Scott Horton Interviews Andy Worthington

Scott Horton, February 12, 2011

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Andy Worthington, author of The Guantanamo Files, discusses his week long tour of Poland, home of a “black site” secret CIA prison, during which he tried to convince the Polish government to accept Guantanamo prisoners who can’t be released to their home countries (for fear of torture); the prison’s ignominious history as “a Soviet-era compound once used by German intelligence in World War II;” the difficulty in getting information from foreign governments complicit in the CIA’s rendition and torture program; how former US officials traveling abroad risk criminal indictments; and the secret CIA prison in Romania that remains…secret.

MP3 here. (24:20)

Andy Worthington writes for Counterpunch, the Future of Freedom Foundation and Antiwar.com. He is the author of The Guantanamo Files and writes an eponymous blog. He directed the documentary movie Outside the Law: Stories From Guantanamo.

14 Responses to “Andy Worthington”

  1. Obama is actually worse than Bush. But the alternative was an insane old warmonger and a psychotic religious nut as VP. Obama spared no time in destroying the videofilms made by female soldiers in uniform of American soldiers raping small boys while forcing their mothers to watch in order to get the information they wanted from their fathers in Iraq according to Seymour Hersh (My Lai). Who gave the orders ? Who did this inhumane act ? They are the worst kind of war criminals but of course, Obama destroyed the evidence. Obama is as much a war criminal (e.g. drone-attacks in Pakistan killing a lot of kids and old people, night-raids in Afghanistan often killing one or two in the houses attacked and some kidnapped, and so on). Obama will be the next former president stay-at-home. The Taliban were guests of honor in Texas. But they couldn´t agree on The Trans-Afghan Pipeline. Now they have built some 400 Kms of the pipeline. It´s to bring oil and gas from 5 countries north of Afghanistan through Afghanistan and Pakistan to Karachi and from there by ship. Soldiers are dying to secure air-condition in Texas.

  2. Reference: http://www.boingboing.net/2004/07/20/evidence_for

    Bad Obama! These movies would have fetched good money on the black market.

  3. I am a Pole and I am dismayed by the fact that all the Polish politicians no matter which party they belong to did their best to hide the truth about secret prisons. Both the former Prime Minister Miller and ex-President Kwasniewski should rot in prison for sending Polish troops to Iraq and Afganistan. Obviously they dont because in Poland the law is only for the poor.

  4. [...] Last week, I had the pleasure of talking to Scott Horton of Antiwar Radio about my recent week-long visit to Poland, with former Guantánamo prisoner Moazzam Begg, to tour a sub-titled version of the documentary film, “Outside the Law: Stories from Guantánamo,” which I co-directed with filmmaker Polly Nash. The 24-minute interview — my 22nd with Scott — is available here. [...]

  5. From Illinois, II-13-2011
    Since former president (small “p”, please note) of poland – A.Kwasniewski was not “informed” and was “not aware” that agression is Agression, torture is Torture – so I provide some information for the polish prime ministers (several of them, already), presidents, ministers and so forth. As a private citizen.
    They can say now that they “didn’t know” or, as a certain buffoon (a minister) stated, the case with the secret prisons, tortures is “closed”. Closed?
    Poland, unfortunately, co-signed all the tortures the Germans committed, or the Russians – including Katyn – by agreeing to use of its soil, voluntarily, as a “free & democratic country”. It is per the godly principle: whatever torture you committed to one – you committed it to all of of us” To the God, too. Poland, the goverment – is complicit. And some of the Poles as well. Poland have to stop now the cries about Katyn tragedy, 1941. It is blanketed by the current tragedy, in our “enlighted times of wester-style democracy”. The Soviets did whatever they did under the black cloak of communism…Totalitarism…
    Contrary to this – Poland exposed itself without such lowliness nowadays.
    Koniec.
    TakiDrugi

  6. "Obama will be the next former president stay-at-home"

    Jeeze, that's depressing! I was hoping he'd go back to Kenya.

  7. Driving around with my distant Polish relatives in 6/00, we went by a compound with about 6' high stucco walls, whereupon my 'cousin' remarked: "The Russians moved out & the U.S. moved in."

    I didn't think much about it at the time, except to experience disgust that the U.S. military was spreading itself far & wide.

    Then, in 2007, Larissa Alexandrovna revealed that it was one of the secret rendition sites. Now we learn it was a 'high value' prisoner site where torture took place.

  8. See my little story below. My relatives live in the NE corner of Poland & knew who controlled the military site. I do not know if they ever figured out exactly what the U.S. military was doing there, but I suspect, as it was in the middle of very small towns, that quite a bit was known by the locals.

    Don't know where you live in Poland, but did you know anything about it until 2007?

  9. Driving around with my distant Polish relatives in 6/00, we went by a compound with about 6' high stucco walls, whereupon my 'cousin' remarked: "The Russians moved out & the U.S. moved in."

  10. 6/00 would be June 2000? Therefore well before 9/11 and the secret rendition program?

  11. 6/00 would be June 2000? Already well before 9/11 and extraordinary secret rendition?
    That would confirm rumours that it (and possibly other similar sites) had been equally secretly rendered to the US already in the '90s …

  12. Third and last attempt to have this comment included …
    6/00 would mean June 2000? This would be well before 9/11 and secret extraordinary redition.
    It would fit with rumours that this site and possible others as well, was equally secretly rendered to the US already in the '90s …

  13. 2/15/2011
    THAT MY POSTING FROM FEBRUARY 13 WAS REMOVED, HERE I ADD IT AGAIN:

    = = = = = =

    February 13th, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    From Illinois, II-13-2011
    Since former president (small “p”, please note) of poland – A.Kwasniewski was not
    “informed” and was “not aware” that agression is Agression, torture is Torture – so I
    provide some information for the polish prime ministers (several of them, already),
    presidents, ministers and so forth. As a private citizen.
    They can't say now that they “didn’t know” or, as a certain buffoon (a minister)
    stated, that the case with the secret prisons, tortures is “closed”. Closed?
    Poland, unfortunately, co-signed all the tortures the Germans committed, or the
    Russians – including Katyn – by agreeing to use of its soil, voluntarily, as a “free &
    democratic country”. It is per the godly principle: whatever torture you committed to
    one – you committed it to all of of us” To the God, too. Poland, the goverment – is
    complicit. And some of the Poles as well. Poland have to stop now the cries about
    Katyn tragedy, 1941. It is blanketed by the current tragedy, in our “enlighted times
    of wester-style democracy”. The Soviets did whatever they did under the black cloak of
    communism…Totalitarism…
    Contrary to this – Poland exposed itself even without such lows nowadays.

  14. Did Andy Worthington say that Anas al-Liby renditioned to Libya were he “committed suicide”?

    If he did that is very, very interesting for a number of reasons.

    a) Egyptian intelligence linked him to the failed assassination attempted against Mubarak in Ethiopia in 95 when he was given political asylum in Britain.
    http://www.historycommons.org/searchResults.jsp?s

    b) British intelligence recruited him for a failed 96 motorcade assassination attempt on Libyan leader Colonel Mu’ammar al-Qadhafi.
    http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpwessex/Documents/WA

    c) British intelligence shielded him from US authorities (and not the only terrorist) from the FBI in connection for his role in the 98 African Embassy bombings. In fact he is listed on the FBI Most Wanted terrorist website.
    http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists/anas-

    So why was he moved to Libya instead of being extradited to the US?

    It would be good if Worthington would follow up on this al-liby case.

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