Scott Horton Interviews Will Grigg

Scott Horton, December 14, 2011

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Will Grigg, blogger and author of Liberty in Eclipse, discusses how a cattle-trespass dispute between a North Dakota farmer and the local sheriff escalated into a “full spectrum military response,” including a Predator drone used for surveillance, and the arrest of the farmer, his wife, daughter and three sons; the greatly expanded scope and definition of domestic terrorism laws from the post-Oklahoma City AEDPA through 9/11 and the PATRIOT Act; why private citizens targeted by the government always seem to live in “compounds;” and the UAV lobby’s effort to get unmanned drones into police and sheriff departments around the country.

MP3 here. (19:50)

Will Grigg writes the blog Pro Libertate and is the author of Liberty in Eclipse.

25 Responses to “Will Grigg”

  1. Man’s rights — or nature’s organic laws?

    Rev Aaron Elijah Colyer
    “sovereign and unalienable rights that belong to ALL people.”

    As we Americans have the most ingrate and greedy society the world has ever know, as most all of the 51% most aggressive and wealthy feel that we are “Empire USA” and should be proud of it, for a moment let us try and figure out the root cause of it.

    As Thomas Jefferson was a most ingrate slave owner, so ingrate as to sell his personal slaves into perpetual slavery upon his death, surely he had a most perverse idea of what natural law and our organic freedoms are all about, he being totally ignorant even of where they came from. For he did write all by himself a most corrupt state religion called,

    Declaration of Independence
    “All men are created equal (in ability to achieve wealth),
    that they are endowed by their Creator with certain
    unalienable Rights… Life… the pursuit of Happiness(wealth).”

  2. Problem is, the Rev Aaron and 70% of Americans who profess to be Christians, they are making a mockery and a hypocrite of their “Creator,” who declared that we are slaves of all,

    Matthew 5:38
    “You have read that it was spoken by Moses,
    ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ I now say to
    you, Do not use force to overcome evil. Instead,
    whenever you are slapped on the right cheek,
    turn to them the other.”

    Grand scheme of things is, the Bill of Rights started out legalizing slavery in the homeland from 1791 to 1865, and now ends up legalizing slavery in our colonies of Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Palestine, Israel, Haiti, Honduras and soon to be bombed Iran and Venezuela.

    Corruption is, if life is an “unalienable right” that we deserve, then it is absolute, we deserve the food and wealth needed to live. Then it also must be absolute that we deserve to “Be All You Can Be,” to earn all you can earn, take all you can take, own all you can own and to be a dictator over all who are on land that you own.

  3. Whereas, if life is a free gift from nature, our right to pursue happiness guaranteed by the organic laws of nature, then this day of life is more then any man deserves. Then it is absolute, we own nothing, everything we have belongs to those who have less then us, and most guilty should we feel if ever we miss an opportunity to give all we can give.

  4. Giving, like a 2011 model drone, gotta clear the showroom for next years model, maybe the headline might better read *GUILT by acquisition*

  5. Words of Putin — They satisfy me to the very guts of my soul.

    “Vladimir Putin blasts John McCain as a war criminal

    In his strongest outburst against America in years, the Russian prime minister alleged that Col Gaddafi's death had been meticulously planned and executed by Washington.

    "Who did this?," he asked rhetorically when discussing the late Libyan leader's death during a televised question and answer session designed to smooth his return to the Russian presidency next year. "Drones, including American ones. They attacked his column. Then US Special Forces, who should not have been there – they brought in the so-called opposition and fighters, and killed him without court or investigation."

  6. A former KGB spy famous for his hostility towards Washington, Mr. Putin made it clear he was generally opposed of US foreign policy and its imperious attitude.

    "Sometimes it seems to me that America does not need allies, it needs vassals," he commented. "People are tired of the dictates of one country."

    He saved his most vicious comments for Mr. McCain, the US senator, however after clearly taking huge offence at a tweet composed by the US politician which read "Dear Vlad, The Arab Spring is coming to a neighborhood near you."

    Casting any pretence of diplomacy aside, Mr. Putin suggested that Sen. McCain was a crazed military veteran.

    “Mr. McCain is known to have fought in Vietnam. I believe he has enough civilian blood on his hands. Is it that he can’t live without such horrible disgusting scenes as the butchering of Gaddafi?” the Russian prime minister speculated.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/

  7. Cliches become cliches because they accurately express obvious truths; so it is with this tired old phrase "

    Sen. McCain is "mad as a hatter." He is an extremely dangerous fool because of his position in the senate as pawn, lick spittle, jester, runner dog for the far more clever neo-cons who lead him by the same ring in the nose that farmers use for bulls and hogs.
    Since McCain is so obviously mentally unstable, it is difficult to tell if he could us the insanity defense in court for his murders and treason to his country.
    Either way, he is a coward and a fool.
    Tiresias

  8. As I've said before… When will the American "Spring" occur and we can toss the bastards out who've lorded themselves over our lives for what seems to be ages? Is it only alright to babble about freedom when it's out of sight and out of mind? When a new revolution occurs within the CONUS will they gun us all down and thusly put to rest the myth of our nations founding? I mean, if it was alright for Jefferson, Adams and the rest to throw off the British yoke then they can't say it's wrong to do the same to the bastards in DC. But, of course, in THEIR eyes they're noble and holy and we're the ungrateful unwashed deserving of internment camps and missiles up the ass.

  9. McCain always reminds me of that lunatic in The Dead Zone who sends the missiles off saying, "hallelujah, hallelujah".

  10. Stop voting, with less than 1/3 eligible voters partaking in the scam how can they claim Legitimacy & Democracy. Then we can tell Obi-The-Hawaiian (which was annexed and never was part of US) you all have lost legitimacy and you all MUST leave. Preferably to a prison in gitmo with pink overalls after it has been returned to Cuba. And bring Russian election observers. That would be hoot, surly!

  11. "Sometimes it seems to me that America does not need allies, it needs vassals. People are tired of the dictates of one country. . . ."

    Vlad, I can dig it. You're right about McInsane, too.

  12. McInsane is a fascist at heart. He has no–zip, zilch, nada–regard for the Constitution and the rights of the individual. He's a grovel-in-the-dirt Israel-Firster. He's a warmonger.

    What would I like to see done with this sonofabitch? Either (1) have him committed, or (2) ship him to Israel–and tell him to stay there.

  13. Hey Scott , in which interview was it that you said you're glad that you live in the united states because at least all the fire is pointed out. I love what you said and I want to use that quote.

  14. "When they get cheap enough…." This was a very revealing statement. The US is writing the rules for international law on the use of drones, domestically and internationally. In the none so distant future of drones, which country can you imagine is going to dominate the world in drone usage, sales, and possibly abuses (in line with established US precedence)? China of course. China will mass produce them and sell them freely to our best friends and enemies on the world free market. They will have tens of thousands of them, probably with massive bases in Cuba and Venezuela, all acting within the precedence established by America. Perhaps we will end up regretting it all.

  15. McCain — Least dangerous option

    Now if we can’t dissuade our 51% most educated and wealthy from their folly, sufficient to get Ron Paul President, then who would be our next pick of the litter?

    Well, we don’t want a repeat of the bad history that has allowed the Bush-Obama Administration to remain dictator over America for 12 years non-stop. For would have expected but us that a Professor of Constitutional law like Obama, who ran as a peace-nook even, could succeed in three short years the complete destruction of all “unalienable rights” and turn mother earth into global plunder for our multinational corporate rich.

    So, how about McCain, is he not the war-hawk big mouth who wants the biggest military ever? For surely he would just barely squeak into office and be powerless to change much of anything for the worst.

    One obstacle would be his low grade intelligence, but speech writers can do wonders. Keeping in mind that, bless our darling mainstream public, the politician mainstream media portrays as the most intelligent always wins.

  16. Thought the "Stasi" (!) SPLC should get its word in edgewise. http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligenc
    Grigg says he knows next to nothing about the Sovereigns. He seems to know lots about lots, but nothing about something which is at the center of the story.
    Weird.
    Somehow I don't think Grigg is giving us the straight poop.

  17. [...] Palestinians. John Glaser explained that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are not improving or ending. Will Grigg warned of the rise of domestic drones and the police state. Glenn Greenwald talked about the [...]

  18. I'm pretty sure it was in the most recent interview with Anthony Gregory.

  19. POLICE STATE PERFECTION

    So, a farmer owns the hay in the belly of six cows, a neighbor owns the cows, and some legalized killer commits a criminal action by stealing the farmers hay without just compensation.

    And so, in Empire USA, is it a democracy where police establish peace by bringing people together, or is it a police state designed to destroy the peace by driving people apart?

  20. OCCUPY MOVEMENT — OF THE 51% MOST WEALTHY

    Yes occupiers are broke, but only temporarily as they are most all at the low end of the upper half of society, the bottom of the barrow in the 40% educated middle-class actually.

    For my laboring class lower half of society, we with no education but some high school, we have yet to be invited to join their movement, they apparently not even knowing that we exist. For the term “laboring class” has not been seen in media since the 1950’s, for as the brainwash goes — your either poor, middle-class or rich.

    Truth is, either your of the 49% uneducated who do manual labor, or your of the 51% most educated and wealthy who hoard all the wealth.

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  22. STATEHOOD — WILL IT HELP?

    Nay Lin Maung
    “Palestine.. Do not give up statehood…”

    Problem is, the Palestine Authority represents the upper half of society, the most educated half with all the wealth and they refuse to share the wealth with the lower half. And until Hamas is given the right to achieve its goal, equality for the lower half of society, giving statehood to the Palestine Authority is not going to change anything.

  23. Grigg's perspective is quite enlightening,

    as is Rockwell's…
    http://youtu.be/zrzMhU_4m-g

  24. This is Rev Aaron Elijah Colyer and I don't think you have any clue about me or what I believe so please do not misrepresent me… I believe EXACTLY what I stated, "SOVEREIGN AND UNALIENABLE RIGHTS BELONG TO "ALL" PEOPLE" not just Jews or Christians or Muslims or Blacks or Whites or Men or Women ALL PEOPLE… I don't know you and I do not appreciate you using my name and quote to smear people of faith.

  25. If you had any understanding you would know that the term "slave" also means "Servant" the word "minister" also means "servant" and as TRUE believers of Christ we are to serve others and help those in need, to fight for justice and equality (peacefully and nonviolently of course)… It's real easy to intentionally misquote scripture to say anything you want it to say, the hard part is to actually study if for it's deeper meanings, maybe you should try it.

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