Comments on: Scott Horton http://antiwar.com/radio/2009/05/14/scott-horton-19/ Interviews of foreign policy experts, writers and activists. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:43:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bigeye http://antiwar.com/radio/2009/05/14/scott-horton-19/comment-page-1/#comment-4959 Bigeye Sat, 30 May 2009 00:43:26 +0000 http://antiwar.com/radio/?p=3030#comment-4959 Excellent interview. We have promoted Eric Margolis online since 1995 in the hope that U.S. policy makers would learn. Either they cannot, will not, or there truly does exist a "shadow government" in full control. The unasked question pertains to what motives underlie all imperialism, colonial wars, and empire building. Let's pursue this, Scott, in your next fine interview with Eric. Excellent interview. We have promoted Eric Margolis online since 1995 in the hope that U.S. policy makers would learn. Either they cannot, will not, or there truly does exist a “shadow government” in full control. The unasked question pertains to what motives underlie all imperialism, colonial wars, and empire building. Let’s pursue this, Scott, in your next fine interview with Eric.

]]> By: Michael Merhige http://antiwar.com/radio/2009/05/14/scott-horton-19/comment-page-1/#comment-4764 Michael Merhige Sat, 16 May 2009 02:39:37 +0000 http://antiwar.com/radio/?p=3030#comment-4764 The Nosenko defection and how we handled him was a classic example of CIA mischief, paranoia and arrogance. James Jesus Angleton finally had to leave in disgrace after he wrecked the CIA's counter intelligence- counter espionage efforts against the Soviets and ancillary targets. Nonetheless, whatever the failings of the CIA, and they are many, the Congress has much less to to its credit and much more to its shame. Torture insures "enemy" cohesiveness and esprit de corps, inferior interrogation technique and professionalism, misinformation from the subject being tortured and a waste of time and effort when fleeting knowlege is at a premium as its shelf life is short in many cases. Torture is the principal method for those with a simplistic mentalilty. This method of extracting knowledge will insure a myriad of responses and generally confuse those issues one is after. The Nosenko defection and how we handled him was a classic example of CIA mischief, paranoia and arrogance. James Jesus Angleton finally had to leave in disgrace after he wrecked the CIA’s counter intelligence- counter espionage efforts against the Soviets and ancillary targets. Nonetheless, whatever the failings of the CIA, and they are many, the Congress has much less to to its credit and much more to its shame.

Torture insures “enemy” cohesiveness and esprit de corps, inferior interrogation technique and professionalism, misinformation from the subject being tortured and a waste of time and effort when fleeting knowlege is at a premium as its shelf life is short in many cases. Torture is the principal method for those with a simplistic mentalilty. This method of extracting knowledge will insure a myriad of responses and generally confuse those issues one is after.

]]> By: the legendary Bill http://antiwar.com/radio/2009/05/14/scott-horton-19/comment-page-1/#comment-4763 the legendary Bill Sat, 16 May 2009 01:20:32 +0000 http://antiwar.com/radio/?p=3030#comment-4763 Quiz. Who was the only head of state in Europe to recognize the C.S.A. and actually addressed letters to "his eminence President Jefferson Davis of the Confederate States of America.." answer: Pope Pius IX. Quiz. Who was the only head of state in Europe to recognize the C.S.A. and actually addressed letters to “his eminence President Jefferson Davis of the Confederate States of America..”
answer: Pope Pius IX.

]]> By: the legendary Bill http://antiwar.com/radio/2009/05/14/scott-horton-19/comment-page-1/#comment-4762 the legendary Bill Sat, 16 May 2009 01:18:20 +0000 http://antiwar.com/radio/?p=3030#comment-4762 I'm still waiting for Sean Hannity's waterboarding..Any news on the cowardly bastard? I like Keith Olberman ( $1,000/sec that Hannity lasts and double that when he "admits it's torture.." ) but his grasp of history is lacking to say the least..The "Kaiser caused the 1st World War"..and we "should have arrested him after the war ended..." Worse still he speaks of the "evil of secession.." Not the evil of chattel slavery..no, the evil of secession..."rebellion"...Incredible ignorance...Maybe Texas secession would be ridiculous but 160 yrs after the fact it's worth noting that the C.S.A. ( Va. Tenn. Ark. Tx La. Miss. Alab. Ga. Fla. NC SC ) made a very viable country.. In fact they did..no, not a rebellion..We had our own President, our own Congress, a new Constitution, our own postal system..our own trade policy..( Somewhat lacking but ours..) I’m still waiting for Sean Hannity’s waterboarding..Any news on the cowardly bastard?
I like Keith Olberman ( $1,000/sec that Hannity lasts and double that when he “admits it’s torture..” ) but his grasp of history is lacking to say the least..The “Kaiser caused the 1st World War”..and we “should have arrested him after the war ended…” Worse still he speaks of the “evil of secession..” Not the evil of chattel slavery..no, the evil of secession…”rebellion”…Incredible ignorance…Maybe Texas secession would be ridiculous but 160 yrs after the fact it’s worth noting that the C.S.A. ( Va. Tenn. Ark. Tx La. Miss. Alab. Ga. Fla. NC SC ) made a very viable country..
In fact they did..no, not a rebellion..We had our own President, our own Congress, a new Constitution, our own postal system..our own trade policy..( Somewhat lacking but ours..)

]]> By: President Obama ‘Morphing Into His Predecessor’ Blocking Transparency and Prosecution of Torture « Little Alex in Wonderland http://antiwar.com/radio/2009/05/14/scott-horton-19/comment-page-1/#comment-4737 President Obama ‘Morphing Into His Predecessor’ Blocking Transparency and Prosecution of Torture « Little Alex in Wonderland Thu, 14 May 2009 18:33:04 +0000 http://antiwar.com/radio/?p=3030#comment-4737 [...] 14 May 09 | AntiWar Radio [...] [...] 14 May 09 | AntiWar Radio [...]

]]> By: eCAHNomics http://antiwar.com/radio/2009/05/14/scott-horton-19/comment-page-1/#comment-4736 eCAHNomics Thu, 14 May 2009 17:45:40 +0000 http://antiwar.com/radio/?p=3030#comment-4736 I don't know why they had to reverse engineer SERE. The CIA has long tortured and did many of the same thing to Nosenko, among others. Here's from his wiki: Interrogators from the Soviet Russia division suspected that that Nosenko was a KGB plant and thus Nosenko was seized by CIA officers in Washington and from 1964 to 1967 was held in solitary confinement in a CIA safe house in Clinton, Maryland. Nosenko was also subjected to sensory deprivation and was administered drugs because his CIA handlers believed he was still working in secret for the KGB. Agents also strapped wires to his head, telling him falsely that the device was an electroencephalograph which would allow them to read his mind, while the device was really one that read brainwave patterns. This was a form of psychological intimidation in order to help persuade him to "tell the truth". He was interrogated for 1,277 days. Here's some of the torture pics that Obama does not want you to see. Not for the squeamish. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/05/here-are-few-of-torture-photos-obama.html Torture occurred for all of the above: sadism, revenge, but false confessions are right up there at the top. Getting good information was on the list, but close to the bottom. Ooops. Read Overthrow by Kinzer to find out how the U.S. military tortured Philippines during the insurgency after we invaded them. U.S. troops stuck bamboo down their throats, poured in water (preferably fetid) and then jumped on their stomachs. Long before the CIA took up the torture mantel. I don’t know why they had to reverse engineer SERE. The CIA has long tortured and did many of the same thing to Nosenko, among others. Here’s from his wiki: Interrogators from the Soviet Russia division suspected that that Nosenko was a KGB plant and thus Nosenko was seized by CIA officers in Washington and from 1964 to 1967 was held in solitary confinement in a CIA safe house in Clinton, Maryland. Nosenko was also subjected to sensory deprivation and was administered drugs because his CIA handlers believed he was still working in secret for the KGB. Agents also strapped wires to his head, telling him falsely that the device was an electroencephalograph which would allow them to read his mind, while the device was really one that read brainwave patterns. This was a form of psychological intimidation in order to help persuade him to “tell the truth”. He was interrogated for 1,277 days.

Here’s some of the torture pics that Obama does not want you to see. Not for the squeamish.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/05/here-are-few-of-torture-photos-obama.html

Torture occurred for all of the above: sadism, revenge, but false confessions are right up there at the top. Getting good information was on the list, but close to the bottom.

Ooops. Read Overthrow by Kinzer to find out how the U.S. military tortured Philippines during the insurgency after we invaded them. U.S. troops stuck bamboo down their throats, poured in water (preferably fetid) and then jumped on their stomachs. Long before the CIA took up the torture mantel.

]]> By: Paul Alexander http://antiwar.com/radio/2009/05/14/scott-horton-19/comment-page-1/#comment-4733 Paul Alexander Thu, 14 May 2009 15:01:17 +0000 http://antiwar.com/radio/?p=3030#comment-4733 Scott, the antiwar.com one, you're the best man! You're informed passion on the subjects you cover is exactly what is needed! Keep it up! You give this unschooled dilettante hope that one day I'll be able to wrap my head around all of this shit. Scott, the antiwar.com one, you’re the best man! You’re informed passion on the subjects you cover is exactly what is needed! Keep it up! You give this unschooled dilettante hope that one day I’ll be able to wrap my head around all of this shit.

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