Andrew Cockburn pt.1

Rumsfeld’s Legacy


While Antiwar Radio is on hiatus, here is a “best of” from April 2007:

Andrew Cockburn, author of Rumsfeld: His Rise, Fall and Catastrophic Legacy, discusses Donald Rumsfeld’s flawed personality, and history of intrigue, naked ambition, torture and war.

MP3 here. (57:29)

Andrew Cockburn is a writer and lecturer on defense and national affairs, and is also the author of five nonfiction books. He has written for The New York Times, The New Yorker, Playboy, Vanity Fair, and National Geographic, among other publications. He currently lives in Washington, D.C.

Andrew Cockburn pt.2

Rumsfeld: War Criminal


A “best of” from April 2007:

Antiwar Radio Exclusive: Revealed by Andrew Cockburn April 18, 2007: When Secretary of State Madeline Albright announced, on March 26, 1997, that Iraqi sanctions would stay in place despite the UN inspectors success it was an effort to preempt UN inspection chief Ralf Ekeus’s pending announcement that Iraq was to be certified “free” of “weapons of mass destruction.” (at 22:40)

MP3 here. (40:31)

This, as Cockburn explains, led Saddam to decide there was no further point in allowing the inspectors access to his palaces. (Former UN inspector Scott Ritter has maintained, including to this radio host, that the only purpose for the inspections after 1996 was to allow American spies the opportunity to assassinate Saddam Hussein.) This allowed Bill Clinton to falsely claim that Saddam had kicked them out of the country, launch his “Operation Desert Fox” bombing campaign (on the day the full House of Representatives were to begin debating Articles of Impeachment against him), and for the War Party to claim to this day that there must have been weapons there.

Also: Cockburn and General Anthony Zinni’s belief that the neocons’ plan B after installing Chalabi as dictator fell through was to deliberately destroy Iraq (that is, all this “failure” is on purpose), the suffering of the Iraq people, Rumfeld’s bogus “transformation” of the military and more…

Andrew Cockburn is a writer and lecturer on defense and national affairs, and is also the author of five nonfiction books. He has written for The New York Times, The New Yorker, Playboy, Vanity Fair, and National Geographic, among other publications. He currently lives in Washington, D.C.

Patrick Cockburn

Iraq Wins Iraq War


Patrick Cockburn, Middle East correspondent for The Independent, discusses the enforcement power of Iraq’s Status of Forces Agreement in light of comments by General Ray Odierno, the influence Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani still has over the major decisions on Iraq’s future, the disappearance of Iraq as a media topic since the “successful surge” narrative became definitive, the instability in Kurdistan, how the U.S. inadvertently aided Iran’s rise as a regional power and the perils of not learning from history’s blunders.

MP3 here. (32:04)

Patrick Cockburn, Middle East correspondent for The Independent, has been visiting Iraq since 1978. He was awarded the 2005 Martha Gellhorn prize for war reporting in recognition of his writing on Iraq. He is the author of The Occupation: War, Resistance and Daily Life in Iraq and Muqtada: Muqtada al-Sadr, the Shia revival and the Struggle for Iraq.

Philip Giraldi

Israeli Spies Get Out of Jail Free


Former CIA counter-terrorism agent Philip Giraldi discusses his article “Israel’s ‘Get Out of Jail Free’ Card” on, discusses the degradation of law and order when Dick Cheney can admit that he authorized torture and not fear prosecution, the long delayed Steven Rosen and Keith Weissman espionage trial, rumors of a Bush pardon for Jonathan Pollard, the disconnect between federal agents who aggressively pursue espionage cases and their department heads who don’t follow through, Steven Rosen’s new day-job blogging for Daniel Pipes’ Middle East Forum and the disappearance of indicted spy-for-Israel Ben-Ami Kadish.

MP3 here. (45:57)

Philip Giraldi writes the bi-weekly Smoke and Mirrors column for, is a board member of the American Conservative Defense Alliance, a contributing editor for The American Conservative magazine and a former counter terrorism officer for the CIA.

Glenn Greenwald

Manufacturing Dissent


Glenn Greenwald, former constitutional law and civil rights litigator, discusses Noam Chomsky’s theory of “concision” in the context of the limited parameters of discussion on television, the ease of spouting platitudes and the difficulty of challenging conventional wisdom on cable news shows, how the Georgian conflict highlighted the unwillingness of the mainstream media to challenge a false premise that has bipartisan support and how Obama’s cabinet appointments were foreshadowed by his support for Joe Lieberman’s Senate candidacy.

MP3 here. (39:43)

Glenn Greenwald is a regular blogger at and the author of Great American Hypocrites: Toppling the Big Myths of Republican Politics, A Tragic Legacy: How a Good vs. Evil Mentality Destroyed the Bush Presidency, How Would a Patriot Act? Defending American Values from a President Run Amok.

Thomas Woods

World War II Was Bad for the Economy


Thomas E. Woods, senior fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, discusses the evidence that contradicts Paul Krugman’s opinion that war is good for the economy, the renewed skepticism on the cause-and-effect relationship between WWII production and U.S. economic recovery, the stifling of private investment during the Depression due to erratic governmental interventions, the centrality of managerial intransigence to current Big-3 automaker woes and the debate on the benefits of a global division of labor.

MP3 here. (38:15)

Thomas E. Woods. is a senior fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, co-editor with Murray Polner of We Who Dared to Say No to War: American Antiwar Writing from 1812 to Now, and author of The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History and Meltdown: A Free-market Look at Why the Stock Market Collapsed, the Economy Tanked, and the Government Bailout Will Make Things Worse.

Gareth Porter

The US and Iran


Gareth Porter, independent historian and journalist, discusses his recent visit to Iran to determine the receptivity of government officials to U.S. diplomatic overtures, the divide in Iranian opinion over Obama, how U.S. interference abroad allows defiant nationalistic governments stay in power, Obama’s potential to learn from his foreign policy mistakes despite the influence of hawkish advisers and how Iran’s increased regional influence and friendly relations with Iraq make nuclear weapons less likely.

MP3 here. (44:17)

Dr. Gareth Porter is an investigative historian and journalist on U.S. national security policy. Porter is the author of four books, the latest of which is Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam. He has written regularly for Inter Press Service on U.S. policy toward Iraq and Iran since 2005. His articles also appear on and the Huffington Post.

Roger Charles

Oklahoma City Cover Up


Roger Charles, a free-lance journalist and investigator, discusses the untimely death of J.D. Cash – the pre-eminent journalist covering the Oklahoma City bombing, his upcoming book about the bombing, the failure of Congress to conduct a single hearing on the largest act of domestic terrorism in U.S. history, the likelihood that Andreas Strassmeir was working with the FBI and why Bill Clinton said the OKC bombing saved his 1996 presidential campaign.

MP3 here. (40:29)

Roger Charles was a career Marine Corps officer and has worked as an investigative reporter for major media organisations and news programs such as as the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, Newsweek, U.S. News & World Report, the New Yorker, CBS 60 Minutes and Frontline.



Chris Emery, a member of the Oklahoma City Bombing Investigation Committee, discusses the bizarre trials of Terry Nichols and ATF agent Carol Howe, the physical evidence supporting the existence of bombs inside the Murrah building, the individuals responsible for promoting a Ramzi Yousef/Saddam Hussein connection to the OKC bombing, the current lobbying of Oklahoma Senator Tom Coburn to use the confirmation hearing of Attorney General nominee Eric Holder to question the Kenny Trentadue murder coverup, the actual role Timothy McVeigh played and which background materials are most helpful to people trying to learn about the OKC bombing.

MP3 here. (1:23:30)

Chris Emery is a film writer, director, producer living in Oklahoma City. He is currently working on his fifth documentary film which is a feature length project covering the Oklahoma City Bombing case.

Justin Raimondo

A New World Order?


Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of, discusses his article “Beware the New Globalism,” the shift in U.S. empire from Bush’s unilaterism to Obama’s multilateralism, how the economic meltdown is only the latest justification for global regulation, the appeal of smaller and more efficient regional governments, the likelihood of increased international cooperation on Iran sanctions and intervention in Africa under the Obama administration and how the U.S. is eschewing a democratic republic in favor of plutocratic socialism.

MP3 here. (53:44)

Justin Raimondo is the editorial director of He is the author of An Enemy of the State: The Life of Murray N. Rothbard (Prometheus Books, 2000). He is also the author of Reclaiming the American Right: The Lost Legacy of the Conservative Movement (with an Introduction by Patrick J. Buchanan), (Center for Libertarian Studies, 1993), and Into the Bosnian Quagmire: The Case Against U.S. Intervention in the Balkans (1996).

He is a contributing editor for The American Conservative, a Senior Fellow at the Randolph Bourne Institute, and an Adjunct Scholar with the Ludwig von Mises Institute, and writes frequently for Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture.

Russell Means

The Independent Republic of Lakota


Russell Means, the chief facilitator of the newly declared Independent Republic of Lakota, discusses his 2007 role in withdrawing the Lakota Sioux from U.S. treaty obligations, the inherent economic limitations on Indian lands held in trust by the U.S. government, the enormous sum of money held in limbo from the 1980 United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians Supreme Court decision and how the subjugation of American Indians inspired Hitler’s ideas for eugenics and labor camps and South Africa’s apartheid laws.

MP3 here. (33:31)

Russell Means was a leader of the American Indian Movement (AIM) that occupied Alcatraz Island in 1969. He acted in the films The Last of the Mohicans and Natural Born Killers.

Robert Parry



Robert Parry, author of Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq, discusses the just-released tapes of Lyndon Johnson suspecting the 1968 Nixon campaign of treason, the history of Republican dirty tricks initiated or inspired by Nixon from 1968 to the present, the longevity of establishment political players like Henry Kissinger despite their repeated involvement in scandals, the background of the 1980 October surprise and the possible complicity of George H.W. Bush and current Secretary of Defense Robert Gates in delaying the release of American hostages in Iran to aid the Reagan campaign.

MP3 here. (50:22)

Robert Parry is an investigative journalist who won the George Polk Award in 1984 for reporting on the Iran-Contra affair and uncovering Oliver North’s involvement in it. He is the founder and editor of and author of Neck Deep: The Disastrous Presidency of George W. Bush, Trick or Treason: The October Surprise Mystery and Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq.

Joseph Salerno

The Logic of War-Making


Joseph Salerno, senior fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, discusses the praxeology of war-making, the difference between entrepreneurs and plutocrats, the unfortunate state of affairs that compels major U.S. businesses to employ Washington lobbyists, the geopolitics of Middle East oil and why foreign policy is war by another name.

MP3 here. (26:19)

Joseph Salerno is a senior fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, professor of economics at Pace University, and editor of the Quarterly Journal of Austrian Economics.

Robert Dreyfuss

Obama’s Iraq


Robert Dreyfuss, author of Devil’s Game, discusses the coming pitfalls for the Iraq Status of Forces Agreement, the prospects for full withdrawal in the face of renewed “facts on the ground” decision-making rhetoric, the many possible meanings of “residual forces,” the political power struggles among the many Iraqi factions, the influence of foreign policy think tank agitators in the Obama administration, the tendency of U.S. diplomats to deliberately fail in “peace talks” to create a pretense for military action and the need to shift the centrality of Iran/U.S. relations away from the nuclear issue.

MP3 here. (34:35)

Based in Alexandria, Va., Dreyfuss been writing for Rolling Stone for at least a decade, and currently covers national security for Rolling Stone’s National Affairs section. He’s a contributing editor at The Nation, a contributing writer at Mother Jones, and a senior correspondent for The American Prospect. His articles have also appeared in The Washington Monthly, The New Republic, Newsday, Worth, California Lawyer, The Texas Observer, E, In These Times, The Detroit Metro Times, Public Citizen, Extra!, and, in Japan, in Esquire, Foresight and Nikkei Business. His blog, The Dreyfuss Report, is now at The Nation.

Andrew Bacevich

Empire Weakens America


Andrew Bacevich, professor of international relations at Boston University and author of The Limits of Power: The End of American Exceptionalism, discusses the negative net returns of U.S. expansionism from the 1960s onward, the establishment of a permanent national security apparatus that made non-interventionism impossible, the Carter Doctrine’s faulty premises and continued influence in Middle East policies and the current Pentagon reassessment of U.S. military limitations that may inhibit a troop surge in Afghanistan and force a more realistic political solution.

MP3 here. (42:03)

Andrew Bacevich is a Professor of International Relations at Boston University, Vietnam War veteran and author of The New American Militarism: How Americans Are Seduced by War, and The Long War: A New History of U.S. National Security Policy Since World War II.

Jesse Trentadue

Documents Show FBI Sting in OKC Bombing


Jesse Trentadue discusses the the events surrounding the 1995 murder of his brother while in federal custody in Oklahoma City and the connection to the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, the Elohim City paramilitary camp sting operation run by the FBI and Southern Poverty Law Center, foreknowledge of FBI agents and complicity of FBI informants in the bombing, the ongoing court battles with the U.S. government over FOIA requests and civil lawsuits and the involvement of Obama’s appointed attorney general Eric Holder in the coverup of Kenny’s murder.

Scott’s collection of Trentadue pdf files.

MP3 here. (54:24)

Jesse Trentadue is an attorney in Salt Lake City, Utah.

Matthew Alexander

I’m Still Tortured by What I Saw in Iraq


Matthew Alexander, former U.S. military interrogator and author of the opinion piece “I’m Still Tortured by What I Saw in Iraq” published in the Washington Post, discusses how information gleaned from ethical interrogations enabled the killing of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the relatively moderate views of most Iraqi Al-Qaeda members who joined for practical rather than ideological reasons, the moral and operational failure of torture and the enduring legacy of Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo as a recruiting aid for violent extremists.

MP3 here. (29:09)

Matthew Alexander led an interrogations team assigned to a Special Operations task force in Iraq in 2006. He is the author of How to Break a Terrorist: The U.S. Interrogators Who Used Brains, Not Brutality, to Take Down the Deadliest Man in Iraq. He is writing under a pseudonym for security reasons.

Thomas Woods

Saying No to War


Thomas E. Woods, Jr., co-editor of We Who Dared to Say No to War: American Antiwar Writing from 1812 to Now, discusses the persistence of pro-war propaganda over time, the remarkably similar arguments made to justify the War of 1812 and the current Iraq war, the curious case of pro-secessionist and abolitionist Lysander Spooner, the Wilsonian provocations that ensured U.S. entry into W.W.I, the importance of forming a left-right antiwar alliance to counter the bipartisan war party and the legacy of the Bush presidency being reflected in Obama’s cabinet appointments.

MP3 here. (50:57)

Thomas E. Woods, Jr. is a senior fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute, co-editor with Murray Polner of We Who Dared to Say No to War: American Antiwar Writing from 1812 to Now, and author of The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History.

Chris Hedges

Confronting the Terrorist Within


Chris Hedges, author of War is a Force that Gives Us Meaning, discusses the anti-occupation motives of terrorists, the similarities of extremists that transcend religion and culture, how a U.S. economic collapse could usher in a popular uprising of the Christian Right, the desperate and mostly ignored situation in the Gaza Strip and the terrible consequences of a war with Iran.

MP3 here. (36:03)

Chris Hedges is a Pulitzer Prize winning reporter, senior fellow at The Nation Institute, lecturer at Princeton University and the author of War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning and American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War On America.

Frida Berrigan

Can Obama Take on the Pentagon?


Frida Berrigan, co-author of the article “Who Rules the Pentagon?”, discusses Obama’s distinctly non-reformist national security team, the need to reevaluate the meaning of “national defense” amidst a U.S. empire of bases, the struggle between realists and neocons over weapons procurement dollars and the public relations campaign of defense contractors to base Pentagon funding on a percentage of GDP.

MP3 here. (35:17)

Frida Berrigan is Senior Program Associate of the Arms and Security Initiative at the New America Foundation. Previously, she served for eight years as Deputy Director and Senior Research Associate at the Arms Trade Resource Center at the World Policy Institute at the New School in New York City. She has also worked as a researcher at The Nation magazine.

Katrina vanden Heuvel

Republic Not Empire


Katrina vanden Heuvel, editor and publisher for The Nation magazine, discusses the incoming Obama Administration, the popular backlash against corporate power, the ethical and practical necessity of ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, how an escalation in Afghanistan would ruin the promise of change and hope from the Obama campaign, the impotence of conventional military power against the contemporary threats of asymmetrical warfare and piracy and why NATO should be disbanded and a new cold war with Russia prevented.

MP3 here. (35:14)

Katrina vanden Heuvel has been The Nation’s editor since 1995 and publisher since 2005. She is the co-editor of Taking Back America–And Taking Down The Radical Right and, most recently, editor of The Dictionary of Republicanisms.

Bill Barnwell

The End of Days


Bill Barnwell, minister from Michigan and writer for, discusses the merit of the “Obama is the Antichrist” rumors, how American dispensationalists influence Mideast policy, the havoc created if a Third Temple were rebuilt in Israel, the wisdom of a historical-contextual reading of the Bible and the conflict between militarist theology and Biblical scripture.

MP3 here. (37:06)

Bill Barnwell is a pastor and writer from Michigan. He holds both a Master of Ministry degree and a Master of Arts in Theological Studies degree from Bethel College in Mishawaka, Indiana.