Scott Horton Interviews Gareth Porter

Scott Horton, March 29, 2011

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Gareth Porter, independent historian and journalist for IPS News, discusses how the joint congressional testimony of Gen. Petraeus and Michele Flournoy betrays the Obama administration’s intent to stay in Afghanistan indefinitely; why a never-ending military presence greatly hinders negotiations with the Taliban; why pipeline politics remain a peripheral issue in US war-making decisions; the resilience of loyal Obama supporters who still see hope and change in this train wreck of a presidency; and how humanitarian interventions, whether successes or failures, empower the war-hawks.

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Gareth Porter is an independent historian and journalist. He is the author of Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam. His articles appear on Counterpunch, Huffington Post, Inter Press Service News Agency and Antiwar.com.

10 Responses to “Gareth Porter”

  1. How far being a war president has changed Barak Obama. He is a man who has been unwilling to oppose the forces of war, for whatever reasons, I am not going to speculate on the reasons.", said Gareth Porter
    Does anyone see the irony that Obama is now supporting John McCain-like warmongering, his supposed opponent in the last election? The polls are showing resistance among Republicans, Independents, Democrats. The Obama team are expert political manipulators but it has its limits.
    McCain was going to push against Russia for Georgia, two years ago. Russia was really dangerous. This warmongering is a disease, an addiction. It clouds people's vision. Obama's and Biden's antiwar statements are on the internet video services. They show the hypocrisy. Be a fan of Obama if you want, but reject the war part.
    The cold war is over. Instead of searching for monsters to slay, we should get on to the business of the United States.

  2. the International Geophysical Year of 1957 surveyed the resources of the planet. One of the results was discovery of a potential huge reservoir of oil in the South China Sea. A communist victory is Vietnam would result in the loss of that resource for American corporations. So 50,00 Americans had to die to secure that oil. Oops it wasn't there after all.

  3. Being a war prez hasn't changed O at all. He is an evil power crazed man & always was.

  4. Good luck paying for those bases.

  5. "All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted."
    - Chapterhouse: Dune (Frank Herbert)

    "You people will be keen to have the authority of ruling which will be a thing of regret for you on the Day of Resurrection. What an excellent wet nurse it is, yet what a bad weaning one it is!"

    "Do not seek to be a ruler, for if you are given authority on your demand, you will be held responsible for it, but if you are given it without asking for it, then you will be helped (by God) in it."

    Lesson: Trust no one who seeks power and authority and thinks they are the best person for the job.

  6. ""All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted."
    - Chapterhouse: Dune (Frank Herbert)

    What a load of BS..!! "It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible." This must have been written by someone who believed that THEY would not be corrupted by power……
    Power DOES corrupt and no one is immune…..and as a footnote, well….. that it is …"magnetic to the corruptible."

  7. I think the key here is that power attracts pathological personalities in general. There have been (quite few – no doubt) instances of rulers that ran their affairs with justice and wisdom. But if you look at them, it is usually the case of the young prince who was thrust into power only because his older ambitious brother died or the like – the people who never sought it in the first place but were saddled with it have tended to turn out alright. There are very few of them of course, but the point being; if power corrupts absolutely then we would never in history have had one instance of a just king or ruler – and that is just not the case. Now if you are a staunch libertarian, maybe you would argue that authority in and of itself is oppressive – but that's another discussion.

    Frank Herbert was quite wary of positions of authority and what it could do to one's psyche – anyone who reads his books would be instantly aware of the tragedy that lies ahead for those sorts of ambitious personalities.

  8. David,
    Do you think that it would be more acceptable if we DID have the means to pay for those bases? Hypothectical sitation : we have an unlimited budget, and paying for them would not in any way affect other apects of how the US governs itself.
    Just curious, it's an honest question, not rhetorical.

  9. No, it would not be OK to have these bases, even if we could afford them. I'm just pointing out that these enduring bases will not endure long, because of the economic collapse they are helping to bring on.

  10. If Gareth Porter were as good a historian as say Ralph Schoenmann is, he would know and would have known that Obama is not subverting anything except his oath of office. Obama is and was NWO from jump street.

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