/radio/2008/09/29/ken-menkhaus/comment-page-1/#comment-2811</link>
		<dc:creator>xiis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for u this might be abstract but this is deadly serious for me because my own family was killed by turki`s unit in 1988.  so don`t u ever ask me to forgive a killer like that.. if that is your somalism then count me out i dont anything to do with it.  aniga iyo turki iyo faqashtiisa rasaas baa naga dhexeeysa nothing else</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for u this might be abstract but this is deadly serious for me because my own family was killed by turki`s unit in 1988.  so don`t u ever ask me to forgive a killer like that.. if that is your somalism then count me out i dont anything to do with it.  aniga iyo turki iyo faqashtiisa rasaas baa naga dhexeeysa nothing else</p>
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		<title>By: xiis</title>
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		<dc:creator>xiis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://somaliland1991.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/somaliland-genocide-raids-1988/

this is to jog your memory mcayrow... tribes dont have migs my friend</description>
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<p>this is to jog your memory mcayrow&#8230; tribes dont have migs my friend</p>
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		<title>By: xiis</title>
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		<dc:creator>xiis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wrong again mcayrow, it was not civil war or tribal/clan war in 1980s in somaliland, it was deliberate attempt by the Somali state to annihilate the people of somaliland with our own tax-money.  they used the full force of the state against us including planes, tanks, and artillery.  it was an organized and well thought out genocide.  this was straw that broke the camel`s back, it convinced somalilanders that we could never ever share a govt with southern somalia and we need to reclaim our lost sovereignty.  by the way, it is very insulting the way belittle the atrocities by the somali govt as a little civil war among tribes. that is not true and u know it.  so how about this u keep your criminals like morgan and turki just leave Somaliland alone. period. we have defeated the somali state in 1991 and do not need your help in avoiding another genocide in our country. our govt, army, and people will defend us from southern somalia if u guys ever attempt an attack on us again.  I am not a militant but a believer in justice.  But u seem to be an apologist for war criminals.  In that case i think our discussion is over my friend.  good luck with your against ethiopia just leave us out of it and please take your refugees back too.  by the way u are wrong about the somali script it was written before Barre came to power in the 60s by Muuse Galaal a Somali Literary from Burao Somaliland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wrong again mcayrow, it was not civil war or tribal/clan war in 1980s in somaliland, it was deliberate attempt by the Somali state to annihilate the people of somaliland with our own tax-money.  they used the full force of the state against us including planes, tanks, and artillery.  it was an organized and well thought out genocide.  this was straw that broke the camel`s back, it convinced somalilanders that we could never ever share a govt with southern somalia and we need to reclaim our lost sovereignty.  by the way, it is very insulting the way belittle the atrocities by the somali govt as a little civil war among tribes. that is not true and u know it.  so how about this u keep your criminals like morgan and turki just leave Somaliland alone. period. we have defeated the somali state in 1991 and do not need your help in avoiding another genocide in our country. our govt, army, and people will defend us from southern somalia if u guys ever attempt an attack on us again.  I am not a militant but a believer in justice.  But u seem to be an apologist for war criminals.  In that case i think our discussion is over my friend.  good luck with your against ethiopia just leave us out of it and please take your refugees back too.  by the way u are wrong about the somali script it was written before Barre came to power in the 60s by Muuse Galaal a Somali Literary from Burao Somaliland.</p>
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		<title>By: MCayrow</title>
		<link>http://antiwar.com/radio/2008/09/29/ken-menkhaus/comment-page-1/#comment-2805</link>
		<dc:creator>MCayrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Xiis,

I was not comparing India to Somalia or vice versa – but I was merely comparing just the actions. Moreover, India’s culture is just different and not better or worse than our culture is – and btw, it is up to us how well we promote and sell to the others our culture.

What the westerns say about our culture is utterly wrong – because, there is no way that our great grandfathers or even our grandfathers did not do anything to fix it – if they did not fixed it – it only means that it was good as it is and there was no need to fix it. We (Somalis) need to remember that.

Now, back to the stupid tribe rivalry thing, I believe that all our tribes (including yours and mine) are either all good or they all suck; I am putting my money on – they all suck and a big time. As I said before, as it is, we are all fucked-up – now, the question is – do we have any hope? Yes, but only if we accept each other as we are, forgive what happened yesterday, and tried to move on. 

As far as Morgan, Turki and those like them concerned, they are almost in every tribe – and, since, what happened between us was a civil war, we cannot go after only specific ones and let the others off the hook – that would be injustice, and would not do any good to those who lost their lives. However, if we go after all of them, then that would only mean the continuation of the civil war, which, then leads us to more loss of Somali lives. 

Look my dear brother, we no longer afford to waste our time on focusing what an individual did or did not in the course of our civil war – because, one way or the other we all participated to some extent in this mess.  Instead, we need to concentrate our energies and time how to prevent it form happening again.

On the other hand, I agree with you that we have plenty of people who committed as you said it “a war crime”.  Nevertheless, we need to quit, once for all, militant mentalities and focus on how we could improve the lives of all Somalis wherever they are – and, the best way to do all of this is to think positively, brother.
(...)


Ps: Foreign advisers advised to MR. Barre to make Somali script the official government language and it was not something that came from him, as some people would like to us to believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Xiis,</p>
<p>I was not comparing India to Somalia or vice versa – but I was merely comparing just the actions. Moreover, India’s culture is just different and not better or worse than our culture is – and btw, it is up to us how well we promote and sell to the others our culture.</p>
<p>What the westerns say about our culture is utterly wrong – because, there is no way that our great grandfathers or even our grandfathers did not do anything to fix it – if they did not fixed it – it only means that it was good as it is and there was no need to fix it. We (Somalis) need to remember that.</p>
<p>Now, back to the stupid tribe rivalry thing, I believe that all our tribes (including yours and mine) are either all good or they all suck; I am putting my money on – they all suck and a big time. As I said before, as it is, we are all fucked-up – now, the question is – do we have any hope? Yes, but only if we accept each other as we are, forgive what happened yesterday, and tried to move on. </p>
<p>As far as Morgan, Turki and those like them concerned, they are almost in every tribe – and, since, what happened between us was a civil war, we cannot go after only specific ones and let the others off the hook – that would be injustice, and would not do any good to those who lost their lives. However, if we go after all of them, then that would only mean the continuation of the civil war, which, then leads us to more loss of Somali lives. </p>
<p>Look my dear brother, we no longer afford to waste our time on focusing what an individual did or did not in the course of our civil war – because, one way or the other we all participated to some extent in this mess.  Instead, we need to concentrate our energies and time how to prevent it form happening again.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I agree with you that we have plenty of people who committed as you said it “a war crime”.  Nevertheless, we need to quit, once for all, militant mentalities and focus on how we could improve the lives of all Somalis wherever they are – and, the best way to do all of this is to think positively, brother.<br />
(&#8230;)</p>
<p>Ps: Foreign advisers advised to MR. Barre to make Somali script the official government language and it was not something that came from him, as some people would like to us to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: xiis</title>
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		<dc:creator>xiis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>daawo waraysigan:

http://www.hadhwanaag.com/newsdetail.jsp?selectid=13814</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>daawo waraysigan:</p>
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		<title>By: xiis</title>
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		<dc:creator>xiis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You made a good argument about the Somali script.  I heard it from many other people before as well.  You are right that Afweyne used it to consolidate his power.  However,  you cannot disregard the fact tha it brought literacy to many people who did not have access to colonial education in the past.  As for India, u cannot compare us to a second largest nation in the world with one of oldest civilizations mankind has ever known.  They already had several written languages when the Brits got there like urdu, gujarati, punjabi, bengali, tamil, and of course hindi.  Sorry but I will not and cannot forgive a war criminal like Turki, Morgan, etc... They should killed or locked up period.  other folks who worked for the regime can and should be forgiven for the sake of reconciliation.  We did that in Somaliland during the early 90s and it worked quite well for us.  That is why Rayaale could become President.  However, contrary to current rumours, Rayaale did not kill anyone.  In fact, the people of Berbera regard him as a hero because he saved many people from jail and death during the war of liberation when he was NSS.  In Somaliland, we have a war crimes commission that documents these atrocities.  So no I will never ever forgive a war criminal like Turki who still wants to kill me and my people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You made a good argument about the Somali script.  I heard it from many other people before as well.  You are right that Afweyne used it to consolidate his power.  However,  you cannot disregard the fact tha it brought literacy to many people who did not have access to colonial education in the past.  As for India, u cannot compare us to a second largest nation in the world with one of oldest civilizations mankind has ever known.  They already had several written languages when the Brits got there like urdu, gujarati, punjabi, bengali, tamil, and of course hindi.  Sorry but I will not and cannot forgive a war criminal like Turki, Morgan, etc&#8230; They should killed or locked up period.  other folks who worked for the regime can and should be forgiven for the sake of reconciliation.  We did that in Somaliland during the early 90s and it worked quite well for us.  That is why Rayaale could become President.  However, contrary to current rumours, Rayaale did not kill anyone.  In fact, the people of Berbera regard him as a hero because he saved many people from jail and death during the war of liberation when he was NSS.  In Somaliland, we have a war crimes commission that documents these atrocities.  So no I will never ever forgive a war criminal like Turki who still wants to kill me and my people.</p>
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		<title>By: MCayrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCayrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, I misspelled again – I meant handicap and extent in my yesterday&#039;s post.  After nine years, I am still learning the damn thing!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I misspelled again – I meant handicap and extent in my yesterday&#8217;s post.  After nine years, I am still learning the damn thing!  <img src='http://antiwar.com/radio/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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