Scott Horton Interviews Pat Buchanan

Scott Horton, September 01, 2011

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Pat Buchanan, conservative commentator and author of Suicide of a Superpower: Will America Survive to 2025? discusses his article “Why Are We Baiting the Bear?” about the Senate resolution declaring Abkhazia and South Ossetia the property of Georgia and demanding a Russian withdrawal; the region’s history since the Soviet breakup, including the 2008 war (in which Georgia was the aggressor, despite what John McCain adviser Randy Scheunemann said); looking for the Senate resolution’s true authors and backers, who are probably from the Georgia lobby; and the heartening cooperation of US oil companies and the Russian government.

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Pat Buchanan is an American politician, author, syndicated columnist and broadcaster. Buchanan was a senior adviser to American presidents Nixon, Ford and Reagan, and was an original host on CNN’s Crossfire. He sought the Republican presidential nomination in 1992 and 1996. He ran on the Reform Party ticket in the 2000 presidential election. He co-founded The American Conservative magazine and launched a foundation named The American Cause. He has been published in Human Events, National Review, The Nation and Rolling Stone. He is the author of many books, including Churchill, Hitler, and The Unnecessary War: How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World.

49 Responses to “Pat Buchanan”

  1. Pat Buchanan is like a stopped clock, for two minutes out of 1440 he says something real. I remember him saying on 9-11 "If we weren't over there, they would not be over here." This comment on fighting Russia (and China too) seems in the same league.

  2. Pat Buchanan claims to be a devoted Catholic, yet his sycophantic defense of Russia betrays the Catholics of Ukraine and Georgia, who are faced with aggression and in increasing cases, persecution from the Orthodox. You have betrayed the Catholic faithful, Pat. And your defense of the ethnocidal, authoritarian government in Russia is a disgrace to the conservative movement. And for antiwar.com to pander to the corrupt, war-mongering Putin goverment is a disgrace to the "antiwar" cause.

  3. Pat Buchanan is now the Pope?

  4. Over many years I didn´t agree often with Pat on many subjects, but always admired his independent thinking – he said what he believed and not what his party or government wanted him to say, which if why I would always listen to what he had to say.

    Volodia my friend, since Pat is an independent thinker, disregarding the views of his government and political party, why in the world would you expect him to follow the political ideology of his religion?

    I agree with absolutely everything Pat said in this interview.

  5. Love Buchanan and Putin. Thanks for this.

  6. Yeah right. Georgia attacked South Ossetia. Wikipedia it. The Israeli media wrote stories on their evacuation of military advisers extensively at the time The Russians stopped in the city of Goti when they easily could of kept attacking and taking Georgian territory in 2008.
    Pat Buchanan is right the lobbyists got to Warmonger John McCain and Lindsey Graham, who spin incredible lies. The thing with a stopped clock is it returns to the right time every 12 to 24 hours. "We work with hustlers that work with the oligarchs to steal everything in Russia" is a historical fact.

  7. I am very glad that antiwar picked up on this story. I read his column days ago. The Neoconservatives love any conflict with Russian Federation. (Hell, they love any conflict that uses the US as their tool.) Is Russia a beautiful form of government, not really. We need to read the critics and Russian dissidents also. The United States still wants to police the world when Pat Buchanan is a gem. He is a real force for United States sovereignty.

  8. So our insane "leaders" now want to tussle with Russia? You just can't make this stuff up. It's so crazy it has to be true. And if McCain or Graham are part of this then it's bonafide nuts.

  9. I condemn you, Volodia. I made a mistake and pressed the thumbs up. I was so emotional that I got confused while I was intending to press thumbs down with all my might. The Roman Catholics can take care of themselves. It's the Orthodox Christians and the Russians who are hated by the Israelis, because they don't accept the evil deeds of the Zionists. The US, unfortunately, follows the Israeli line in all foreign policy. That's why we are at war with Israel's enemies in the Middle East. If we don't reverse course, we will soon lose all our wealth and liberty.

  10. Trident missile engineer Bob Aldridge -www.plrc.org-wrote on the missiles in Bulgaria, Romania and Poland: "Whether they are on ships or land, they are still a necessary component for an unanswerable first strike." To take out the Russian second strike force, i.e. the missiles surviving First Strike with Minuteman-3 and Trident-2. Both have an accuracy of 30 meters or less, enough to destroy a missile silo. The US Navy can track and destroy all enemy submarines simultaneously according to Bob Aldridge. The missiles in the three countries lead to Launch On Warning, probably by 2014. Bob Aldridge´s recent book America in Peril-Hope Publishing.

  11. The Roman Catholics will have to take care of themselves, especially with a series of Popes who are so sadly weak when it comes to the Zionist juggernaut. And don't kid yourself: the Israelis have a burning hatred for Catholicism, a hatred that began 2,000 years ago.

  12. The second paragraph if my reply above seems to have been lost, but what I was going to point out is that Russia, too, seems to have already fallen under the influence of Washington and Tel Aviv, if their recogniztion of the Libyan "rebels" is anything to go by (though please God I am wrong about this).

  13. One interesting thing here is that the georgian aggression was spearheaded by Israeli generals and advisors that had been shamed during the 2006 war with Hezbollah. The Israeli fiasco led to a lot of officers and planners had to go, and they were sent to Georgia (on request of Sakashvili) as he wanted to model his army after the IDF.

    And it is no coincidence that they attacked when the olympics began in Bejing when all the world's cameras were aimed at china.

  14. I don't know if Russian has recognized the rebels, but if they have, it is possibly just to buy time to see what next they (and China) might do to retain the businesses they have coordinated in Africa. The US is hellbent on preventing Russia and China from maintaining their present relationship with African countries.

  15. America can nener mind their own bissness and almost always take the wrong side they need a hole new government the one they have now has become tyranicel.And as far as what Bob Aldridge nows he would now the Russians and China now American tecnology and have their own its a sure thing.Soon it will be WW3 with America with a much weaker side.Get out off all the wars and follow the constitution.

  16. And your point is?

  17. Actually the Ukranian Catholics don't even follow Catholic orthodoxy or practices. They just recognize the primacy of Rome.

  18. The neocons love any war, except for doing the actual fighting themselves.

  19. Buchanan is completely wrong here: Russia bullying its neighbors is not the thing that should be tolerated.

    On the other side, the US State Department under Clinton and Obama sides with the KGB-Kremlin in the gas dispute against Ukraine. See more details here: http://ukr-nationalism.livejournal.com/1729197.ht

    IMHO Senate is completely right to support integrity of Georgia; Obama, Clinton and Buchanan are wrong to side with KGB-Kremlin.

  20. [...] a recent interview on Antiwar Radio paleo-conservative author and former Republican presidential candidate Patrick J Buchanan took on [...]

  21. Are you serious? How can you possibly interpret ANY of this within areligious context? This is a POLITICAL/NATIONAL conflict, pure and simple. When it comes to the politics of conquest, slaughter, and occupation, there is no "Catholic," "Orthodox," "Protestant," etc. There is only EVIL, which is the province of the one who despises "Christians" of any label!

  22. The good news is that WANTING to tussle and actually DOING it are two different things. Even Amoricon neocons are smart enough to know that "the World's 'Greatest' Superpower" will get it's a** handed to it if it ever dares to get aggressive with a REAL adversary that is capable of actually fighting back. In short, they're all verbal flatulence, all of it aimed at the Amoricon masses who are addicted to the aroma of verbal methane.

  23. Why can't Amerika for once just shut it's big mouth and start addressing the many many problems it is facing? Enough of this warmongering already…retired us army

  24. Volodia I gave you thumbs up but it was also a mistake .Going to have to be more careful.

  25. Buchanam, Paul , Nader and Larouche are of the few rational rational people left in the american politics.- The combined action of masons and media with the israelis at the top are the true despotic rule that has to be overcomed, otherwise, a nuclear conflict would be a certain possibility in the near future, Depopulation and World ruling with no worshiping God its the ultimate goal to achieve by Israel, Russia its the biggest stumbling block in her designs and the cherry on top of the cake its to demolish the Catholic Church.-

  26. Verbal methane? LOL!!! I can picture it now. These are the fan boyz who have their noses up their respective idols' asses waiting to inhale.

  27. So much for the good it did them. I guess it only proves that the IDF are not the ubermenschen they claim to be.

  28. There should be no one in government that is a dual citizen because you don't know were there loyalty lies.If you were to look dual Israelys vote for thing that are to Israels benifit and there are many of them in top government jobs.The truth is most can't be trusted.Then you have AIPAC that has way to much influence in America and we are fighting wars in Israels intersets not Americas with threats for more.The truth is the government has sold out the American people.

  29. Your rant is so familiar. Anybody can read Kyiv Post, to get familiarized with the Ukrainian diaspora, the coddled and funded by the neocons in this country. Get real. Your vocabulary demonstrates the Murdoch-style wrought-out false emotion, and the well worn out propaganda. So, Israel controls the future of Georgia, and that is their choice. Ukraine is going to suffer, sooner or later, from your type of blind nationalism. You do not believe in the rights of anyone in Ukraine, other then your Galician version, and your obessive catholic rants. Honestly, Ukraine would be BY FAR BETTER OFF to split now, while it can be done without bloodshed. You can keep your Galicia, and join Poland if you wish. What are you hoping for?

    Buchanan occassionally hits on the truth. But he is most of the time lost in weeds of nostalgia for this countrys real or imagined past.

  30. What is a "dissident"? Is Pat Buchanan a "dissident"? For as long as we cannot move on from the last century in our ideas of the world, we are doomed to making bad mistakes. Russia has moved on, whatever one may say about it. We have moved on as well, and not in the positive direction. Yet, stuck in the past, we still see other countries as imperfect, and ours as perfect, and completely entitled to give lectures to others.

  31. America doesn't bully countries?

  32. You don't know what you are talking about. The reason for the terrorist threat against us is our own foreign policy. This is not to defend the terrorists, but it is an explanation as to why they have attacked us. It was our own politicians who brought them here, just as when some fool throws rocks at a hornets nest.

  33. Wrong. Mr Buchanan is not speaking of Russian persecution of Catholics. He is speaking about sticking our nose in someone else' business. Why didn't the US do something when the USSR shot down a civilian Korean airliner killing a Congressman?

  34. Proven fact Georgia Attacked Sth Ossettia AND RUSSIA, not the other way around,

    Russia had and still has UN security Council authorisation as the OFFICIAL UN peacekeepers to the region, noting the US has not vetoed that in the several annual reviews of the peacekeeping forces. What we have here is UN Peacekeepers actually doing their job stopping one country attacking another!

    Fact Russias response against Georgia was measured, Russia only took enough territory to stop shelling or Rocket attacks on Sth Ossetia, and to stop flanking Manoevers by Georgian troops, they COULD have attacked the Capital, they COuld have attacked the Oil Pipe Lines they didnt.

    Now if a country attacked the US those very same Hawkish Politicians in the US would go ballistic maybe even literally! Yet if their so called Allies (which I might add they are not) attack Russia on her own soil they BLAME RUSSIA!

    Georgia at the time Attacked Russia even FOX news said as much for 48 hours UNTIL they realised that isnt the story that the US politicians they favor wanted, then it suddenly changed back to the Russians were at Fault.

  35. Hello Bianca,

    Genocide and hate is a part of your Soviet soul,
    so your threat of bloodshed is not surprising in the least.
    The Soviets tried to destroy Ukrainian independence and language
    and failed, despite the tens of milions slaughtered.
    Unfortuantely there are still zombies like you and Putin who think
    the impossible is possible.
    You talk of Ukraine suffering, but it's the Russian people that are
    suffering from their denial of their history of genocide, which
    continue to this day against the glorious Chechen people.
    My recommendation to you, if you are a Christian, is to find a church
    that doesn't preach xenophobia, hate and conquest, like the ROC.

  36. US sides with Georgia simply because that small country looks like a valuable piece of real estate for both IDF and Pentagon. Nothing to do with Catholics of Georgia lol – Georgians are Orthodox as far as I remember, Volodia Musyak,,, just like the majority of Ukrainians are Orthodox and Uniates. Catholics are Polish, you probably, too.

  37. Pat is absolutlly correct if the Georgia did not attack those to provinces in which most of the people are "native" Russians and want tobe with Russia.
    It was okey for Georgians to live the USSR but not for Russians to leave Georgia?
    Most of aour "Senator s are paid by lobist to look for the interest of others then for ourself.
    Stup messing with theBEar wi got many enemies and some day we will need their help.
    Orthodoxy abnd Catolisisam same Christianity.
    Hats off to Pat

  38. But the missiles in Bulgaria, Romania and Poland will probably lead to Launch On Warning by 2014. For that reason Brigadier Harbottle stated, "They are bloody fools in the Pentagon."

  39. Also because they don´t seem to believe in Nuclear Winter or think they can minimize it sufficiently by attacking missile silos with Minuteman-3 and Trident-2 according also to Professor Paul Rogers.

  40. The problem is that the Pentagon aims to achieve a disarming first strike capability and this leads to Launch On Warning, probably by 2014.

  41. I like Buchanan for the following reasons: (1) He's no Goddamn warmonger; (2) he's a noninterventionist regarding foreign policy, and (3) he's not afraid to call Israel out.

  42. This is delusional. What does religion have to do with Russia, Ukraine and Georgia?
    What does religion have to do with politics in countries that are not theocracies?

    Even if we assume that religion matters in politics and in your case the "Catholic" church, how can you explain that a monarch in the Vatican can sponsor kids terrorism for decades without remorse? His priests are still abusing millions in Africa, Asia and even in north America with total impunity?
    Pat could never have come closer to supporting such crimes if he was the pope? (I am talking about Pat the author become from his writings he still has all his senses!! he's not a priest)

  43. Larouche is rational? Maybe you're the one with a few screws loose in your head.

  44. Your comment shows you know very little about Orthodox-Catholic relations in the post-Soviet sphere. It's no wonder that you didn't post your full name, so as not to embarrass yourself. Please stop exposing your ignorance on matters that you know next-to-nothing about.

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