Scott Horton Interviews Andy Worthington

Scott Horton, May 07, 2009

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Andy Worthington, author of The Guantanamo Files, discusses the necessity of prosecuting the handful of real 9-11 conspirators even though they were tortured, the unsupported claim that numerous released Guantanamo prisoners “returned to the battlefield,” the ill-advised revival of Cheney/Addington military commissions and how the U.S. Bagram air base remains outside the scope of Obama’s “reforms.”

MP3 here. (26:16)

Andy Worthington writes for Counterpunch, the Future of Freedom Foundation and Antiwar.com.

8 Responses to “Andy Worthington”

  1. THEY WON’T TRY THEM BECAUSE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE! THE GOVERNMENT DID 9-11!

    Torture is, and always will be, a tool for extracting false confessions.

  2. You want names? Here, let’s see if I get sued for libel:

    Elliott Abrams Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Democracy, Human Rights, and International Operations (2001–2002), Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Near East and North African Affairs (2002–2005), Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Advisor for Global Democracy Strategy (2005-2009) (all within the National Security Council)
    Richard Armitage Deputy Secretary of State (2001-2005)
    John R. Bolton Under-Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs (2001-2005), U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations (2005-2006)
    Dick Cheney Vice President (2001-2009)
    Eliot A. Cohen Member of the Defense Policy Advisory Board (2007-2009)[61]
    Seth Cropsey Director of the International Broadcasting Bureau (12/2002-12/2004)
    Paula Dobriansky Under-Secretary of State for Global Affairs (2001-2007)
    Francis Fukuyama Member of the The President’s Council on Bioethics (2001-2005)
    Zalmay Khalilzad U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan (11/2003 – 6/2005), U.S. Ambassador to Iraq (6/2005 – 3/2007) U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations (2007-2009)
    I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby Chief of Staff to the Vice President of the United States (2001-2005) under Dick Cheney
    Richard Perle Chairman of the Board, Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee (2001-2003)
    Peter W. Rodman Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security (2001-2007)
    Donald Rumsfeld Secretary of Defense (2001-2006)
    Randy Scheunemann Member of the U.S. Committee on NATO, Project on Transitional Democracies, International Republican Institute
    Paul Wolfowitz Deputy Secretary of Defense (2001-2005)
    Dov S. Zakheim Department of Defense Comptroller (2001-2004)
    Robert B. Zoellick Office of the United States Trade Representative (2001-2005), Deputy Secretary of State (2005-2006), 11th President of the World Bank (2007-2009)

  3. Benjamin certainly has it right. Here’s a slightly lengthy explanation of what really happened. When a person finally pulls their head out of their ass, and accepts the fact that the planes were photo-shopped on to the WTC videos (and rather crudely, in places) after the fact, and that there is a time delay between when things happen and when you see them on TV, it explains a number of things, such as:

    1) Why there is no video of ANYBODY boarding any of the planes in question, at the boarding gates in question, at the airports in question, on the date in question. Additionally, the FBI stupidly claimed that 9 of the “Arabs” were sent to secondary security, due to “suspicion.” If that’s so, then why is there no secondary security video of any of them? Are they freaking vampires? And, if they went through this added security, then how could they have possibly taken all of the weapons and such on board that the government claims? And where are the federal lawsuits against the airports, airlines, and/or security company(ies) for allowing it to happen? Simple. There are no lawsuits because there is no video of them, and they didn’t get those weapons on the planes, because they didn’t get on the planes.

    2) Why they have never recovered any tail sections, any of the huge, 6-ton tempered-steel outboard engines, none of the tubular steel seat frames, none of the passengers’ corpses, any of their luggage (and please don’t tell me you believe the bullshit that they recovered intact suicide notes and slightly-singed passports from places where they claim that KEROSENE literally boiled tens of tons of metal into thin air), fuselages, the basically indestructible black boxes (which have ALWAYS been recovered before and since 9/11), etc. When planes of that type crash, THEY LEAVE WRECKAGE!

    3) Why a woman who still lives in New York spent 5 years searching for relatives of 64 people on one of the obviously phony passenger lists, and even after hiring detectives, never found a single one.

    4) Why Willie Brown and a number of clergy left San Francisco International Airport after around four hours on that date, because not one family member/relative/friend ever showed up to inquire after any of the alleged passengers on “Flight 93.” (By the way, the “crash” outside of Shanksville was nothing more than some buried military ordinance being set off. The coroner who visited the site didn’t find one human body part or one drop of blood. And around 6,000 cubic yards of soil were excavated from that area to check for jet fuel contamination, since a number of people in that area get their water from underground wells. If “Flight 93″ had crashed there, and you buy the government’s timeline, it would have still had at least 6,000 to 7,000 gallons of fuel on board. Not only did they find no jet fuel contamination, they found NO JET FUEL!)

    5) Why NORAD never intercepted any of these “hijacked” airliners — because there were none to intercept.

    6) Why neither United nor American airlines has ever filed a loss claim for any one of those four flights.

    7) Why there is no video of a 757 hitting the Pentagon.

    8) Why, up until late 2004, as pointed out by a noted 9/11 researcher, the BTS web site showed that neither of the American flights were even scheduled to fly on that date. The BTS pulled the pages off-line and doctored them, later reposting them, but unfortunately for them, by that time, the original pages had been backed up and widely distributed over the Internet.

    9) Why the FAA had the tail numbers of the 2 United flights registered as “valid,” meaning that the planes were still in service, until September 28, 2005. The FAA only de-registered them after two other 9/11 researchers kept demanding to know why the planes were still registered as being in service, after both the government and the airlines had stated for the record that they were destroyed in a terrorist attack.

    10) Why the FAA’s own directory of pilots and their qualifications showed (at least a while ago; they’ve probably doctored that by now, just as they doctored the BTS web pages after the criminal implications were pointed out) that on 9/11, not one of the eight pilots alleged to have been in the cockpits upon takeoff had a current, valid commercial pilot’s license.

    There can be no doubt that the federal government, among others, including Mossad, was involved in those attacks. The behavior of the Bush administration alone proves it. And his brother, Marvin, and his cousin, Wirt Walker III, were major stockholders/board members of a company originally called Securacom, later changed to Stratasec, that held security contracts for the WTC, United Airlines, and Dulles Airport at the time of 9/11. In fact, Walker was the CEO!

    If the federal government and the (fascist) Bush administration hadn’t been involved up to their hairlines, then for starters, Bush and everybody in Congress would have demanded an immediate and thorough-going investigation into all aspects of 9/11: namely, who was responsible, how every defense and intelligence agency in the country could have been paralyzed, who the people were who placed the thousands of “put” options on American and United airlines, as well as a number of other companies housed in the WTC, etc. etc. Remember that after the space shuttle blew up some years ago, there were three official investigations launched within a matter of days, over an incident that caused the deaths of SEVEN people. When close to 3,000 people were killed in NYC, Bush fought tooth and nail for over a year to prevent ANYTHING about 9/11 being investigated. Even the most third-rate gumshoe can tell you that when people try to prevent a crime from being investigated, AND ESPECIALLY THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, you can damn well bet that they were in on the crime. When he was finally forced to put together a commission, it was staffed with recycled Watergate hacks with amazing conflicts of interest, it was under-budgeted, and it made NO attempt to determine the CAUSES of 9/11. It was merely asked to make safety recommendations for the future, based on the pre-determined government story that they expected everybody to believe without question. Besides never looking at one piece of actual evidence connected with 9/11, they declared Osama bin Bogeyman guilty at the outset. And for the last 5 years that Bush was in office, if anybody could get him to say anything about OBL (who has been dead for years, by the way), it was that he didn’t know where he was, and that he wasn’t concerned about him. REALLY? The guy who he fingered for the attacks within a matter of hours on that date? It can’t get much more obvious as to what role the Bush administration played in this, especially when you remember that Bush continued to sit on his ass after being informed, by his own words, that the country was under “terrorist” attack, and that his Secret Service detail made no attempt to remove him from what would have been an incredibly vulnerable location, with his whereabouts public knowledge, if these attacks had actually been a surprise to them. You can smell the foreknowledge and complicity from ten miles away – UPWIND.

  4. But yeah, it’s good to press for trials, because a trial would allow information to come out, which is the whole problem, that the evidence has been kept secret [why? duh.]

    And big M, the majority working hypothesis among 9-11 researchers as far as I can tell is that the planes used on 9-11 were the planes that the Pentagon had leased from American and United at an earlier date for various military ‘tests,’ and that these planes were retrofitted during these ‘tests’ with remote control devices of the kind manufactured by Dov Zakheim’s [the Pentagon comptroller's] SPC corporation. This is why the “doomsday planes” were circling over the Pentagon when it was hit; they were relaying the guidance information, likely without their crews knowledge.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcM42FVyy1A

  5. Benjamin:

    If you read my explanation about the “planes,” and you still believe that 4 commercial airliners weighing 200,000 pounds apiece could crash within 80 minutes of each other and that everything could disappear, I don’t know what to say to you.

    I don’t give a damn about the majority working hypothesis. After seven years, it’s quite a scathing indictment of the public education system that millions of people could still believe this bullshit. There are things in this universe called laws of physics. It’s impossible that these planes could have just disappeared, or that the towers could be reduced to piles of rubble from plane crashes and kerosene fires. The criminals, along with their whores in the media, have managed to get everybody asking and debating the wrong questions. Misdirection is a tried and true technique, and quite successfully used against people who cannot shake off their media-induced brainwashing.

    I guess I shouldn’t have wasted my time.

  6. A group of scientists, also a scientist from the Uni of Copenhagen, have just recently established as a fact that nanothermite was used to bring down the three towers. Does OBL have access to nanothermite or only MOSSAD/CIA ?

  7. I remember at the time that Bundesnachrichtendienst-BND- said it was done by CIA & MOSSAD. The German Minister of Justice called Bush a Hitler and had to resign.

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