Scott Horton Interviews John V. Walsh

Scott Horton, September 04, 2009

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John V. Walsh, frequent contributor to CounterPunch.org, discusses Obama’s propagandized meeting with the Bizarro World Cindy Sheehan, how the antiwar Left lacks the ideological passion and clarity of libertarians, the permanent cold war mentality in Washington D.C. and the widening divide between Democratic Party leaders and rank and file activists.

MP3 here. (24:31)

John V. Walsh is a scientist who lives in Cambridge, Mass. He is a frequent contributor to CounterPunch.org and Antiwar.com.

31 Responses to “John V. Walsh”

  1. [...] We Need a New Antiwar Coalition: Peace is the #1 Issue John Walsh interviewed by Scott Horton [...]

  2. Great interview. Great subject matter. The foundation of this discussion is anti-militarism. More of a mouthful than "anti-war" but more to the point. Scott also makes a good point when discussing how a person changes once they reach the White House – often at the expense of their humanity.

    It makes me admire Reagan all the more for the conjones he displayed in 1983. When 241 servicemen where killed in the barracks bombing in Beirut President Reagan removed all of the remaining troops 4 months later. No reason to stay. No reason to continue sacrificing American soldiers. No repercussions for an orderly advance to the rear.

  3. The end of that interview came out of nowhere.

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  5. Great stuff. I can tell you we are doing less and less mission in Iraq, Wondering why the heck we are still here.

    Be cautious of the right new critics of the Afghan war. Do we forget the raging debate about timetables and the whole GOP presidential contest. These new rumbling are thing more than anti Obama tricks. Which makes me hate them even more.

    New listener here, telling my friends.

  6. So, when are we reviving the Anti-Imperialist League? This would be an undertaking that only we could make work, since the antiwar activists on the Left can't get any traction when their man is in the White House, just like we can't get any traction on the Right when Republicans are in charge. We have to work together, and solely on the issue of war and empire.

  7. It is becoming clear that the "Anti-War" movement in America is simply a pro-Obama, pro-Democrat fraud. These ridiculous wars are bigger than ever, yet now we are silent. This happened during Vietnam as well. It's truly embarrassing. Obama is nothing more than Bush III.

  8. Can anyone honestly argue that the Anti-War movement has been as aggressive towards Obama as they were towards the last idiot? This is hypocrisy of the highest order.

  9. Can anyone honestly argue that the Anti-War movement has been as aggressive towards Obama as they were towards the last idiot? This is hypocrisy of the highest order.

    Why do we hear no criticism of Obama for continuing to funnel millions to Halliburton and KBR?

  10. Damn straight, Ike! We sure as hell need an Anti-Imperialist League today.

    President Obama The Divine, aka The Great One, had a nice, restful vacation. That's just great. It's good to see a war-fightin' man get away from it all among the Beautiful People on Martha's Vineyard. That said, it's hard to understand why The Great One couldn't spare a fraction of his holy time to meet with Cindy Sheehan.

    My compliments to John V. Walsh. (By the way, his 2005 story at CounterPunch.org–"Al Franken Is a Big Fat Phony"–sums up that fraud nicely. I'm a Minnesotan, and I didn't vote for Franken.)

    That said, it's hard to understand why The Great One couldn't devote a fraction of his holy time to meet with Cindy Sheehan. All I

  11. Could not agree more with all that has been said here.

    Orville, I am from Minnesota as well and I sure as hell did not vote for that sad, pathetic joke Al Franken.

    I had been the Green Party candidate for US Senate 2006. But could not get enough help to even get on the ballot in 2008, so i was an official write in candidate.

    I was abandoned by the “anti-war’ movement in Minnesota (Anti-War Committee, IPAC etc etc because I pointed out the reality of the Democratic party war machine. All of us who did point that out have been proven right.

    Oh and we are building a REAL anti-war movement here.. Without the Democratic apologists.

  12. John Walsh and Scott Horton are certainly correct in noting the hesitant if non-existent actions of the left in not speaking out against Obama's wars in the Middle East. However, I have discovered that the libertarians here in the Pacific Northwest seem much less concerned with the fate of the people who have been subjected to American aggression in the Middle East as they have in expressing their hysteria and fear that the government will somehow ruin an already ravaged health care system that has seen 45 to 50 million Americans have to go without health insurance while 18,000 Americans die because they are unable to obtain that insurance. When I attempt to point this out to them the inevitable response is that they have insurance so why should I have to worry about those people. It is almost as if they are channeling a character from a Charles Dickens story by saying that if those people are to die it is better that they do it quickly in order to decrease the surplus population.

    Again, what I have found living in this part of the country is that the main concern of many of the libertarians here [and it appears that everybody and his mother is a libertarian in this corner of the country] is to keep the government out of the health care system [despite the fact that the quality of health care in this country is severely broken due to the profit driven insurance companies as evidenced by the fact that the WHO ranks the United States 37th in terms of quality health care as compared to other countries around the world] and that they express little, if any, concern for the fact that U.S. troops are getting blown to bits for absolutely no justifiable reason and also seem to have no interest at all in the fact that the U.S. Air Force is slaughtering innocent Afghans civilians by dropping 500 lb. and 2000 lb. bombs on them.

  13. I think that he did this for the sake of Americans, because neither the neocons or neolibs controlled him. Afterwards, he sure got kicked around by his vice-president, Bush, Sr.
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  14. So sorry to hear that Erroll. I am afraid that that is true of those in the Hoosier state, as well.

  15. I agree with everygthing John Walsh and scott Horton said in this interview. BRAVO!!!

  16. Where were we Ron Paul libertarians when Cindy Sheehan needed us? We should have provided her with air support from our Peace & Sound Money blimp floating over Massachusetts Bay. But instead we were packing heat at health care hullabaloos and acting like the LP of the past 40 years trying not to scare conservatives.

    Rand Paul and Peter Schiff should take their donations millions $, rent a Peace & Sound Money blimp, and have Cindy Sheehan lead a steadily growing ground attack following the blimp around as it taunts Obama, various Fed Reserve banks, military bases, etc.

    John Walsh said something about the left depending on the libertarians and populist-anti-statist right to provide the passion to the anti-war and pro-individual rights causes.

    But the libertarians and the anti-statist right have NEVER delivered. The most momentum we ever achieved on this was Ron Pauls 4 policies that he got Nader, McKinney, Baldwin, and Barr to agree to. That should have been a launching pad for a new anti-imperialist league movement, but Ron Paul and his movement have been sucked back into the left/right BS. If Rand Paul and Peter Schiff announce a Peace & Sound Money blimp, then the power of libertarian ideas might get a last ditch chance to be heard before its too late.

  17. Yes! Another great phrase, Scott.

    O'bama, Bush, Clinton – mass murderers. Let's add Truman, Johnson, Wilson, Lincoln, and Roosevelt to teh list, too.

  18. I'm tired of people bashing the "anti-war left". Many of us have been warning people of Obama well before Libertarians did — just ask Justin Raimondo. Last I heard, Libertarians "support the troops" — that's the ultimate hypocrisy – "I support the warrior, not the war" — do you "support the rapist, but not the rape"? Many of us in the "anti-war left" don't support the troops, so get off your high-horse. MoveOn, UFPJ are just fronts for the Democrats – don't confuse them with those of us working to end US imperialism.

  19. Seth, I didn't hear any mention of "anti-war left". I heard criticism of the Beltway Libertarians, the Progressives, UFPJ, Move ON, Code Pink and the Democrats. The point of the show in my estimation is that maybe people could set aside these labels and form an anti war movement. In fact Scott wishes he'd see Nader, Paul, G. McGovern, the libertarian Justin Raimondo, Greenwald, Will and Pat Buchanan on the same stage.

  20. "Where were we Ron Paul libertarians when Cindy Sheehan needed us?"
    Apparently, judging by the videos, they were among the few that were there. Sheehan was given time on Jack Blood's show, Scott's show, Alex Jones, Bermas. I must have missed her on Air America.
    I think a lot of people couldn't make it because they are broke.

  21. Research the "COINTELPRO" operation of the USG. They have been infiltrating and co-opting organizations that reject USG policies for years. They are still at it and have had years of practice to perfect their craft.

  22. Re-Walsh and Hortons' comments about the sociopathic or 'Elmer Gantry'-like traits of politicians in our sham system – where they can mimic the emotions of others ('I feel your pain') or appropriate the sufferings of others to serve their agenda. The medical term is 'Munchhausen Syndrome By Proxy' – where suffering in actually created (up to and including murder) by the sociopaths so they can then come on the scene as 'heros' or at least be the recipients of sympathy and attention by the official community. Until Obama arrived on the scene, Clinton was the master of 'Political Munchausen by Proxy' politics. Now Obama sets up a distraught mother who lost her son in Afghanistan for his 'photo-op' to counter the consequential activism of Cindy Sheehan! Bravo Maestro Barack! How morally repugnant!

  23. By the way the libertarians do not have a monopoly on principled criticism of Obama and the wars: Veteran independent leftist intellectual, James Petras' penetrating essays on Obama the Great Hoax and Obama's Committment to Israel, War and Finance Capital – preceded Obama's inauguration and have been circulating in English and other languages. Petras yanked the phoney clothes off of the emperor long before the rest of us and provided a conceptual frameword for understanding the reactionary, militaristic nature of the Democratic Party.

  24. "By the way the libertarians do not have a monopoly on principled criticism of Obama"

    True and perhaps they should tone that down a bit because it doesn't really help.
    So, will we see a single issue anti-war movement?

  25. Appreciate this direct reference to the brilliant, scholarly, independent James Petras. I am still hoping that Scott Horton will have him on his show. Talk about being antiwar and anti-imperialist!

  26. Scott – Listen to Marycatherine. How about interviewing a committed, life-long leftist anti-imperialist like James Petras, whose dead-on critique of Barack Obama predated the election and inauguration and prepared us for viewing Obama's policies as little more than 'Bush III'? Its easy to criticize the phony-left shills for the Democratic Party, why not open your program up to a real left analysis of the empire from an American anti-imperialist forged in decades of struggle and scholarship?

  27. Robin, I think Scott has done interviews with, how shall I say it.. the "honest Left". In any case he often has interviews with people he doesn't see eye to eye on every issue but I like your suggestion anyway. In fact I think it would be most useful to have a designed series of interviews each with someone who self-identifies with a different "ism".

  28. wow its nice to see so many people postin up on the show. alot of new listeners i guess.
    as for Scott interviewing far leftist. i think he has kept things fairly "balanced" although being a far lefty myself i think most of the really radical left unfortunately have the same hang ups with as the far right. that is not being able to put the conflicts aside and work tougher on what we all agree on.

    http://www.scotthortonshow.com

  29. wow its nice to see so many people postin up on the show. alot of new listeners i guess.
    as for Scott interviewing far leftist. i think he has kept things fairly "balanced" although being a far lefty myself i think most of the really radical left unfortunately have the same hang ups with going on the show as the far right. that is not being able to put the conflicts aside and work tougher on what we all agree on.

    Erroll, what you and so many others in this so-called "debate" seem to so clearly miss is that the insurance companies AND the Feds are in cahoots to create the very mess we're in right now. Its the old adage of the pot calling the kettle black. You have the government getting its nose into everything in the health-care industry all the while it gets its fair share of kickbacks in the form of campaign contributions and later you'll find these same pols sitting on boards or drawing salaries from big pharma, big insurance etc. etc. etc. Do you want to see things become more affordable? I sure as hell do. But until you get government AND its sugar daddy regulations AND anti-competitive legislation written in cahoots WITH these very insurance companies out of the way you can forget ever seeing anything better or cheaper because the very crooks responsible for this debacle now claim to have the answers. This is hypocrisy of the first order but you seem to have drunk their poisonous kool-aid gladly. Just follow the money and stop listening to that cast of criminals and their tongue wagging lies.

  30. Paul – there are committed intellectuals from the left who will seriously talk to anyone (except Red-baiters) because the issues are too important and the lives and security of millions of people have been disrupted by the US militarist empire. Petras has readers from a broad international and domestic spectrum – including former military and state department officials sick of the imperial policies as they relate to the Middle East. Its not an 'ism', it is a consistent, coherent analytical framework and dogged accumulation of facts.

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