Scott Horton Interviews Sibel Edmonds and John M. Cole

Scott Horton, October 26, 2009

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Former FBI contract-translator-turned whistleblower Sibel Edmonds and former FBI counter-intelligence officer John M. Cole discuss State Department cooperation with the “mujahedeen” in the Central Asian Turkic countries through the Turkish military and intelligence in the time before 9/11, a State Department order to release suspicious Uzbeks and Turks after the attack, the neocons’ and realists’ joint-attempt to negotiate the invasion of Iraq from Turkey in the summer of 2001, Edmonds’s overall credibility and level of access to information in her role as “language specialist” for the FBI, espionage within the FBI and why it continues unabated, Cole’s “conservative estimate” of 125 worthwhile investigations into Israeli espionage in the U.S. which quashed by political pressure from above, Edmonds’s accusations that Richard Perle, Douglas Feith and Marc Grossman have been participating in the stealing and fencing of nuclear secrets to Turkish and Israeli agents for years, Grossman’s outing of CIA front-company “Brewster-Jennings” to a Turkish diplomat in August, 2001 – nearly 2 years before the Valerie Plame scandal – and it’s destruction as a result, the grey area where legitimate lobbying by foreign governments crosses into espionage and criminality, Cole’s call for prosecutions and Edmonds’s intention to turn her new news Website, BoilingFrogsPost.com, into a home for journalists who want to practice their craft without partisanship or political pressure.

MP3 here. (1:17:21)

Sibel Edmonds is a former FBI-contract language specialist turned whistleblower against government incompetence and corruption. The ACLU has described her as the most gagged person in U.S. history.

John M. Cole, Former Veteran Intelligence Operations Specialist, worked for 18 years in the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division as an Intelligence Operations specialist.

108 Responses to “Sibel Edmonds and John M. Cole”

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  2. A group of 9 scientists, one of them Niels Harrit from the Uni of Copenhagen, have examined the dust from WTC and concluded that it wasn´t the planes that brought down the towers but 10 up to 100 tons of nano-thermite placed in the buildings. Science is science. Niels Harrit was asked on Danish TV 2 how it´s possible to bring all that nano-thermite in and place it on each landing without anybody noticing. He answered, "You have to ask head of security that question". It was an Israeli firm, wasn´t it ? Who has got nano-thermite ?

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    http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm

  4. It's a shame Scott Horton pooh-poohs all sceptical study into 9/11. The case for gummint conspiracy is pretty darn incontrovertible.

  5. In the film 'Fahrenheit 9/11', Michael Moore pays attention to the round-up of bin Laden's brothers in America straight after 9/11 and the fact that they were immediately flown out rather than interrogated. Moore seems to put it down to the personal and business relationships of George W. Bush and the Saudis. I'm surprised that Sibel has never been asked to comment on whether she agrees with Moore or can add information to his story.

  6. Hello, this is different. The group of 9 scientists, one of them Niels Harrit from the Uni of Copenhagen, have spent two years examining the dust from WTC. And again: SCIENCE IS SCIENCE. It´s a FACT that nano-thermite was used to bring down the three towers. The third tower wasn´t hit by any plane, remember ? And they calculate that 10-100 tons of nano-thermite was placed in the buildings. Who was head of security ?

  7. Claus,

    I think I read where Marvin P. Bush and Wirt D. Walker III – George Bush's brother and cousin were two of the lead principles in the now defunct security company named 'Stratesec', who had the security contract on the towers on and before September 11, 2001. Morgan Reynold's outstanding article for http://www.lewrockwell.com titled 'Why Did Those Skyscrapers Collapse?" a few years ago, discussed this and many other interesting facts about 9-11.

    I think I've read in several other articles that Stratesec did have Israeli connections, and that the security at all of the airports involved were also Israeli security companies.

    Just a coincidence, though. Same goes for the insider trading on those airline stocks that were supposedly traced to Israel.

    Repeat after me: 9-11 was done solely by goat herders who lived in caves in Afghanistan who all had goat dookie under their dirty toenails, and any assertions otherwise are simply wild eyed conspiracy theories being spread by people wearing tin foil hats – and who are all Anti-Semites.

  8. What makes anyone think that the USG has not infiltrated AW.com? That is their standard M.O. To co-opt any serious threat to their power and propaganda….

  9. excellent interview

  10. What makes anyone think that the USG has not infiltrated AW.com???

  11. Mr. Dawson, you are one of very few people who really gets it. Feel free to contact me.

    Sibel Edmonds

  12. You're right. Obviously, we're all a bunch of cops. Israeli ones.

    -Scott

  13. NO they found nano thermite which is meaningless because all that is is a fancy word for common rust with aluminum. And on the nano level OF course thats going to be there it the most common two metals. If you were going to bring a tower down the easiest way would be C4, or just blow the base out with a truck bomb the way they tried to do in 93. Thermite is very hard to ignite. But the way t came down shows that something was swftly knocking out floors from the top down and the bottom up. I'm going to go with C4 and TNT reason being the Israel were caught with vans full of both on the day of 9/11.

  14. The last person who accused me of being a cop was a crack head in the back of my taxi cab.

    –Scott

  15. I wouldn't trust Perle, Feith, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Libby and Cheney, etc as far as I could throw them. In my opinion they are not only war criminals but American Traitors!!!! Frank Gaffney is the Biggest Traitor of late throwing award dinners for war criminals and traitors with politiicans like Jon Kyl clapping and smiling in the audience.

    These people need to be arrested and tried and then let the chips fall where they may. I am against the death penalty so I do not seek it against them. A cold cell for the rest of their lives would be most fitting for all these people and their collaborators from media like Judy Miller to Frank Gaffney to Jane Harman to Joe Lieberman to John McCain to Jon Kyl to William Kristol to George Tenet to Dan Senor to the major newspapers. People like Charles Krauthammer, John Burns, Eliot Cohen, Victor Davis Hanson, Robert Kagan, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Neal Boortz, George Will, etc are all collaborators who should be brought up on war crimes and being traitors to the United States of America!

  16. Then Scott Horton has to explain how the columns/beams were cut at a 45-degree angle, as the debris behind the famous photo of the firefighters shows. All I would need is one other instance when a fire that brought down a building produced steel debris cut at that angle. Hell, any angle. (We only have photographic evidence because the real evidence was hauled off to China.)

  17. "to co-opt any serious threat to their power and propaganda…. "

    well since anti war is basically a news archive and op-eds the, 2 options are that they are changing the news stories they get (and id asume the AP is far more likely to be co-opted ). or the very large variety of columnist are government spies. both are fairly absurd considering the "the serious threats' from the antiwar movement. like the fact that if we keep this up maybe we can shorten the af-pak fiasco to a mere 30 years

  18. All you 9/11 blowhards need to realize there are bad things that the government does in real life( not fantasy). So there is no reason to go inventing falsehoods to dislike the government, there are plenty of real things to get involved in to bring our government in check.

  19. you mean the "the goat herders" that beat back the soviets on its own border.
    "Repeat after me".. ok
    9-11 was done solely by goat herders(armed and trained by the worlds top intelligence agencies) who lived in caves in Afghanistan(not that any of those involved in 9-11 were afghans) who all had goat dookie under their dirty toenails.(since we all know any one who is not living in a major metropolis has no capacity for critical thinking)

    who was pulling the strings from behind the scenes is total speculation. don't you think if they were going to go threw all this trouble they would not put up some foil like making sure all companies involved led to a single country.

    why not say it was the turks… get all the mid east wars they want and deflect all suspicion to Israel.
    how the building collapsed, who perpetrated it, who organized it, and who benefits from it. are all different questions and the catch all "it was an inside job" seems just as absurd as the "devil in the smoke" conspiracy

  20. If anyone doubts that nano-thermite and not the planes brought down the three towers, do contact one of the scientists who have examined some of the dust for two years and written about their research. They are serious scientists. If you doubt what I tell you, please take contact to Niels Harrit, Uni of Copenhagen. Israel benefitted most as Bush took out their worst enemy. I remember at the time that BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst) suggested that MOSSAD and CIA did it together. But as Socrates said, "The only thing we know is that we don´t know anything". One thing we now know for sure, however. Nano-thermite and not the planes brought down the towers. Science is science, don´t you agree ? But of course, it doesn´t matter that 16 US Intelligence Agencies say that Iran isn´t developing nuclear weapons. Obama knows better. Why believe some scientists ? Only that it´s hard evidence also known as facts. Just read their scientific findings. Niels Harrit, Uni of Copenhagen. He was interviewed on Danish TV 2.

  21. "Israel benefited most as Bush took out their worst enemy."
    what about iran and turkey since they will most likely divide up iraq oil between them, after all if iraq fall apart to quote a Turkish general "there is no Kurdistan."

  22. The link doesn't work!! Please fix, this is important information!!

  23. i could not have said it better the end

  24. Does anyone suggest that OBL has access to nano-thermite ? OBL is not wanted by the FBI as they have no evidence whatsoever against him. The very first point in the very first Bush cabinet meeting was: How to gain access to Iraqi oil. That made the energy secretary, O´Neill resign. Taliban were guests of honor with the oil people in Texas – before they signed an oil contract with an Argentinian firm. The pipeline from Turkmenistan is to be build from next year. You must have soldiers on the ground that it isn´t blown up. As Alan Greenspan said, "the invasion of Iraq was largely about oil". And the same goes for Afghanistan. The rest is BS propaganda. They learned something from Dr. Joseph Goebbels in Washington. Associated Press !

  25. Jake, the down load is very slow. It took me 2.5 minutes to download. Have no idea why.

    –Angela, Antiwar Radio

  26. I think this argument of Haarack's is also Scott's reason for dismissing 9/11 truth stuff. Why cloud the picture with hard-to-believe accusations against the government, when they are committing such obvious, indisputable crimes already? I would say there is a reason though – the myth of 9/11 does keep millions Americans supporting the empire's war crimes and living in fear of the Arabs, instead of the appropriate fear of their own rulers.
    But it's a legitimate argument he makes. What is not legitimate is referring to reams of documented facts disproving the government's story as "falsehoods" without evidence to back you up.

  27. [...] Sibel and John Cole appeared in a joint interview with Scott Horton. They discuss Central Asia, counter-intelligence investigations into Israeli activity in the US, [...]

  28. Quote:"They learned something from Dr. Joseph Goebbels in Washington"

    Not only did they learn something from Dr Goebbels, they came up with him in the first place. Many topranking Nazis were employed by the US after the war. WW2 is directly related to what is going on today. It is always about theft ……

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  30. Sibel you can get my contact from Scott.

    I'm glad I "get it" because I was just talking about your case Monday on another radio show. (I've been on Scott show before too, but to talk about Russian oligarchs.) It's like you said in the interview. Americans don't know anything about Central Asia. They really don't know much about the old USSR either. Russia's old minister of fuel and energy Vagit Alekperov's LUKoil (Langepas, Urai and Kogalym) in Azerbaijan is what originally butted out the Western bids on Bakku and foiled plans for the control of the BTC line. That's another reason for the presence in Turkey and Azerbijan. It's wasn't until the Azer coup and the US putting Mercs in Azerbaijan that plan could move forward. It's part of why we're over there. (an Perle set up Blackwater with it's first real job to guard those lines) back in the 90s. But a typical American, even an education intelligent person will still say, Where is Azerbaijan? And who is Alekperov? What's a BTC?
    This is where we have to start explaining things so I feel your pain, in having to give out so much preliminary background before you can even start on an issue that it would usually eat up a common radio interview.

    Part of that is the public's fault but most of it is because it's just not in the press. And the media and public school systems ignore it. So people don't even know what to ask.

    I'd also like the vouch for translators. I'm good friends with a Translator in Japan and I can tell you that half the time they are translating and half the time they are educating the people who are supposed to know things on the area they are involved in, on what is going on. They know more about the subjects than the agents sometimes. Our intelligence is not as professional as Hollywood makes it out to be.

  31. I vote for tar and feathers :) Gaffney really is shameless, between him Kissinger and Perle and can't decide who is more demonic.

  32. I said from the start and was vindicated, that the anthrax attacks initially blamed on the 911 hijackers was not part of that attack. Someone had that sitting ready. Someone knew… But i'm not going to hijack this thread by getting into a 911 piss fight. I think maybe it was allowed to happen. Not the total destruction but the planes hitting. Not sure if they all knew what would happen after.It's healthy to allow questions.

  33. Many thanks to Sibel and, of course, John Cole and Scott Horton.

    I would like Sibel to address the ongoing connection between the "Pro-Israel" lobby and Turkey in terms of their colluding to deny the Armenian Genocide and to stop passage of an Armenian Genocide resolution in the US Congress. This subject has been written and talked about, but not enough.

    It caused an international sensation 2 years ago when the Anti-Defamation League's connection to Turkey and genocide denial was exposed by Armenian Americans (see http://www.NoPlaceForDenial.com for the full and ongoing story). The Turkish ambassador was on vacation and had to fly back to Israel for consultations when this story broke.

    The evidence for collusion betwen Turkey and the "Pro-Israel" lobby can be found here in black and white: http://npfdinfo.blogspot.com/2007/10/press-kit-hi

    By the way, don't believe the hype about "reconcilation" between Armenia and Turkey. But that's another subject.

  34. Here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl-kaZIsXJE

  35. If nano-thermite is in the dust then everyone in the international intelligence community already knows the truth. Why would foreign intelligence not test the dust? Of course they would.

  36. I would say Scott Horton has to explain fuckall.

    Here's a good explanation:

    How about they were cut at a 45-degree angle BECAUSE IT'S WHAT THE CLEANUP CREW DID. Or is that too plausible?

    All this 9/11 super-conspiracy bollocks is so fracking retarded. Any 10-year old with an ounce of comprehension knows that you don't conspire to drive planes into buildings then blow them up for good measure with using a failure-prone process, where additionally you need a least a month of conspirators hauling large boxes through the whole building and wiring shit up.

    You can't put it better than this: http://www.debunking911.com/conspiracy.htm

  37. thanks for the nitty gritty RyanWilson

  38. I'm sorry, but the aerosolization of the buildings looks completely natural. That low level beams were found 400 to 600 feet away is just a product of gravitational collapse. It was all way up in the sky and very heavy, so it's cool that it powderized. No need for extra energy for it to become spewing free falling powder. It is Physics 101. Plus, how many men could have run in there with cannonball shaped bombs with fuses on them, placed the shiny black bowling ball sized bombs near beams, lit the fuses and run away all without being seen? So you see, a deception would be impossible. Debunked!

    Add to that what we know already, that huge conspiracies are impossible because someone would talk. That's why that old lie about there being a Catholic priest abuse conspiracy is total bunk. In 1,000 years some sickened insider would have talked. But none did, and no reporter, prosecutor or cop did either. So, it must be untrue. Besides, the alleged victims were always labeled kooks or disgruntled people with deep pathetic hatred for the church and as we can see from 911, which was not a conspiracy, that people who suggest that it is are labeled kooks who hate their government. So, obviously the church scandal is also false; otherwise why would these people have been ridiculed and scorned and dismissed by the overall mass of people. That is the treatment reserved for liars. That is why politicians, when they lie, are always treated with similar contempt and shunning. This is why they usually tell the truth.

  39. glad to hear that someone investigated the possibility of explosives being used at the WTC buildings.

    the most incontrovertible evidence that explosives, i.e., controlled demolition, was used on 9/11 can be obtained by using one of the first physics relationships to be identified (by Galileo in the 16th centruy): the distance an object travels in a gravitational field is directly proportional to the square of the time,
    y = 1/2 gt^2. Note: 1/2 g is the proportionality constant.

    Rewriting the equation to solve for time gives t = square root (2y/g).

    Since we know the heights of the former WTC towers (415 & 417 meters) . Substituting 415 meters in for y (the height in the y-direction) and 9.8 m/s^2 for g (acceleration due to gravity), one obtains:
    t = square root (830 meters/9.8meters/seconds^2)=square root (84 seconds^2)=9.2 seconds.

    Since the world witnessed the buildings collapse in a time of approximately 10 seconds, the time it took for both towers to fall took was very nearly the same amount of time that it would have taken a rock to fall if it was dropped at the same time that the buildings began to collapse.

    there is only one possible physically realistic explanation for this phenomenon: the buildings were brought down using controlled demolition.

    the fact that the buildings came down in 10 seconds is a fact that no one disputes.

    the only way that a building could collapse in the same amount of time as a rock falling–without any hindrance other than air–is if each floor experienced no structural forces below it. this is only possible through controlled demolition.

  40. It's so funny the way everyone is careful to say that this spy racket involves "Turkish and Israeli" agents, implying some kind of equivalence in terms of the influence and subversive activities of Turkish and Israeli loyalists in Washington. Yeah, right, we're all supposed to believe this is equally impelled by the interests of Israel and Turkey. We all quake in our boots at the thought of the Turkey Lobby. Get real. This is all about Israel. Turkey is only benefiting tangentially because of its cozy relationship with Israel. Turkey is no more than Israel's little bribed helper in the ongoing subversion of US foreign policy to serve the interests of our parasitic "ally", the terrorist state of Israel.

  41. I have asked this question many times. What would have happened if the WTC had not collapsed? Would we have gone to war? Think about it. The collapse and the subsequent deaths, in particular the deaths of the rescue workers, made this an unforgettable moment, the "new Pearl Harbor" the PNAC creeps were looking for.
    You don't leave much to chance when you are planning a world war.

  42. Hello,

    As an American of Armenian decent, I will never again stereo type Turks. I have been following her story on AW, for years, and was most amused, that it was the Krikorian deposition which helped bring this to light. (bradblog.com)

    This women has tremendous curage to do what she is doing. An example of a true American patriate.

    One must also remember there are other people in the FBI who say she is 100% correct. What is their vendeda??

    Thank you,

    John Kassabian

  43. This interview has nothing to do with the mechanism that brought down the WTC. Please cut it out with all this 9/11 truth spam. Did you truthers even listen to the interview?

  44. John Kassabian, you are correct. It was the Krikorian case that brought out these more recent discussions about the Turkish lobby.

    If you want to know Sibel’s position regarding the Armenian Genocide and the Kurdish situation, check this, also from the day of the deposition for Krikorian:

    http://rastibini.blogspot.com/2009/08/sibel-edmonds-on-armenian-genocide-and.html

    And to David Boyajian, of course the Turkish lobby has its great ally in the Israel lobby, particularly as it pursues its genocide denial campaign. But the Turkish lobby would be nowhere today if it hadn’t been nurtured in its beginnings by the Israeli lobby.

    The Turkish lobby spends a lot of money on genocide denial. Recently, the Armenian Genocide Denial program at the University of Utah received almost $1 million from the Turkish Coalition of America who, in turn, received the money from the Turkish Cultural Foundation.

    If the Turkish lobby wants to insist on making genocide denial information a requirement of teaching the Armenian Genocide in US schools, such as they tried in Massachusetts, then it’s only fair that schools also be required to provide genocide denial information on the holocaust from organizations like the Institute for Historical Review.

    If the crackpots who want to deny what happened to the Armenians in Anatolia from the 1890s on insist on spreading their propaganda, then let the crackpots who want to deny what happened to Jews in Europe from the 1930s on.

    By the way, this interview is one of the best to date on Sibel’s case.

  45. HarHar Haarack is allowed to make derogatory comments about those who question the “official” 911 explanantion (“All you 9/11 blowhards…”) but anyone who tries to counter his statement with a legitmate response is blocked and deleted because whatever they say does not agree with Horton’s theorizations. Now the format on the response section has been changed to omit replies to individual posts… Freedom of Speech does not exist here.

    Right on, X174, Horton probably got D’s in math class.

  46. Ad Hominem attacks… Because you, Mr. HarHar have no way to refute the evidence that the building were demolished with explosives… http://www.ae911truth.org

    Go have a glass of USG Kool-Aid with Horton.

  47. God, you truthers are so fucking stupid. I almost can't believe it.

    -Scott Horton

  48. facepalm.jpg

    http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm

    "In every photo and every video, you can see columns far outpacing the collapse of the building. Not only are the columns falling faster than the building but they are also falling faster than the debris cloud which is ALSO falling faster than the building. This proves the buildings fell well below free fall speed. That is, unless the beams had a rocket pointed to the ground.

    Just look at any video you like and watch the perimeter columns.

    Deceptive videos stop the timer of the fall at 10:09 when only the perimeter column hits the ground and not the building itself. If you notice, the building just finishes disappearing behind the debris cloud which is still about 40 stories high."

  49. Scott knows the war on terror is fake; Truthers believe it was fake from the start. Not so far apart.

  50. [...] Scott Horton Interviews Sibel Edmonds and John M. Cole regarding foreign infiltration in US intelligence agencies http://antiwar.com/radio/2009/10/26/sibel-edmonds-and-john-m-cole/ [...]

  51. what about a test of the "rods from god" dropped right through the center of the main columns

  52. absolutely correct why would the one country that blocks the Russians from access to the Mediterranean. the one country that has the both abundant ports and the high ground of the middle east, the one country that controls the source of just about all water in the middle east.
    why would they have any power or interest in the American imerial court

  53. HA! in all serious though i wonder if these are truthers or perhaps they are just trying to tie every thing sibel does to 9/11 conspiracy to keep any one who might be intrested in this to look the other way

  54. "That is why politicians, when they lie, are always treated with similar contempt and shunning".

    Guesty, you're a funny guy. You see, the way it works is this: When politicians lie, they get RE-ELECTED.

    "This is why they usually tell the truth". Well… like I said, Mr. G, you're a VERY funny guy! Even the POLITICIANS reading that are laughing!

  55. here is more nitty gritty that I did http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl-kaZIsXJE

    and here is some extra on the DOD at the time. Because Thomas White, GOrdon England and James Roche all should have their feet to the fire as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCraLQoy41I

    enjoy
    Ryan Dawson

  56. here is more nitty gritty that I did http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl-kaZIsXJE

    Also Vietnam and Afghanistan were not about trying to win wars. They were about making perpetual conflict for perpetual profit. The longer the better. Not for the nation (the populous), but for the arms industries that run the foreign policy.

  57. well definitely not professionals..

  58. Both links are dead

  59. "With friends like these, who the #&$! needs COINTELPRO?" – Propaghandi

    -Scott

  60. Yes, COINTELPRO tries to make the truthers look like idiots and some seize on whatever bs they come up with to derail the movement to shuck their responsibility to look into an obvious truth that is so in your face you would have to do everything you could to deny it. So when COINTELPRO goes on about space beams and "no planes" and holograms or conflates an architectural or physics observation with faked moon landings and chupacabra involvement, people like you are right there to snap it up and go, "see, they're all idiots."

    You're just like the smart thoughtful people who listened to the church officials use Occam's razor to explain how kids have the darndest imaginations and you snap that right up and go, "I knew it, kids make s@#^ up; how dare they make such hideous allegations towards our beloved priests. Let's shun and ridicule those kids for lying about the priests." And so it goes. Denial, massive denial of something obvious combined with a longing for those who tell the truth to be discredited. I guess when the truth comes out, and it will, you can do what the parishioners who turned away from the victims did, you can say, "gee, who knew?"

  61. Osama Bin Laden most definitely has access to nano-thermite. He cooked it up in that cave in Afghanistan, using a tin pot, goat's milk, and some CIA/NATO opium.

    Either that, or his best buddies at the CIA gave it to him.

  62. All truthers are the same: "If you claim to disagree with me, you're really just dishonest." (I gotta give extra-credit for the child rape denial comparison. Good for you.)

    And then you wonder why everyone hates you so much. Well, keep wondering.

    –Scott

  63. Also I think it's hilarious that you blame all the worst kookery on government infiltration.

    Loose Change is all part of the inside job plot now, huh? Sent by the spooks to throw us off their trail!

    Don't tell them, they'll probably include it in Director's Cut Version VI or whatever they're on now.

    –Scott

  64. You're in denial.

  65. I don't think you're dishonest at all. I think you're in denial.

  66. You're in denial about truthers the way a closeted gay guys walks around telling people how much he hates queers.

  67. Ryan, I'm used to hearing about Unocal and the proposed pipeline across Afghanistan but, as a former BP employee with a couple of friends still in Baku, I'm interested in BP's role in the BTC pipeline and whether there is any evidence linking BP to the PNAC crowd.

    Also, any info on Hunt's role as a stalking horse for the Bush admin in brokering an oil concession in Kurdistan in 2007? What was the quid pro quo involved? Was Ray Hunt simply performing a good turn for his friend Dubya or was something else involved? It seems Ray has lent his company jet on more than one occasion to the CIA for unexplained activities.

  68. Mossad agents were in Jersey City – across from the Twin Towers – filming their destruction as it occurred and celebrating their destruction. How did these Israeli Mossad agents know to be there at that precise day and hour to film the destruction of the Twin Towers?

  69. And you have religious faith and fervor where your reason and argument should be.

    –Scott

  70. Of course you will look back and realize you were projecting.

    Maybe you'll always see Bin Laden as a radical who did a "judo move" on the US and maybe I'll always just see another rich kid who went into intelligence work, but seriously, if what you think is true, why were the Bin Laden family members spirited away on 9/12? How come none of them ended up in Gitmo getting their hair done?

    "He was disowned," you think reflexively. And yet Bin Laden got a lot of his operational money from the Saudi upper class. The rich gave him his money. He wasn't disowned. How could he be, he was the pied piper who could lead all the filthy pauper radicals away from their palace walls and into the cannons of distant wars. What, he couldn't throw down some jihading in his hometown? He had to get a passport and get it all done in some strange distant place? And another thing, how come all of his discothequing relatives speak perfect English and Bin Laden always keeps it on the strange, appealing to Americans in the boogeyman's language? What, he can't bust out some English for the sake of PR?

  71. Thanks for the interview, Scott.

    After listening to it a couple of times and perusing the comments I draw the following conclusions:

    1. This is just the latest chapter in the same story – there is no profit in peace for the banksters, politicians, and the connected. What makes more sense than getting U.S. secrets and policy out to the highest bidder in order to keep the central government growing.

    2. I have no doubt that the U.S. Government played a facilitating role in 9/11, just as it did in Fort Sumter, the sinking of the Maine, the sinking of the Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, the Gulf of Tonkin, 1993 WTC, and the OK City bombing.

    3. Central banking with the monopoly power to print money makes this all possible.

    4. The U.S. considers Israel a part of its military, not an ally. In exchange, Israel gets to play in the intelligence sandbox.

    I don't know that I'm a "truther" as I'm not sure what that means, but history shows that the U.S. Government sacrifices people and their property – it gets away with murder and theft.

    All this happens because its allowed to happen.

    The situation

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  75. [...] recorded Oct. 23, 2009 http://original.antiwar.com/scott/2009/11/01/fbi-whistleblower-names-names/ http://antiwar.com/radio/2009/10/26/sibel-edmonds-and-john-m-cole/ [...]

  76. [...] the 9/11 attacks. Most were ignored or censored by the 9/11 Commission. Some of these people are John M. Cole (Senior Counterintelligence Operations Manager-FBI), Bogdan Dzakovic (Former Red Team [...]

  77. [...] the 9/11 attacks. Most were ignored or censored by the 9/11 Commission. Some of these people are John M. Cole (Senior Counterintelligence Operations Manager-FBI), Bogdan Dzakovic (Former Red Team [...]

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  79. [...] be a target of such espionage.”  More recently, FBI counter intelligence officer John Cole has reported how many cases of Israeli espionage are dropped under orders from the Justice Department.  He [...]

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  92. [...] of these people are John M. Cole (Senior Counterintelligence Operations Manager-FBI), Bogdan Dzakovic (Former Red Team [...]

  93. [...] recently, FBI counter intelligence officer John Cole has reported how cases of Israeli espionage are dropped under orders from the Justice Department. He provides a [...]

  94. [...] recent, FBI contra inteligență ofițer John Cole a raportat  modul de cazuri de spionaj israeliene au scăzut sub ordine de la Departamentul de [...]

  95. [...] Former FBI John Cole has stated that the CIA worked closely with the Muhajideen in Central Asia lead… [...]

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  98. [...] to the 9/11 attacks. Most were ignored or censored by the 9/11 Commission. Some of these people are John M. Cole (Senior Counterintelligence Operations Manager-FBI), Bogdan Dzakovic (Former Red Team Leader-FAA), [...]

  99. [...] Former FBI John Cole has stated that the CIA worked closely with the Muhajideen in Central Asia lead… [...]

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