Scott Horton Interviews Steve Horn

Scott Horton, May 22, 2012

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Steve Horn, researcher and writer at DeSmogBlog, discusses the Chicago NATO Summit activists arrested and charged with conspiracy to commit terrorism and providing material support for terrorism; the two informants who infiltrated the group and possibly planted or invented evidence; the home-brew kit Chicago police apparently “mistook” for a Molotov cocktail-maker; the activists held in solitary confinement and held without charge for days; why the cops and feds are so afraid of the Occupy Movement; and why Wall Street banks are hiring private security.

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Steve Horn is a Research Fellow for DeSmogBlog. He joined the DeSmogBlog team in September 2011. Steve previously was a reporter and researcher at the Center for Media and Democracy, interned in Washington, DC with former U.S. Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI), and interned at the Rotary International world headquarters in Evanston, Illinois. In his free time, Steve is a competitive runner, with a personal best time of 2:43:04 in the 2009 Boston Marathon.

A graduate of the University of Wisconsin-Madison, majoring in political science and legal studies, his writing has appeared on AlterNet, PR Watch, The Nation, Truth-Out, FireDogLake, Common Dreams, Mondoweiss, Uganda’s Daily Monitor, Modern Ghana, the London Evening Post, and CleanTechnica.

9 Responses to “Steve Horn”

  1. The occupy movement is effective Scott, effective in changing people´s thinking on what is going on in their country. That is what frightens the establishment. Actually, everything frightens the establishment – throughout history they were the ones paying their $200 to get out of joining any standing army and doing anything and everything to keep the people (Indians, slaves, indentured servants) from getting together to demand any rights. Today they are the chicken hawks, better described as total cowards – make no mistake, they are wetting their pants, continuously, because they have so much to lose. During the Wall Street occupy they contributed $ 1.5 million to the policemen´s retirement fund because they were in a panic just imagining the idea that the police would refuse to do their bidding. The folks running things are from a different planet, they are so continuously frightened as to be pathetic. All movements have affects on them, all movements are good. How effective are these movements? Measure them by the reaction from the establishment.

    For example, we need a movement to educate policemen and their families, about the oath they took, the Constitution etc. Especially their kids need to be awakened to what their fathers are mixed up in, kids who go to the same schools as the rest of the population. Policemen and their families do not mix with the establishment; they mix with everyday citizens and need to be educated. They are mostly made up of very friendly and nice families.

    Have fun spooking the establishment, spooking them in very peaceful means, feed them scenarios that horrify them. Inventing a new currency to replace the dollar or trying to influence other countries to do so would bring on multiple heart attacks throughout the establishment. It should be easy, because they are cowards, cowards to their very core.

  2. Glad Scott brought up the bankers' and rulers' unreasonable fear of any opposition. They must feel so guilty that they imagine anyone out there could turn on them in a second, like an Afghan military trainee opening up on NATO. From our point of view, it seems like there is no real opposition. But perhaps we don't see how close people are to revolt. If they had some strategy, some goal, or some unifying cause, who knows what would happen?

  3. America is a dictatorship ruled by the voting majority, the 51% most wealthy, as they hoard all the wealth and impoverish as slaves the lower half of society.

    So, the corporate rich created the Occupy Wall Street movement as a counter-rebellion.

    Enough said, for wisdom is common horse sense, either you have it or you don’t.

  4. Some great points Walter. Recall that what happened in Madison also supports your argument; basically that the police joined Occupy.

  5. Obama is insane — Brennan a judge, jury and executioner

    Glenn Greenwald's latest article describes John Brennan as the head of a small group that decides who gets added to the drone assassination list.

    Surely, only an insane person goes around killing people he fears will do him harm, only an impartial jury has that right under law.

  6. High finance (banks to big to fail), the war materials industry and the oil industry, they have absolute control over our foreign policy.

  7. Bu$h_clinton_Obama "In Oil we Hunt": Aramcorpz 40% must be protected by 60% WB Oiltheft forever

  8. This is similar to what we had here in Canada two years at the G20.

    Dawn raids, preventive arrests and comically displays of 'terrorist' weapons. The two best arrests being a teenager dressed in fantasy gear (for a live D&D-type game) was thrown onto a parkbench at gun-point for having chainmail & padded arrows and a rural guy with a chain-saw strapped to the roof of his car. When these items were displayed by the police chief we literally began laughing at the conference.

    Imagine chain-saw wielding, chainmail-clad Occupiers – now that would put some unholy fear into the banksters!

    Talking to cops we found they were in a TRUE fantasy-land, worried about terrorists in the sewers and people brewing vats of poisonous super-glue behind the protest banners. It was like the Joker or Penguin was about to attack not police doing crowd control. That's probably a key reason why it became a disaster with 1000+ arrested, put in plastic-cuff, caged, starved, and mocked for no legal reason.

    At the end the media revealed the secret panoticon-style HQ the police were using to monitor and (unsuccessfully) coordinate the security and the head guy stated it was a sucessful event because they had almost shot down a small oblivious civilian aircraft but that had been avoided! I was speechless.

    Soon after the g20 the real terrorists did strike Toronto when the city had a major blackout due to ageing unmaintained infrastructure…

  9. Bottom Line=
    The constitutional right to assemble is defeated if Govt agents without any warrant can infiltrate such assemblies.

    While there are certainly instances that a informer or agent would need to infiltrate a meeting or citizens organization, it should require a court order signed by a Judge, and open to later review by the affected parties. It should also be subject to civil suit should the basis for such a infiltration warrant be found falty, deceptive or inaccurate.

    Basically, it should be extremely rare and extremely difficult for paid or sponsored govt agents, working in coordination with a Govt, to covertly attend, enter or join private citizens' meetings or organizations, since –
    1) this has a chilling effect on the core constitutional right to organize
    2) such infiltrating agents have a strong incentive to steer others to illicit acts
    3) its nearly impossible to determine what actions are the work of the private citizens, and what was sponsored by the govt infiltrator

    This is really the key issue and seems to be undiscussed. Unless I have a right to attend classified pentagon meetings or cabinet meetings at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, and turn the meeting to address/serve my own personal priorities or interests, NO GOVT AGENT or informant should be attending any private meeting in which it is announced that Govt informants / agents are trespassing and must leave.
    The sole exceptions would be probable cause in a warrant signed by a civilian judge,
    or, all 'classified' govt NSA meetings are now free to access by the general public at will.

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