Scott Horton Interviews Daniel Luban

Scott Horton, April 23, 2010

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Daniel Luban, writer for the foreign policy blog Lobelog, discusses Israel’s postwar history, the lack of a serious peace process since Camp David, Obama’s sometimes-encouraging rhetoric on a peaceful two-state settlement, common ground between the anti-occupation Left and foreign policy/military realists worried about disruption of US regional goals, why Palestinians will have a powerful appeal for one person one vote democracy should a two-state solution fail and why parsing the public statements of Israeli officials is like reading tea leaves.

MP3 here. (45:04)

Daniel Luban is a writer based in Chicago. He is a graduate student in political science at the University of Chicago, and previously served as a correspondent for Inter Press Service; he also blogs at The Faster Times. He holds an M.Phil in political thought and intellectual history from Cambridge University and a B.A. in history from Swarthmore College.

4 Responses to “Daniel Luban”

  1. One of the things rarely to never acknowledged about the history of Palestine and Israel is that the State of Israel was created without the consent of the majority of the people living in that area. Never, to this day, has the issue of their consent been seriously, or at all, addressed. This is the critical and fundamental fact: the expulsion of the arabs made concrete what had already been done as an idea.

  2. It's just fascinating to think that right wing defenders of Israel would cite the fact that the Arab parties rejected the UN partition! Of course, that fact means that the founding of Israel was NEVER legitimate, because there was never consent. And in fact, if they want to reference that issue, they should really love Iran's idea that a referendum is necessary. But, of course, after 60 years, Israel is a fact. No one, including Hamas, is disputing that. What is primarily in question is the borders and we see that Israel CONTINUES to illegally expand its grip on land, not even land that is in dispute, but land that clearly belongs to a future Palestine.

    See, there's a lot of mystification of the Middle East conflict. It's actually very, very simple. Israel's founding was illegitimate. Virtually it's first act was a crime against humanity, ethnic cleansing. One way or another, Israel must make peace. But for that to happen, they must give up some of their most cherished delusions, starting with the delusion that they are always, always, always the victim in every situation (which, of course, they know is not true, as one can tell from their raging pride in their force of arms). As we know from our own American delusions, such as American Exceptionalism, it's hard to give up a delusion, and just as we would rather bath the world in blood than give up our delusion, Israel would rather drown the Middle East in blood than give up theirs

  3. From the begining, the early Israelis did not see the Arabs as "people." They still do not. It is a part of the european racism they brought with them and it is a part of their religion.

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