Scott Horton Interviews Philip Giraldi

Scott Horton, May 08, 2012

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Former CIA officer Philip Giraldi discusses his article “Iran’s Tactical Strength;” the conclusion of US war simulations studying Iran’s likely retaliation to an Israeli air strike; why the media and government officials from the US and Israel are suddenly less hawkish on Iran; the decade-long scare campaign that Hezbollah sleeper cells are all over the Western Hemisphere; the unlikely story of the CIA capturing explosives-ready underwear in Yemen, which supposedly prevented a terrorist attack; the US government’s contradictory claims that Al Qaeda is decimated, yet also a rapidly expanding threat justifying more foreign interventions; and why the events of 9/11 deserve a complete reexamination.

MP3 here. (39:40)

Philip Giraldi, a former CIA officer, is a contributing editor to The American Conservative and executive director of the Council for the National Interest. He writes regularly for Antiwar.com.

36 Responses to “Philip Giraldi”

  1. Oops! one got through! (a 9/11 skeptic, that is)
    So, will antiwar.com now be censoring Philip Giraldi as they have done with Paul Craig Roberts in the past?

  2. Thanks, great interview ! According to Niels Harrit, Uni of Copenhagen, and 8 more scientists nano-thermite was used. Nobody has suggested that OBL had access to nano-thermite.
    US/NATO claims that the missiles in Eastern Europe are to protect us from Iran and N.Korea. However, Der Spiegel 49/2011 tells another story, namely that the Missile Shield in Eastern Europe has nothing to do with Iran or N.Korea. It will be fully operational by 2020. This leads to Launch On Warning and Accidental Nuclear War. But does it happen now and then ? http://www.mcremo.com ?

  3. Oh dear. I cannot believe how this interview degenerated into 911 truther bs.

    As for the plane and the debris… The planes are not made of lead, they are made of a very soft, light material and are basically aluminium cans with engines. If you would stomp on a coke can it turns from something that with an inner volume of 33cl to a very thin piece of aluminium with no inner volume. The same happens if you fly a plane into a building at high speed. It gets squished and leaves very little debris..

    You truthers give the govt. way too much credit. They are not as smart as you think, they cannot even deal with even the most basic stuff, let alone some conspiracy.

  4. Excellent! This is the first interview that I've heard on Antiwar radio that in anyway touches on the phony official 911 narrative. All credit to Phill Giraldi for having the courage, ballsand intellectual honesty to speak out.

    Scott's rather bolshy assertion that the plane that hit the Pentagon went 'into' the building like the two tower strikes, was/is patently absurd! The tower strikes showed very clearly that the 'shape' of the holes in the sides of the buildings that the planes made as they smashed into the buildings! This is exactly what was 'missing' in the case of the Pentagon strike, according to the video and photographic evidence that is available.

    Scott's rough dismissal of Dr Ray Griffin in the face of Phillip Giraldi's obvious recommendation of the same, was also very telling!

    To my mind anybody who has followed the 911 truth moment can not but be impressed by the sober intellectual core of the movement, and it is ridiculous for Scott to be dismissive because of some whacky fringe elements!

    I believe that Antiwar.com's biggest flaw is its unwillingness, for whatever reason, to face squarely the issues that Phill Giraldi just raised in this interview!!!!

    You usually have to go to Sibel Edmond's, Boiling Frogs Post, to hear that sort of plain-talking honesty about the 911 thing – but like a previous commenter has said, Antiwar.com censors these voices. (It will be interesting to see if Phill Graldi is dropped for becoming a heretic!)

  5. Scott, I am sorry to tell you that you too are a conspiracy nut – one man did not hyjack all four planes and fly them into their targets within hours of each other on the same day.

    You believe in the official US government conspiracy about a 19 Arabs (7 of whom were located after 9-11, alive and well, by BBC). You spend every day of you life criticizing that very same government for war crimes and other horrors, but completely accept its conspiracy theory.

    There are others in the world, who believe another conspiracy theory in which that same government (or powerful members of it) carried out the attacks on 9-11. For those millions of people, the truth is out in the open, with the arrogant perpetrators making certain that there are no more investigations. (Re: the US congress held hearings on the JFK assassination, found it to have been a conspiracy and recommended an investigation, but there was never an investigations, regardless of the findings and recommentdations from congress).

    So Scott, there are two conspriacy theories and you chose to side with the official government version. That´s OK, but there are people who would find that rather nutty too.

  6. As far as I'm aware this is the closest anyone has come to asking bush about foreknowledge-
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsIq5rBoZcA

    it wasn't a direct question about foreknowledge, but even so Bush seemed pretty uncomfortable with it, shame they don't pack those conferences with real journalists as opposed to soft ball throwers, then perhaps someone would have followed up and confronted him with the quote about "covering your ass".

  7. Scott is covering for his ethnic buddies. By the way, Doug. If you haven't watched the Mike Delaney video documentary '9-11 Missing Links', I would highly recommend that you do so as soon as possible.

    Remember the old Cui Bono rule, people. Who Benefits? One and only one nation in the middle east – or, in any other part of the world, for that matter – benefits from maneuvering the USA into going to war for the next 100 years against all of the endless list of enemies of the State of Israel.

  8. The Lone Gunmen pilot is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRtqQLMAZek

  9. Dig Arabia Hamirs for where is the poor $80T gone.

  10. Thanks, Mr. Giraldi. America needs more people like you. As for Scott, maybe he should look for another job.

  11. I think some of you guys are being a little too harsh on Scott. He has to keep in mind, as I'm sure all the antiwar.com staff has to, that there are legions of people out there who seek to destroy this website's credibility. And one of the best ways to do that is to label it a fringe, conspiracy theory site of paranoid extremists. All I am saying is, they have to be very, very careful when it comes to speculation on such matters.

    Me personally, I remain agnostic as to what actually took place that day.

  12. Either this was intentional or one of the most amazing coincidences in the history of the world! Very eerie! I remain agnostic on this issue, but I am glad that there are people out there digging and questioning.

  13. Facts are sacred. Niels Harrit, Uni of Copenhagen, and 8 more scientists found nano-thermite. Nobody has suggested that OBL had access to nano-thermite !!!???

  14. Yeah, Israel's machinations/false flag ops–even against the U.S.!–are endless.

  15. You mention JFK's assassination. Earl F. Rose, M.D. died recently at age 85. Who was Doctor Rose? He was Dallas medical examiner at the time.
    He tried to prevent the removal of the President's body from Parkland Hospital, insisting that it remain in Dallas for autopsy. After a tussle in the corridor, the President's entourage and Secret Service men rushed the bronze casket containing the body out of the hospital.

    Doctor Rose was a competent big-city M.E. with considerable experience with violent death, including gunshot wounds. If the President's body had remained in Dallas, Rose would no doubt have made a sound, careful autopsy, thus avoiding the alleged errors and omissions of the Bethesda Naval Hospital pathologists.

    History turns on stuff like this.

  16. lewrockwell.com doesn't censor the "heretics" — doesn't seem to harm their credibility.

  17. Come the fuck on! Don't get into this conspiracy theory crap! I expect shit like this from LaRouchePAC but not here. Justin Raimondo needs to pull Scott aside and tell him not to turn antiwar.com into a fringe-quack-mindless-freak-site. If antiwar.com does get more fringe you can bet that the more serious and well respected people such as Andrew Bacevich, Eric Margolis, Michael Scheuer, Ron Paul (etc.) will be turned off and consider it a liability to be associated with this BS.

    Scott, wake up! You're a bright dude, you don't need this X-Files shit!

  18. You're trying to regulate the conversation.

  19. ' ". . . The Israeli origin should be totally covered while attention should be shifted to any other possible factor . . ." –Benjamin Givli, head of Israeli military intelligence, outlining an Israeli terror campaign to be blamed on Moslem extremists. Documented during the inquiry into Israel's "Lavon Affair." ' (also seen in Livia Rokach's book.)

    …now how would they swing that? Kinda makes you wonder: 'when weren't they "caught"?'

  20. How could the "Israeli art students" set up cameras on a hill outside N.Y. expecting the event without foreknowledge ? Israel benefitted. I agree, let´s stick to FACTS. One fact: Nano-thermite was used, confirmed by 9 scientists, one of them Niels Harrit, Uni of Copenhagen. Another fact: Nobody has suggested that OBL had access to nano-thermite. But Mossad and the CIA do have nano-thermite.

  21. LaRouche long predicted even before Ron Paul the global economic collapse and how and where they would strike the hardest first.

    LaRouches take on 9/11 is that it was pulled of through the Saudi- British BAE-Al-Yamamah weapons for money laundering operation for financing black operations like terrorism and proxy wars.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quYYA1wtUwc

  22. A good chunk of 9/11 research out there is junk with the conspiracy even more complex than the official one on 9/11 that military planes were used instead of civilian aircrafts, a missile hit the Pentagon, Flight 93 phone calls were faked, the Bin Ladin confession video was a fraud, no planes, no hijackers, etc which I think at least in some instances are being deliberately financed and promoted to steer investigation against the legitimate aspects on 9/11.

    It turns out that Adnan Khashoggi is helping finance the 9/11 truth movement
    http://www.madcowprod.com/MC6812004.html

  23. Griffin has written 14 books on 9/11 according to wikipedia.

    14 books in 10 years. Do you really think his work is thoroughly researched and fact checked given the amount of content he has published or is he just putting into his books questions and research others have done on the internet without verifying and fact checking them or the sources?

    A good 9/11 book you would expected years of research and interviews with eye witnesses and documents.

  24. "You're trying to regulate the conversation."

    No. My intention was to try to end the conversation.

    "LaRouche long predicted even before Ron Paul the global economic collapse and how and where they would strike the hardest first."

    That's actually not true. In his 1974 election campaign Ron Paul was talking about the dangers off getting off the gold standard and fiat money. Their views couldn't be different either. LaRouche wants to bring back Glass–Steagall, end globalization and despises free trade which is in stark to contrast to Ron Paul's embrace of Austrian economics and free market capitalism. However, neither of them gave any type of precise prediction during that time period.

    "LaRouches take on 9/11 is that it was pulled of through the Saudi- British BAE-Al-Yamamah weapons for money laundering operation for financing black operations like terrorism and proxy wars. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quYYA1wtUwc"

    I don't have the time to watch this but I saw a video of LaRouche saying "9/11 Was A Total Inside Job" on the Alex Jones Show. "Total" implies from bottom up to top down in my book…

  25. If the purpose of this world was to prove the good in it, then Iran would win as it holds the moral high ground.

    Whereas, if the grand scheme of things is to reach the ultimate conclusion of wars, so that everyone can see the logical reasons for not doing wars, then Empire USA must have its days of glory under the sun.

  26. @Brian

    Libertarian candidate Bill Still noted it was Rockefeller that promoted Ludwig Von Mises and Austrian economics in the US.

    "Many readers may be surprised to learn the extent to which the Graduate Institute and then Mises himself in the years immediately after he came to United States were kept afloat financially through generous grants from the Rockefeller Foundation. In fact, for the first years of Mises’s life in the United States, before his appointment as a visiting professor in the Graduate School of Business Administration at New York University (NYU) in 1945, he was almost totally dependent on annual research grants from the Rockefeller Foundation.

    Even after he finally landed the position at NYU, where he remained only a visiting professor until his retirement in 1969, his salary was paid for not by NYU, but from funds contributed by generous private supporters."
    http://s6.zetaboards.com/Bill_Still_Reforum/topic

  27. I don't have the time to watch this but I saw a video of LaRouche saying "9/11 Was A Total Inside Job" on the Alex Jones Show. "Total" implies from bottom up to top down in my book…

    Yes they have assets in the US including in the government and intelligence community.

  28. "You truthers give the govt. way too much credit. They are not as smart as you think, they cannot even deal with even the most basic stuff, let alone some conspiracy. "

    Yup. I don't get how so many people will admit that government is so incompetent and then turn around and say they perpetrated a complex conspiracy of some kind. Go figure.

    I grew up with a coupe of conspiracy theorists dndn so I know how dogmatically religious they can be about it.

  29. Time to breastfeed Obama from banderz Oil to stay Gayne$$

  30. Early in Raymondo's The Terror Enigma, it was reported that the Israeli round up was heavy with intel and explosive specialists. Other facts include a history of foiled frame-ups of Muslims/Arabs (Lavon Affair, USS Liberty), and an extraordinary influence on US media. The latter makes it difficult to definitively say what would constitute them being 'caught' in the public (and even the 'truther') eye …if, e.g., Dem Moozlims in the post-event roundup had any connection with explosives expertise, given recent history, the same media would insinuate someone had been 'caught' whether an accusation could stick or not. According to Givli above, that's been consistent with policy in the case with an 'Israeli origin.' What does such an operation 'look like' otherwise?

  31. In this case however, a large number of people in the world (maybe even a majority) do not believe the "official" "U.S. government" version of events…so who is on the fringe here?

  32. Too much credit for what? They're stupid, they're ignorant, they're arrogant, they're delusional, they're evil, and they have nothing but contempt for the intellect of the common man. That's why they did it, and that's why they got caught. Where do you see a problem?

  33. Please explain, how did Hyman Brown get himself on national TV, on 9/11, and get himself falsely introduced as the "architect" and the "project engineer" of the WTC towers, when in reality he had nothing to do with them? Why did the imposter then go on to make a series of demonstrably false statements about the design and construction of the towers – in support of the laughably absurd "official" theory that "fire" brought down the buildings?

    And while you're at it, please explain the following: If the alleged "anthrax killer", Bruce Ivins, manufactured and processed the anthrax from his workplace, the USAMRIID laboratory at Ft. Detrick, why wasn't his boss fired (or even reprimanded)? If Ivins did all this on company time and at company expense, instead of doing what he was supposed to be doing, why was there not a massive shakeup of the management staff?

    Lastly, please explain how Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab (underwear bomber #1) was able to board NW Airlines Flight 253 without a passport and without going through security?

    Since you obviously have all the answers, please enlighten everyone else. Thanks.

  34. “Settlers” — People exterminators

    There is a telling parallel between America and Palestine, for both countries were invaded by high achieving, aggressive and brutal Europeans, both countries for over a thousand years were occupied by non-aggressive indigenous natives so peaceful that they needed not a government or an army.

    Comes now the brutal European “settlers” in both countries to have as a highest priority to ethnic cleanse their indigenous natives our of existence.

  35. "History turns on stuff like this."
    Yes and no. While it seems clear (look at the Church Committee records) that there are questions about the assassination, and there are facts being covered up or not clear, the idea that Kennedy was somehow "terminated" because not aggressive enough, or blocking the Agency's or the the Pentagon's machinations in the world is simply NOT borne out by the evidence.

    The fact is that JFK was an über Hawk, for the most part, and had absolutely no inhibitions about inflicting terror and violence, whether it be in Cuba or Vietnam (with the various invasions, operations Mongoose, etc., or the fact that he was the person most responsible for escalating the conflict in South Vietnam from a covert one to an outright invasion). LBJ simply continued Kennedy's policies in Indochina.

    As for Cuba, here is a quote from part of the now-unclassified (since 1999) record pertaining to the various Castro assassination plots :
    "It became clear very early in our investigation that the vigor with which schemes were pursued within the Agency to eliminate Castro personally varied with the intensity of the U.S. Government's efforts to overthrow the Castro regime."

    "We cannot overemphasize the extent to which responsible Agency officers felt themselves subject to the Kennedy administration's severe pressures to do something about Castro and his regime. The fruitless and, in retrospect, often unrealistic plotting should be viewed in that light."

    This is not to defend the CIA or the Pentagon in any way, but just to emphasize the fact that the civilian administration is often responsible for the more hawkish foreign policies carried out by the various branches of the govt – and this goes for the releasing of the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki as well.

  36. FICTION
    Rob
    JFK… was the person most responsible for escalating the conflict in South Vietnam from a covert one to an outright invasion). LBJ simply continued Kennedy’s policies”

    FACT
    President Kennedy was wasted because he started to close down the Vietnam War, a well documented fact. And as considered worthless confusion by most everyone here is all the stuff posted by Rob, surely it would be absolutely impossible for Rob to not know that he was accomplishing nothing but confusion.

    So, who can anything good come out of a mind that intentionally causes confusion?

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