Scott Horton Interviews Coleen Rowley

Scott Horton, March 13, 2010

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Coleen Rowley, retired FBI agent and 9/11 whistleblower, discusses the myth that FISA restrictions (and not incompetence at FBI and CIA headquarters) prevented critical intelligence sharing prior to 9/11, CIA Director George Tenet’s August 2001 “Islamic Extremist Learns to Fly” powerpoint briefing about Zacarias Moussaoui and why the creation of the DHS and increased centralization of intelligence organizations did nothing to fix 9/11 failures.

MP3 here. (29:17)

Coleen Rowley grew up in a small town in northeast Iowa. She obtained a B.A. degree in French from Wartburg College in Waverly, Iowa and then attended the College of Law at the University of Iowa. She graduated with honors in 1980 and passed the Iowa Bar Exam that summer.

In January of 1981, Ms. Rowley was appointed as a Special Agent with the FBI and initially served in the Omaha, Nebraska and Jackson, Mississippi Divisions. In 1984, she was assigned to the New York Office and for over six years worked on Italian-organized crime and Sicilian heroin drug investigations. During this time, Ms. Rowley also served three separate temporary duty assignments in the Paris, France Embassy and Montreal Consulate.

In 1990, Ms. Rowley was transferred to Minneapolis where she assumed the duties of Chief Division Counsel, which entailed oversight of the Freedom of Information, Forfeiture, Victim-Witness and Community Outreach Programs as well as providing regular legal and ethics training to FBI Agents of the Division and additional outside police training.

In May of 2002, Ms. Rowley brought several of the pre 9/11 lapses to light and testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee on some of the endemic problems facing the FBI and the intelligence community. Ms. Rowley’s memo to FBI Director Robert Mueller in connection with the Joint Intelligence Committee’s Inquiry led to a two-year-long Department of Justice Inspector General investigation. She was one of three whistleblowers chosen as Person of the Year by TIME magazine.

In April 2003, following an unsuccessful and highly criticized attempt to warn the Director and other administration officials about the dangers of launching the invasion of Iraq, Ms. Rowley stepped down from her (GS-14) legal position to resume her position as a (GS-13) FBI Special Agent. She retired from the FBI at the end of 2004 and now speaks publicly to various groups, ranging from school children to business/professional/civic groups, on two different topics: ethical decision-making and “balancing civil liberties with the need for effective investigation.”

Ms. Rowley authored a chapter in a book published in 2004 by the Milton Eisenhower Foundation entitled, Patriotism, Democracy and Common Sense: Restoring America’s Promise at Home and Abroad. She is also now an avid blogger on the Huffington Post.

30 Responses to “Coleen Rowley”

  1. Ah yes! Those barking dogs in the comment section.

    SCOTT: [17:00] "Are you saying there was an agenda to turn a blind eye and deliberately allow this attack [9/11] to occur?"
    ROWLEY: "I don't know."

    She certainly leaves the door open to the possibility. But of course Scott we know you are an avowed anti-Truther. And still the dogs keep barking.

  2. We could clear up the questions if the agents would come forward and explain what they were doing.

    Frasca and Maltbie at the RFU.

    Corsi and Middleton at the UBLU.

    They don't owe the public some answers?

  3. Understandably, many Americans are loath to acknowledge the scientific facts, let alone the political complexities, surrounding the “attacks” of September 11, 2001. As I wrote in Milk the Children, “Hordes of the threatened pledge allegiance to The State, cognizant of its evil cancelli of taxes, inflation, preventative war, of schemes of wealth redistribution, class consolidation, of centrally planned antiprosperity regulations, of networks of mass propaganda, and the imprisonment, indoctrination, and drugging of youth in day-jail.”

    In the interest of accurate historical journalism, the Antiwar listening audience is, or should be, eager to hear an interview with physicist Steven E. Jones, architect Richard Gage, or pilot Glen Standish.

    Mr. Standish is reported to have written, “I most certainly and honestly believe, that sometime in the near future, it will become common knowledge that the events of 9/11 were an “inside job” designed, engineered and committed by a very large and “in control” rogue element within our United States federal government, used as a false cause, a pretext, a lie, to invade two natural resource rich foreign countries, to further pursue and expand an empire, to change the borders of the Middle East countries, and as part of the war on terror, or more appropriately, the war on freedom, was used to frighten the American people so they would allow the infringement of their civil liberties and constitutional rights, to allow for closer monitoring and further oppression.”

  4. Scott, you should re-read some of Justin Raimondo's columns right here in Antiwar.com. In particular, I recommend the article titled "Israel and 9/11: New Report Connects the Dots".
    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2005/08/31/isr
    [Excerpts follow.]

    Shea comes to substantially the same conclusion that I did in a series of columns I started writing in late December 2001, the substance of which is contained in a short book, The Terror Enigma: 9/11 and the Israeli Connection: that the Israelis were engaged in spying on U.S. soil in the months leading up to the 9/11 terrorist attacks, that these agents were concentrated in the two areas where the 9/11 hijackers lived and planned their atrocities – Hollywood, Fla., and two counties in New Jersey, Bergen and Hudson – and that they did not share all they knew about preparations for the attack with U.S. authorities.
    [...]
    Shea shows the Israelis had the means, the motive, and the physical proximity to track the hijackers’ movements and intercept the details of their plans. Of particular interest is how some of the hijackers came to be put on the FBI’s watch list – too late to do any good, but in time to provide the Israelis with a cover story if their shadowing activities came to light – which suggests a cover-up of major proportions.

    [End excerpts.]
    I also recommend a website titled "A Timeline: Israel connection to 9/11", which contains the link to Justin's article along with lots of other pertinent information.
    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread549100/

    We'll make a Truther out of you yet! Great interview by the way.

  5. One would have to be both a fool and a conspiracy theorist to think all those things that happened on 9/11 is more than coincidence.

    Or to believe any shred of what some 1000+ architects/physicists……what could they offer against the word of our trustworthy politician's word of what happened.

    Michel Chossudovsky and Webster Tarpley would be great for you to have on your program Scott regarding this topic.

    Part of the 9/11 show was for it to be obvious and it's just stunning to me that 9 years later and all the video/audio/text available there are people who do research and still don't see it.

  6. Now that we are talking about questioning the official 911 story, it might possibly be a good time to talk to Richard Gage.

    Or we could just continue to gatekeep…

  7. Dead on the money, Peter.

  8. Mossad agents filming the 9/11 attack from Jersey City and cheering – of course they had NO prior knowledge to show up at that appointed time to film the attack – right? The NSA was tracking most of the 9/11 terrorists in Europe and they were ALL granted visas to enter the U.S. – nothing suspicious about that – right? 5 of the 19 had actually been trained by the CIA during the 1980's war against ther Russians in Afghanistan – no thought that they might use their skills against the U.S. – right? Apparent evidence of 'thermite' and a controlled demolition – you think? – no? – right? The continental USA air defense was in a stand down that day – not sure why? – any connection to the 9/11 attack? – you think? Corporations have price fixing conspiracies – right? – YES they do! But – a conspiracy of LIES by our Government – has never happened – right? Oops – I forgot about the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution based on the LIES about a North Vietnamese attack on those two US Destroyers that NEVER happened. And the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty – oops – that was just an 'error' by them – right?

  9. Regarding the Tonkin Gulf incident in August 1964: The commodore of Destroyer Division 192 (MADDOX and C. TURNER JOY), Captain John J. Herrick, USN, recommended a complete evaluation of the incident before reaching any hard conclusions. Also, Commander James Stockdale, USN was flying overhead in his F-8 Crusader. He clearly saw the maneuvering of the tin cans, and heard their excited transmissions.
    He couldn't understand it, because he saw no sign of enemy attack.

    The Israeli attack on LIBERTY was a mistake? Sure, and pigs might fly someday, too–but I doubt it!

  10. As Coleen Rowley relates, it was bureaucratic ineptitude and inertia, and not the FISA, which led to the September 11 attacks.

    She's right. Big, bullshit bureaucracies like the Department of
    Fatherland–er, Homeland Security are worthless.

  11. I read years ago that when they checked Moussaoui that they linked him to the Chechens who were being helped by both al Qaeda and the US and so they figured that despite his connections he was ultimately an ally and that that was why the FBI headquarters didn't want him arrested. That sort of thing is still going on and is inevitable when there is no effective oversight of security services.

  12. In all probability, the Zionist darlings in Tel Aviv had foreknowledge of the attacks, and didn't tip off the U.S. authorities. Israel's perfidy extends to its sugar daddy, Uncle Chump.

  13. 9 scientists, one of them Niels Harrit from Uni of Copenhagen, have examined some of the dust from WTC for 18 months. They wrote a research paper and Niels Harrit was interviewed on Danish TV 2. He said that the scientists concluded that nano-thermite and not the planes took down the three buildings. Science is science – or what ? And who has access to nano-thermite ? Hardly Bin Laden, I guess.

  14. Israel did 9/11.

    – Dr. Alan Sabrosky

    A Marine Corps Vietnam veteran and a 1986 graduate of the U.S. Army War College, Dr. Sabrosky's teaching and research appointments have included the United States Military Academy, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Middlebury College and Catholic University; while in government service, he held concurrent adjunct professorships at Georgetown University and the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS).

    http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/2010/03/14/the-ug

  15. Alan Sabrosky's recent article on the dark side of Zionism…

    http://www.salem-news.com/articles/march102010/zi

  16. I would ruin this perfect score and stick up for the official malarkey, but I too do NOT believe that 911 was ANYTHING close to what the Gov. contrived to conclude. How many CCTV cameras does the pentagon have? Hey, you want an investigation? Careful not to have ANY investigators on the commission. How about a war criminal to be the head of the commission.. Geez, Henry has killed hundreds of thousands, he won't be too offended by 3000… Yeah, they could have stopped 911, but orders from higher up said NO…!!!

  17. http://www.salem-news.com/articles/march102010/zi

    should bring up the article.

  18. If I were new to all of this, the first thing I would want to see are the airport security camera still photos from the hundreds of cameras throughout all the airports. Oh, they're not and never were available? Something on them we're not supposed to see?
    The next line of inquiry would be, who was in charge of the security at the airports where the alleged highjackers, allegedly boarded the planes. ICTS? Gee, who are they and where are they headquartered?
    Coleen Rowely can go blow her whistle somewhere else.

  19. http://www.Rediscover9-11.com http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk.com fm left margin click on Sept. 11th..9-11 was a Mossad false flag terror op. aided by elements within the US Govt….that's a fact..They didn't want to stop the 15-19 Lee Harvey Oswalds ( Patsies ) fm getting on those electronically hijacked planes bc they needed them for the official story..Fm the power-down ( no cameras, no locks ) the weekend before ( thanks Mr Silverstein and Lowy ) which enabled the IDF trained demo people fm Urban Moving Systems ( Dominc Suter ) to do their dirty work..and the patsies gave Jerome Hauer something to talk about ( 9:30 am IN the CNN studios ) .

  20. Good comment Ground Control..Yeah, it's all BS..we should be going after the murderers of Rachel Corrie and the crew of the USS Liberty bc they were almost entirely responsible for 9-11…Excuses don't exist to excuse those who still believe the official story…ever see a video of Flt 77 going into the Pentagon? Bc it didn't..no wreckage of a 757 was found at the scene though after a yr of people talking about they did some photo-shop…and why did Ted Olson say his wife called him when during the 9-11 Comm hearings the FBI sd that only 2 calls came fm ANY of the planes and they came fm Flt 93?

  21. The alleged call from Barbara Olsen was the first "Muslims did it" link. Any and all evidence produced in the following days was so obviously planted, only a complete moron or a nation full of morons would believe it.

  22. muhammed atta's passport on the ground at WTC was the only hard evidence linking him to the crime……what is the official story of how it got there? did it fall out of his pocket when he crashed the plane into the building? that is not a feasable story ……and why would he be carrying his real passport? it has never even been proven that he was on the plane

  23. I heartily encourage all to prepare for the day of reckoning between the current government and the American people.

    We have been hoodwinked, bamboozled, traumatized and shat upon for way way too long. This moment of reckoning is surely coming and the media inspired division of the American people will end. At this point in time we should summon all of the love and courage we can muster, hunker down with our communities and support one another as citizens. It is time to bring jsutice and approriate punishment to the rats and scalliwags that have ruined our free existence.

    It will soon be ours to come forward and provide responsible leadership. There will be a void after the big changeover. We needn't fear an economic slump, violence or government instability because after a very short while we will have the reigns again. Then we can start making good common sense decisions that affect our well being and life will return to normal..

    We have a high noon meeting with truth over the 9/11 false flag event. Fear is not an option.

    Peace,GPW

    Peaceful coexistence in a cooperative world…
    GPW

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  25. I second that.

    The peer-reviewed scientific paper by Harrit (and Jones) et al, is very straightforward. I have had just one year of college chemistry and I can follow it pretty well. The iron microspheres, which were also documented by the USGS, are shown to result from ignition of the metallic-film superthermite, which contains iron oxide grains in a matrix of aluminum, and other chemicals of sigificance. (The unignited superthermite was/is present in the WTC dust.) There are photographs of the material and scanning electron micrographs which allow you to actually see this highly nano-engineered material. Painfully obvious. And then, it turns out that both the entities who have written the main "Official" papers explaining the WTC towers "collapses" (= top NIST workers and Zdenek Bazant) have working relationships with the US government in the field of nanocomposites! Some of these relationships appear to precede 9/11. And yet….NIST to this day refuses to chemically analyze the WTC dust, despite repeated written requests, and Bazant has avoided writing about aluminothermics as much as possible in relationship to the WTC catastrophe.

  26. The pertinent papers are: "The Top Ten Connections between NIST and Nanothermite", by Kevin Ryan. http://911review.com/articles/ryan/nist_thermite_

    and "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the World Trade Center Catastrophe", by Harrit et al.

    We already know who some of the heroes will be: Steven Jones, Niels Harrit, Kevin Ryan, Jim Hoffman, etc.

    This is a dream situation for a journalist. (Read the research; you will be surprised.)

  27. great interview Scott, it would be great to have her back on again sometime :)

  28. Yes, that's right. FBI Headquarters did not, at the time, believe the Chechen group constituted a "foreign power" or foreign terrorist group under the FISA. The Department of Justice Inspector General investigation later identified the failure to realize the Chechen group would have qualified as "acting on behalf of a foreign power or foreign terrorist group" as one of the pre 9-11 mistakes. Also the 9-11 Commission Report mentions that there was information, albeit sketchy, linking Moussaoui to this guy Al Khattab, who some intelligence had connected to Osama Bin Laden.

  29. Sleeper Jarrah in NYC ’96 relocates to Hamburg in Sept. ’97, changes major to aero. eng. KSM was Mus. Bro since 16 years old. Mech. Eng., NCSU. Ayman Al-Zawahiri leaves 6 mths in Dagestan in May ’97, meets up with OBL in Afganistan. Atta disappears for periods of time, from his corp. job, ’97. What is so difficult to understand about these facts?

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