Scott Horton Interviews Gareth Porter

Scott Horton, November 22, 2010

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Gareth Porter, independent historian and journalist for IPS News, discusses the fraudulent evidence that is cited as proof Iran had a nuclear weapons program and how outdated missile schematics in the MEK (or Mossad)-sourced “smoking laptop” cast suspicion on the rest of the purloined (or fabricated) documents.

MP3 here. (10:21)

Gareth Porter is an independent historian and journalist. He is the author of Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam. His articles appear on Counterpunch, Huffington Post, Inter Press Service News Agency and Antiwar.com.

11 Responses to “Gareth Porter”

  1. If I remember correctly, in one of his last interviews Ray McGovern said something like "You can take it to the bank" that there was some kind of weapons program before 2003..would be interesting to hear Ray confronted with these new developments. It seems that there are a few quite interesting aspects in the classified NIE.

  2. Johanes,

    that depends on how you define 'program".

    The iranians were pretty public with that fact that some of their officials, after the US invaded Iraq and then threatened to go after Iran next, were worried about defending their country and suggested nukes as a possible deterrent. The suggestion was quickly batter down by Iran's supreme leader. From my knowledge, that the was extent if Iran's nuclear weapons "program"

  3. part 2

    - As a non-Persian who was born and educated in Iran I am aware of the differences between the Western and Iranian culture. Like every place in the world there are lots of crooks in Iran yet there are noticeable nice things there that are evolved through the centuries. Other nice things that are probably the result of a few catastrophic foreign invasions or maybe as Cyrus Cylinder shows they were there even before those invasions..

    In 1999, in Paris I was in a guest of an Iranian knowledgeable man . In his book-shelf I saw couple of hard-cover books published by Iranian Army (or IRGC ?) on the Iran-Iraq war.

  4. Part 3

    In one of those books I saw quite a few color photos I can never forget. They were the photographs of the Iranian victims of the Iraqi Blister, Mustard or Nerve Gas bombs. Later that day I asked my host “did Iran retaliate with similar bombs?”. He shook his head then cited a line from a famous poem by Saadi (who lived about 800 years ago). (That poem was always in the text books of elementary schools in Iran, I hope IRI hasn’t removed it)

    Here is that line he quoted, the line I had memorized in childhood:

    If you have no sympathy for human pain.
    The name of human you can not retain.

    (The entire poem is inscribed in the Hall of Nation of UN, Obama in his first Noruz message to Iranians quoted a few other lines of the poem )

  5. Part 4

    I vaguely remember reading (in Web of Deceit?) Iran after the first use of chemical weapons by Iraq, complained to UN. US through the use of its CIA and embassies all over the world and through the US media had already spread the lie that “both sides are using these weapons”. Based on that deliberate misinformation US blocked the Iranian complaint. It took about two years until UN finally cleared Iran from those allegations.

    I also remember a CBS TV report from a hospital in Iran where some of the soldiers with burnt faces, hands and lungs were under treatment. An Iranian doctor telling to the American reporter something like “what kind of people can do such heinous thing to other human beings?”. About the same time I heard a Swedish paper had quoted an Iranian official saying “we will never use these weapons”. This was when a group of similarly badly injured soldiers were sent to Sweden for treatment.

  6. Part 5

    I guess this is also the scandalous time when Sweden supplied Iran with anti-aircraft missiles to shoot down the planes dropping those chemical bombs.

    Iranian leaders all have repeatedly said they are only after the peaceful use of nuclear technologies, not building a dreadful bomb that could kill civilians en mass.

    I know of a few more items asserting Iran is not after any type of WMD.

    Apparently Hillary Mann Leverett is convinced Iran is not after the bomb. In Amy Goodman’s interview she said:

  7. Part 6

    “ ….when we look at Iran…how Iran behaved during Iran-Iraq war in 1980's…an eight year war where more than half a million Iranians were killed in part because Saddam Hussein using chemical weapons against them…..the Iranians decided…..took a decision……we actually know…..there is archival material ……that it shows some of the debate within the Iranian leadership…..they took a decision not to use chemical weapons back against the Iraqis……so we have actually some sense of an ability by Iranians to take some pretty severe hits and to not go first use some unconventional weapons….option to use even against its archest foe in 1980s…”.

  8. Part 7 (last)

    Watch the above interview here ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anQmSq6Kz_U ), put all the facts (especially the ones Gareth is discovering) together and wonder what kind of people can do such heinous things to other human beings….things like spreading big lies to prepare the public for another unnecessary heinous war.

  9. You can be sure that the "evidence" of Iran's "weapons program" is manufactured and disseminated by the boys in Tel Aviv. And, of course, the Israel-Firsters, the neocon chickenhawks, in this country are cheerfully complicit.

  10. Once more, the threat is a polemical invention, intended to frighten American and Israeli (and European) voters and to prompt a preemptive attack on Iran. The reason Gates expressed his uncertainties to the president is that he, too, recognizes that the conflict with Iran is constructed from fictions—which, as with the lies about Iraq, may turn into another war, whose consequences are sure to be worse for all concerned than the fiasco and tragedy of America’s invasion of Iraq.
    http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/04/24/worlds-gr

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