Scott Horton Interviews Mikey Weinstein

Scott Horton, July 31, 2010

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Mikey Weinstein, author of With God on Our Side: One Man’s War Against an Evangelical Coup in America’s Military, discusses the “fundamentalist Christian parachurch military corporate proselytizing complex” that Eisenhower never warned about, the “American Taliban” Christian dominionists within the military who want to replace the Constitution with religious edicts, the danger of a military indoctrinated in end-times theology and equipped with a vast arsenal of nuclear weapons and why Armageddon is not a viable exit strategy for Afghanistan.

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Mikey Weinstein is the founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation. He was described by Harper’s magazine as the constitutional conscience of the U.S. military, a man determined to force accountability. Mikey’s family has a long and distinguished U.S. military history spanning three consecutive generations of military academy graduates and over 130 years of combined active duty military service in every major combat engagement our country has been in from World War I to the current Global War on Terror.

Mikey is a 1977 Honor Graduate of the United States Air Force Academy. Mikey has been married for over 32 years to his wife, Bonnie. He is the proud parent of two sons and one daughter. His oldest son and daughter-in-law are 2004 Graduates, and Mikey’s youngest son graduated in the Class of 2007 from the Air Force Academy and is the sixth member of Mikey’s family to attend the Academy. His father is a distinguished graduate of the United States Naval Academy. Mikey spent 10 years in the Air force as a “JAG” or military attorney serving as both a Federal prosecutor and criminal defense attorney.

43 Responses to “Mikey Weinstein”

  1. Every tribe has it's own rites and rituals and the military besides being a Federal work program with WMD's is a tribe. The foot soldiers worship Jesus, but the top leadership bow to Leo Strauss.

  2. These people are not Christians. Christians worship Jesus Christ – not the U.S. government, not the Founding Fathers, and not the military. People who can't figure out the First Commandment – "Thou shalt not have any other God before me" – can by no means qualify as Christians.

  3. "Mikey has been married for over 32 years to his wife…"


    Is that anything like having a brother or a sister that is a sibling?

  4. So when the Air Force lost control of those nukes a few years ago, what was that about?

    The British are considering combining the RAF with the Navy and Army.

    So why do the Europeans and Japan tolerate the US? End NATO!

    According to WBAI(Pacifica) 'Weaponry Program' host Tom Wisker the US air force is ineffective (to be kind) in their role in the Afghan war. Maybe you should interview him about it.

    BTW, any bets of if the most prominent air force project F-35 actually works?

  5. Air power has not been working very effectively and all over the world since World War !.

    But what a gloriously lunatic application of the Capitalist need for antiproduction.

    It is also the miliatry version of the styling revolution that destroyed the American auto industry, intensified by American little boys with their plastic models fantasizing about speed and power and too repressed to find an aesthetic in the curves of the classic feminine nude or in the blatantly winged phallus of the ancients.

  6. The whole US militaryu pilot mythos, a la Top Gun, including its sexual aspect, has escaped deeper analysis.

    Interesting enough there is a blatant tension with "The Right Stuff", and it is no surprise that the Russians, despite all their economic troubles, still lead humanity into outer space, as they were also the first to do, with Sputnik and the cosmonauts under the Soviets.

  7. Excellent Comment,

  8. “but the top leadership bow to Leo Strauss.”

    Nonsense. They worship the Devil (in hopes of profit and power, all the kingdoms of the world), but call him Jesus.

  9. 'Air power has not been working very effectively and all over the world since World War ! ' (sic) Really? I'll assume that you are referring to that latter of the two global conflicts, so I won't point out the obvious advantages that air superiority gave the various belligerents during WW2–but having you been paying attention to current events? The Kosovo and Bosnian air campaigns by the USAF during the 90's put lie to your assertion; in fact, the Kosovo bombing campaign that pummeled Serbian infrastucture and Serbian military targets is THE singular example of the US going to war–yes, I know it was undeclared, but war it was–and reaching its military and political objectives without committing ground forces. Need I mention that US and UK air power was instrumental in reducing Sadddam Hussein's soveriegnty to the Mayoralty of Baghdad circa 1992-2003? As to to your Pseudo-intellectual, Quasi-Freudian analysis of warplanes, may I remind you that in aerodynamics, form follows function. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

  10. nick turse's complex, don't forget to account for the sexual anarchism wing of that complex

  11. Then explain to me -if you can- how can such people swear an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America while putting their "religion" ahead of it … maybe they should "figure out" the First AMENDMENT to that document … mind you, I have no qualms about anyone's religious belief or lack or absence of belief, irrespective of my own. Just keep it where it belongs … within the individual, his/her church, synagogue, mosque, or circle, or their family … and out of my face and that of others who have no interest. FYI:" 95+% of Mikey/s Military Religious Freedom Foundation "clients" are Christians who honor the first amendment and resent the rabid evangelical proselytizing !

  12. Just somewhat redundant … like being a little bit pregnant ! … (;oD

  13. could someone explain exactly what these ignoramuses, lesterness, hebo, eve, & good luck, don't understand about comments pertinent to the subject !

  14. One of my favorite movies is “Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb” (1964), that black comedy about nuclear war. Two of its main characters, Generals Jack D. Ripper (Sterling Hayden) and Buck Turgidson (George C. Scott), are rabid right-wingers and anti-Communists. Today, as Mike Weinstein and his boys at the Military Religious Freedom Foundation remind us, there’s another kind of zealotry that’s taken hold in the military–religious, that is. And it’s just as dangerous.

    If you wear the uniform, your first obligation is to the Constitution. Keep that in mind, will you? And that goes for you, General Petraeus, you four-star political hack.

  15. What did Jesus have to do with the 10 commandments exacty? Weren't those just some page in a book in a culture he happened to have been born into?

  16. i wonder what it was?

  17. "The Kosovo and Bosnian air campaigns by the USAF during the 90's put lie to your assertion"

    If the war happened today a resurgent Russia would supply the Serbs with top shelf AA. As the Serbs were able to shoot down a few stealth aircraft with obsolete technology my guess is the air force would be forced to relent as they did during the Christmas bombing of Hanoi.

    Actually if the Serbs folded their hand immediately, they might be resurgent today, who knows?

    "US and UK air power was instrumental in reducing Sadddam Hussein"

    The US was able to impose sanctions due to the US's domination of the world economy, and that all surrounding nations, most notably Iran cooperated for their own reasons. If it happened today it is likely that China would break the embargo, as is the case with Iran.

    "may I remind you that in aerodynamics, form follows function"

    The air force chose the X-35 over the X-32 as the Joint Strike Fighter mostly due to aesthetic reasons. My guess is the US and the JSF would all be better off if they went with Boeing. Chosing Boeing would have upset the European partners though.

  18. Yes, the Serbs scored a Stealth with Radio Shack technology, obsoleting a trillion dollar boondoggle at least.

    Nor was the Yugoslav Army ever really touched.

    It was a war on infrastructure and civilians from five thousand feet.

    Even a few Spanish pilots began to bridle at the incompetence and cowardice of it all.

  19. The only advantage that accrued to air power during World War II was close tactical support of infantry and armor. The US innovated here by putting troops on the ground in direct radio contact with overhead planes. The Russians developed the innovation into a new and very sophisticated tactic.

    The US' own post World War II report on strategic bombing (Galbraith was on the study) concluded strategic air power had accomplished very little.

    German industrial production hardly miss a beat and in fact increased despite the bombing.

    On the other hand, you fly boys fancy your Dresdens, don't you?

    Pardon for confusing you with facts. The high altitude destroys brains cells after a while, unless like Sherpa, you were born and bred stratospherically. That is why most USAF who actually fly, from bottom to top, compete with airline stewardesses for ditziness.

  20. Dude, that Naval Academy propaganda indoctrination you underwent is kicking in. All he was saying is that genuine Christians do not comport themselves as the "military fundamentalist" types do. That's not the same as claiming that there are no genuine Christians in the military, or that they neglect their civic obligations vis-a-vis the Constitution.

  21. When has it ever been different? Fifty or a hundred years ago? No. The only time it has ever been even remotely different was when we didn't have a standing army. As it is we have people who think the military has some sort of God-given right to exist irregardless.

  22. "eve"'s comment gained a plus 3 rating and was considered "excellent" by at least one person… but it was subsequently deleted by an administrator. A clarification of why such an action was deemed necessary would be nice for those of us who are uneasy about disappearing comments. Else, perhaps "Hebo" can remember and share with us what (s)he was replying to…

  23. I retract my inquiry as I now see a later comment that indicates that the removed comment was considered off topic. I shoulda read the thread closer and I apologize to everyone for enlarging this off topic sub-thread.

  24. Weinstein first popped up in 2005, when he alleged there was something like a Christian cabal proseletyzing combatatively at his old alma mater, the Air Force Academy. At the time, and since, he has received attentive, even indulgent press coverage. A report was issued about the matter a few years ago, new guidelines were issued – and the story quietly died for awhile. Then Weinstein filed a lawsuit, moving his allegations into the legal arena and again into our stop-and-go news cycles.

    However, in five years, he's emerged as the sole agitator for this "controversy", and it appears more and more that his nemeses are not Christian fanatics buttonholing put-upon Jews and Buddhists, pagans and Muslims. Apparently, his foe is Christianity itself. Certainly, there are Christian absolutists in the military, as there are in American life generally. But if this problem is as monumental as Weinstein alleges, wouldn't more intensive coverage about it emerge? News that sources to someone – anyone – other than Weinstein? In this set-up, the media simply repeats what Weinstein tells it. No effort is made to validate any of his charges that a Christ Cult has taken over the military.

  25. Weinstein himself come across as a case law, legal dominionist.

  26. "Even a few Spanish pilots began to bridle at the incompetence and cowardice of it all."

    Do you have a link to that, I would like to read about it, Spanish links would be ok.

  27. "wouldn't more intensive coverage about it emerge?"

    Honestly, Curt, your innocence amazes.

  28. Weinstein is a J-E-W and hates everything that has anything to do with the Christ. He wants a
    P-E-D-O-P-H-I-L-E R-A-B-B-I in charge of the military so his friends in israel wont have to bribe the military to support the israeli agenda

  29. Oh… please! If Christians were miltantly proselytizing non-Christians in uniform on a widespread basis there'd be Congressional investigations, documentaries, docudramas, special NPR series and round-the-clock Abe Foxman by now. Sure… it's all covered up – by AMERICAN MEDIA?!!! Thone, your gullibility amazes me.

  30. Weinstein is a J-E-W WWW and hates everything that has anything to do with the Christ. He wants a pedo freak rabbi running the U.S. military so his friends in israel wont have to bribe the military to follow their israeli agenda. With the rabbi's in control of the U.S. military,, they would already have started war with Iran

  31. Frankly, fundie prots have pretty much taken over the US. Bush the younger was their false messiah. Happily, he was too lazy and stupid to do much damage at home (sorry Iraqis and Afghans). But another fighting fundie regime, under someone as clever and energetic and vicious as Cromwell is quite possible.

  32. So why does Lew Rockwell continue to post the opinions of Dominionist Supreme, Gary North? Here is a guy that wants to bring back stoning of adulterers.


  34. But of course we should never worry about the Pentagon wanting to attack Iran.

  35. I accept what Mikey says at face value, because I am from Mississippi and all around me are dominionist christians, many who are in the military. They do want America to be an exclusively christian nation, and would love to ban islam, buddism, etc. They would let a few synagogues hang around so they could be considered tolerant.
    I think that the MRFF would do better if they had another spokesman, though. Mikey is passionate and well researched, but his manner is a little too much for some people. It's a serious topic and being hyperbolic and deliberately sarcastic and confrontational may not be the best way to communicate this message. That said, I do like Mikey a lot and advise him to watch out for some crazy fundamentalist who might try to silence him.

  36. hahahahaha… oh, you're serious.

  37. Horrible interview. Taking everything Weinstein says for granted without even analyzing what the "other side" thinks.

    I recomend anyone to watch videos of James F. Linzey (one of Weinstein favorite targets) lectures on youtube…he sounds a lot like Ron Paul, attacking the Fed, against the Wars in the ME, etc. Maybe its mr. Weinstein that is the totalitarian warmonger here.

  38. Mr. Horton, why dont you do an interview with James F. Linzey so we can hear "the other side"? You might be surprised…

  39. You are probably looking at your surroundings the wrong way…

    James F. Linzey lecture:

    Seems very anti-war to me…James Linzey and his church are one of Weinstein favorite targets. So perhaps Weinstein and his pack of pathetic totalitarians are just afraid because the Dominionists are Ron Paul´s with guns and a short fuze…

  40. “The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.”

    –John Quincy Adams, former U.S. President

    “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.”

    –John Jay, First Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court

    It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible.”

    –George Washington, former U.S. President

    “America was born a Christian nation. America was born to exemplify that devotion to the elements of righteousness which are derived from the revelations of the Holy Scripture.”

    –Woodrow Wilson, former U.S. President

    "Mr. Weinstein's argument is not with James F. Linzey or Jim Ammerman, but with God, the U.S. Military, the U.S. Founding Fathers, and the Jewish Bible, which serves as the basis of the US judicial system."

  41. Irrespective of what Rev. Dr. James F. Linzey said, though what he said was right in my opinion, the mistake Mr. Weinstein made with Rev. Linzey is that Rev. Linzey is and was a full time civilian, not a full time Major, when Rev. Linzey spoke his mind. One would think that Mr. Weinstein would do his homework and find out Dr. Linzey's status as a civilian and seek clarification on the position of Dr. Linzey before making wild statements. What Dr. Linzey said was based on academic research. All he did was restate what others were saying. Newsweek made a mistake similar to that of Mr. Weinstein when journalist Kathy Joyce, who is an associate of Mr. Weinstein, trusted what Mr. Weinstein said. Ms. Joyce was found to have been in grave error and embarrassed Newsweek. Newsweek issued a public apology to Dr. Linzey when they checked the facts. That speeks volumes in Rev. Linzey's favor.

  42. President Woodrow Wilson stated, “America was born a Christian nation. America was born to exemplify that devotion to the elements of righteousness which are derived from the revelations of the Holy Scripture.” This is well corroborated with statements from our Founding Fathers. For example, President John Qunicy Adams said, “The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.” Let's examine what the first Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court said. John Jay stated, “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” It seems to me that Mr. Weinstein's argument is not with James Linzey, but with the Founding Fathers, the U.S. Military, and the Jewish Bible which serves as the basis for the U.S. judicial system and the foundations of the U.S. Constitution.

  43. The views of James Linzey I think are very much in line with not only, but also with our Founding Fathers. General George Washington said, “My first wish is to see this plague of mankind, war, banished from the earth.” James Linzey, who is involved in missionary work to Mexico, Philippines, Africa, Pakistan, Ukraine, and India is a humanitarian. loves all people, and is a proven pluralist, as his military record substantiates. He gracioiusly worked with chaplains and civilian clergy of all faiths, including those contrary to his own faith. There is no basis for anyone to come against Rev. Linzey. Just my two cents worth.

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