Scott Horton Interviews Bill Barnwell

Scott Horton, December 02, 2008

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Bill Barnwell, minister from Michigan and writer for, discusses the merit of the “Obama is the Antichrist” rumors, how American dispensationalists influence Mideast policy, the havoc created if a Third Temple were rebuilt in Israel, the wisdom of a historical-contextual reading of the Bible and the conflict between militarist theology and Biblical scripture.

MP3 here. (37:06)

Bill Barnwell is a pastor and writer from Michigan. He holds both a Master of Ministry degree and a Master of Arts in Theological Studies degree from Bethel College in Mishawaka, Indiana.

4 Responses to “Bill Barnwell”

  1. As Bill Barnwell stated, “Maybe these passages don’t mean what we ‘think’ they mean.”


    The problem with the whole perspective presented here–that is, both sides of this issue–is something that is referred to in science as “naive realism”.

    The “naive realism” perspective here is the assumption that prophets *only* have knowledge about future *events*, that they have no knowledge of truth, that they have no knowledge of the specific aspects of relationship between man and God, and that their only concern is not in conveying any particular Doctrinal teaching; but merely saying in symbols what is going to happen in the future. Prophets are reduced to being nothing more than ‘journalists’ of the future.

    This perspective of the monotheistic religions is *sharply* different from the perspective of the Eastern religions, where religious authorities are looked upon as being “wise”, with a deep understanding of human interactions and human psychology, however that is defined.

    And there are, of course, political ramifications to such “naive realism”, as well as the rejection of such “naive realism”, as is explained in more detail on both the website linked to my name and my other website at:

    Michael Cecil

  2. Scott’s question to this “Christian” guest asking whether the modern day US Empire isn’t closer to the Roman Empire, that decimated the original followers of Christ, was spot on.

  3. Thank you for having Rev. Birdwell on your program. He has a very deep
    understanding Biblical interpretation in respect to the Book Of Revealation.
    Over the years this book has been called the “happy hunting ground of
    every kook in Christendom”. You deserved kudos for having someone
    who can discuss this objectively and authoratively.


    A look into the beginnings of the Hebrew bible, worth the watch, I think.

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