Scott Horton Interviews Gareth Porter

Scott Horton, December 21, 2011

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Gareth Porter, independent historian and journalist for IPS News, discusses his article “How Maliki and Iran Outsmarted the US on Troop Withdrawal;” the Iran-brokered deal that protected Moqtada al-Sadr’s militia, granted Prime Minister Maliki much-needed political support, and united Iraq’s power structure against US occupation;¬†how the US screwed up plans for an Iraqi client state (you support the minority faction with a tenuous hold on power, not the majority that doesn’t need propping up); why an occupying mercenary army in Iraq is unworkable, so long as legal immunity is off the table; and how the religious divide in the Middle East will keep Shia Iran and Iraq closely aligned against Sunni Saudi Arabia.

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Gareth Porter is an independent historian and journalist. He is the author of Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam. His articles appear on Counterpunch, Huffington Post, Inter Press Service News Agency and Antiwar.com.

18 Responses to “Gareth Porter”

  1. Will you ever address 911

  2. Smokescreen of 9-11 — How it blinds the mind by burning the emotions

    Empire building, brutal imperialism for the purpose of plunder,
    this generated the vengeance that caused 9-11.

    So, is it not a form of mental paralysis to be so focused on the mechanics of 9-11, so mesmerized by who dynamited what on 9-11, that you have no ability to see the light and work to end the vengeance that will surely cause another 9-11?

  3. EMPIRE USA — GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS

    Gareth Porter
    “This disaster in Iraq is yet another sign of how our National Security
    State has control over the White House as well as Congress. And
    that this political system no longer has the ability to reflect the
    popular will — of how US policy should be in the world.”

    And in the grand scheme of things, also we must add the Military Industrial Complex, also the end game of a 10% ruling class comprised of High Society and a Country Club-class having an ability to own 90% of the wealth.

    And finally, we have the slave drivers of society who get to keep the last 10% wealth by making sure the lower half of society do all the manual labor for starvation wages, the most ignoble 40% of society who all own great jobs, terrific homes and deluxe healthcare, the gods of society we glorify as the intelligent middle-class.

  4. Scott – it was "you" who was insisting on the probability of Iraq kicking the US troops out of their country. Experts argued with you or straddled the fence, but you stuck to your feelings and were correct. You deserve and get my highest congratulations.

  5. I think Scott was 'massaged' in that direction by Patrick Cockburn, who consistently insisted on Scott's show that the US had no other option but to leave.

  6. Iraq war orphans — Are they also laughing all the way to the bank?

    Before our War on Iraq, all of their oil was nationalized, not a drop privatized and all that black gold was traded not in US dollars.

    But, look at us now and look at the big smiles on the greedy faces of our corporate rich.

  7. EMPIRE USA — LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT

    IRAQ WAR — A most satanic slaughter and baby butchering premeditated massacre, and most profound, a crime against humanity executed with criminal intent by the most educated and wealthy 51% voting majority the world has ever known.

  8. It was not "Vengeance" that caused 9.11.

    That is progressive, liberal, leftist GateKeeper BlowBack BalderBull-Bollocks (aka BS). It is also neoliberal, neoconservative, fascist GateKeeper "They Hate Our Freedoms" BB-B BS.

    The "mental paralysis" is between the ears and in the belly of those who, from Day 0 — September 11, 2001 — have insisted that there are "more significant, more pressing, more important" things to be concerned with than WHAT Actually, Really Happened on 9.11, and HOW it Actually, Really Happened, and WHY it Actually, Really Happened, and, above all, WHO Actually Really MADE it Happen.

    And they thus dismiss any concern with TRUTH as a distraction, and thus dutifully and diffidently embrace "The Official Conspiracy Story" and thus, aid and abet and are thereby directly complicit in the insanity and obscenity that is the so-called "War" Against so-called "Terrorism."

  9. if this is to be believed, Iran is already being bombed http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-173099/US

    just like candidate Newt said he would

  10. it aint USA empire ..

    it is zionist empire

  11. Interestingly enough, a SEARCH of the Islamic Republic News Agency, the stated source of the Daily Mail Online declaration that "US missiles'hit Iranian village'" has no story at all like that.

    Curiouser and curiouser……

    Check it out for yourself at: http://irna.ir/ENIndex.htm

  12. Wait a minute……

    i thought it was 1% – 99%. Not 10% – 90%.

    Somebody is seriously arithmetrically challenged here.

  13. At top of article is written : "Date created: 22/03/2003"
    READ

  14. That didn't exactly clear things up, to be honest.

  15. DEMOCRATIC PERFECTION

    A long ten years of occupation has Empire USA had — to accomplish its all encompassing goal, a perpetual civil war in Iraq such that it never again get around to nationalizing its oil fields.

    So, comes now Prime Minister Maliki to be rock solid in his dictatorship, so solid that he just issued a warrant for the arrest of his highest ranking opponent, the Vise President no less. A standard procedure we will just have to get use to, as all of Iraq politicians are of the 25% most aggressive and wealthy, all are glory hounds and most power hungry.

    For what has been set in place by such occupation corruption, is a two class society where the 51% most educated and wealthy always vote to hoard all the power, while the laboring class lower half endure all the misery of poverty. Therefore,

    NEW LAW
    No one in Iraq who is of the 25% most wealthy
    shall be allowed to vote, hold public office or in
    anyway participate in politics.

  16. DEMOCRATIC PERFECTION

    A long ten years of occupation has Empire USA had — to accomplish its all encompassing goal, a perpetual civil war in Iraq such that it never again get around to nationalizing its oil fields.

    So, comes now Prime Minister Maliki to be rock solid in his dictatorship, so solid that he just issued a warrant for the arrest of his highest ranking opponent, the Vise President no less. A standard procedure we will just have to get use to, as all of Iraq politicians are of the 25% most aggressive and wealthy, all are glory hounds and most power hungry.

    For what has been set in place by such occupation corruption, is a two class society where the 51% most educated and wealthy always vote to hoard all the power, while the laboring class lower half endure all the misery of poverty. Therefore,

    NEW LAW
    No one in Iraq who is of the 25% most wealthy
    shall be allowed to vote, hold public office or in
    anyway participate in politics.

  17. HERO GENERALS — OR GUTLESS WONDERS?

    Every statesmen and politician in all the neighboring nations surrounding Pakistan, they know full well that the US military wasted the 26 sleeping and helpless troops — to humiliate, degrade and terrorize into submission the Pakistan generals.

    So, if these generals be such gutless wonders as to not forever evict Empire USA from their air and soil, then a Revolution shall soon crash down upon them.

  18. Didn't clear things up about what?

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