Scott Horton Interviews Russell Means

Scott Horton, December 12, 2008

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Russell Means, the chief facilitator of the newly declared Independent Republic of Lakota, discusses his 2007 role in withdrawing the Lakota Sioux from U.S. treaty obligations, the inherent economic limitations on Indian lands held in trust by the U.S. government, the enormous sum of money held in limbo from the 1980 United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians Supreme Court decision and how the subjugation of American Indians inspired Hitler’s ideas for eugenics and labor camps and South Africa’s apartheid laws.

MP3 here. (33:31)

Russell Means was a leader of the American Indian Movement (AIM) that occupied Alcatraz Island in 1969. He acted in the films The Last of the Mohicans and Natural Born Killers.

25 Responses to “Russell Means”

  1. If anyone has experience with being screwed over byt the USG it is the American Indians. Means cleared the air with the Libertarians in short order… i.e. If you try to play by their (USG) rules then you have lost before you have started. If enough people got together and joined their movement we could force the government’s hand. And I have no doubt that they would use their most tried and true method, extreme force, to put whatever “threat” down. The threats that they talk about and hype today are not to the safety and well being of the general public but to the manintenace of the status quo as it now exists between Washington and their friends in the private sector. If you think that going through the “system” and playing by the rules will change any of this then you are dreaming.

  2. Have you ever tried to get an interview with John Taylor Gatto?


  4. russell means calls americans the new indians of the21st century. where can i learn the language of my people?

  5. Gatto is right on the mark with his evaluation of US education. Conditioned to obey and accept failure… Humans have great potential and ability at a young age but it is conditioned out of them by the present system. We suffer from our own ignorance about what is being done to the general public.

  6. Barbara Whiteside showed me a poem written by a high school senior in Alton, Illinois, two weeks before he committed suicide:
    ~ John Taylor Gatto

    He drew… the things inside that needed saying. Beautiful pictures he kept under his pillow.
    When he started school he brought them…
    To have along like a friend.
    It was funny about school, he sat at a square brown desk Like all the other square brown desks… and his room Was a square brown room like all the other rooms, tight And close and stiff.
    He hated to hold the pencil and chalk, his arms stiff
    His feet flat on the floor, stiff, the teacher watching
    And watching. She told him to wear a tie like
    All the other boys, he said he didn’t like them.
    She said it didn’t matter what he liked. After that the class drew.
    He drew all yellow. It was the way he felt about Morning. The Teacher came and smiled, “What’s this?
    Why don’t you draw something like Ken’s drawing?”
    After that his mother bought him a tie, and he always Drew airplanes and rocketships like everyone else.
    He was square inside and brown and his hands were stiff. The things inside that needed saying didn’t need it
    Anymore, they had stopped pushing… crushed, stiff
    Like everything else.

  7. Thanks for the link, Scott. Great interviews man. Please keep up the great work.

    Best of luck to the Independent Republic of Lakota.

  8. The American Indian is America’s Palestinian: robbed of his birthright and ethnically-cleansed from his homeland by a bunch of low-life racist white scum. But, what goes around comes around eventually. The USA is now on its way back to the stone age, and the sooner the better.

  9. Scott! Why didn’t ya ask him why he was setting up a government?
    It looks like Means and the Lakotas are going to fall into the same vicious trap of statism…

    If Means is serious about “individual liberty” (a term which he used several times in the interview) then him and the Lakotas should not set up a government.

    Scott, if you interview him again, can you ask him about this?

    Love Russell Means

    Ryan Dawson with Mike Rivero What Really Happened Radio Friday March 7 Lakota re-independence and Native American issues.

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    The link above goes into an hour long radio program I did on this last March about the Lakota.

    Scott thank you so much for interviewing Russell and tackling these often ignored issues.

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  13. endkidup you have such guilt . If you feel so stronly what the early settlers did ,
    than why dont you give them your house they would appreciate that after all its on their former land
    You bleeding white whiners who think its all OUR fault. Return your homes and businesses to a tribe of your choice.
    There is no such thing as a noble savage ,If you read history they were hacking on each otherlong before WE showed up.
    You could get a min wage job at your local casino.
    Indians want to keep traditions alive , my ancesters worshipped trees and took heads, when they came here those practices were given up inorde to advance their people. Theres the Makaw tribe in WA state that hunt whales, with a explosive charged harpoon so much for tradition Want to hunt whale ? fine do it in a old style boat powered by tribe members and use a harpoon like your people did long ago
    And get rid of your cars, tvs ,plane flights, modern medicine, housing all designed by white Europeansand their decendants. You cant have it both ways!
    It really gets me that the US Military uses a poster of a indian partof face is old traditional warpaint the othe camo. The sign says warrior WTF? Like you are the only ones that came from a warrior people . I saw many Hordic decendants (Vikings) in the military, Scot decendants (the last savages in the British Isles
    He have Slaves (from the steppes of Russia) Many african decendants Maybe from the warrior Zulu nation German,Chinese,Japanese ,Sihk etc etc
    when you put on group on a pedestal you lessen the importance and value of the other groups. You Lost! as we will sometime in the future Its called evolution change it never ending

  14. While having plenty of sympathy for the appalling way indigenous peoples have been and continue to be treated, I’m not buying the idea that in native American culture there is some kind of libertarian wonderland just waiting to blossom. Traditional societies the world over have always valued the group over the individual (notwithstanding honored individual heroes, chiefs and so on, whose exploits are usually seen in the context of furthering the tribe’s well-being anyway). Land and resources were shared for the benefit of the entire group. That’s how they survived in a world that did not offer much margin for self-indulgence.

    I’m sure that sticks in the libertarian craw, but so be it. I’d be fascinated to read any real evidence (not just assertion) to the contrary.

  15. I should also add my theory about the people supposedly ‘joining’ the Lakota nation. Might I hazard a guess that most of them are interested in the tax advantages, rather than wanting to make some political statement? Call me a cynic, but…

  16. Get a copy of Stannard’s “American Holocaust” and read it. Payback is long overdue. And I do not mean giving back our lands and properties…

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  18. That was an excellent interview. I hope you have him on again.

  19. Backlash is a mfer. This death culture will only be allowed, by the earth, to continue its ever self hating mission for so long. Retribution will come. This miserable civilization will fall and then all of the assholes who say “too bad, you lost, that’s evolution…” will find out what evolution is really like and to be on the other side of the argument.

    Just wait, mfers, the day is coming.

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  22. Scott, in my opinion, this was one of your most astonishing interviews ever – if not “THE” most, and Mr. Means’s argument makes America a great place to live than flag-waving a**holes’ love it or leave it cr*p.

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  24. Let your cameras be seen near the polling areas, criminals dont care much for cameras.

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