Jon B. Eisenberg, partner in the law firm of Eisenberg and Hancock, discusses his article Suing George W. Bush: A Bizarre and Troubling Tale;” his clients’ lawsuit against the Bush administration for illegally tapping their phone, how the feds accidentally handed them evidence proving that the NSA illegally spied on his clients and their standing to sue, the Kafkaesque states’ secrets runaround insisted upon by the government in order to try to evade justice, his teams various successes and the path ahead.

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Jon Eisenberg is a partner at the law firm, Eisenberg and Hancock, LLP in San Francisco. He is the author of Using Terri: The Religious Right’s Conspiracy to Take Away Our Rights and The Right vs. the Right to Die: Lessons from the Terri Schiavo Case and How to Stop It from Happening Again.

Jacob Sullum, senior editor at Reason magazine, discusses his recent article “Would President McCain Obey The Law?”: the question of whether McCain will continue the criminal spying on its citizens as Bush has done and how he continues to flip-flop and squirm around to avoid answering the question.

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Jacob Sullum is a senior editor at Reason magazine and Reason.com and a nationally syndicated columnist. Sullum is the author of two critically-acclaimed books: Saying Yes: In Defense of Drug Use and For Your Own Good: The Anti-Smoking Crusade and the Tyranny of Public Health. Sullum’s weekly column is carried by newspapers across the U.S. including the New York Post, Washington Times, and Las Vegas Review-Journal.