Ray McGovern, veteran intelligence analyst for the CIA, joins Charles in studio to discuss George Bush’s criminal “authorization” of the torture of human beings, the arrogance of those who hold unlimited power, the details of the conspiracy between Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, Condoleezza Rice, and George Tenet to get it done, the Democrats’ refusal to do a thing about it, how the retroactive immunity in and the Military Commissions Act of 2006 makes it easier for foreign courts to indict these war criminals, the difference between the analytical and “Gestapo” side of the CIA, the recent ABC News torture conspiracy revelations, the question of retroactive immunity in the torture and NSA domestic spying cases, the supreme war crime and “accumulated evils” of aggressive war, the urgency of impeachment as a preventive measure against war with Iran, John McCain’s insane neocon crew and their desire for war with Iran, Elliot Abrams dangerous role in Iran policy and the centrality of Israel to the neocon agenda, the lies about Iran’s role in Iraq and his giving back of his commendation medal given to him by George H.W. Bush.

MP3 here. (58:23)

Ray McGovern was a CIA analyst for 27 years – from the John F. Kennedy administration to that of George H. W. Bush. He is a co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity.

Glenn Greenwald, civil libertarian, blogger and author, discusses the themes in his new book Great American Hypocrites: Toppling the Big Myths of Republican Politics, conservatives’ bogus anti-government rhetoric as they preside over the biggest growth of government ever, their contempt for the Constitution they claim to venerate as they consolidate all power constitutional and otherwise in the presidency, the legacy of William F. Buckley in destroying what was once conservatism with the ex-communism of the neoconservatives, the cowardice of the War Party’s leaders, the parallels between the media’s love for Bush in 2000 and for McCain today, the shallowness and self-serving narcissism of American media figures, Attorney General Mukasey’s lies about what the law says and does and fictional versions of phone calls between terrorists before 9/11 in order to justify further expansions of power over us. (Warning: Bill Hicks clip at the end includes bad language.)

MP3 here. (45:29)

Glenn Greenwald was previously a constitutional law and civil rights litigator in New York. He is the author of the New York Times bestselling books How Would a Patriot Act? and A Tragic Legacy. His brand new one is Great American Hypocrites.