Jeff Huber, blogger at Pen and Sword and At-Largely and author of Bathtub Admirals, discusses the empire’s disaster in Iraq, the danger of the Afghan occupation spreading into Pakistan, the unconstitutional “war powers act,” the difficulty of being an empire with no one but defenseless people to fight, the John McCain pathology of trying to win the Vietnam war by killing Iraqis, the so-called clash of civilizations and the pure evil that is Dick Cheney.

MP3 here. (34:21)

Commander Jeff Huber, U.S. Navy (Retired) commanded an E-2C Hawkeye squadron and was operations officer of a Navy air wing and an aircraft carrier. Jeff’s essays have been required reading at the U.S. Naval War College where he earned a master of arts degree in neoconservative studies in 1995. His satires on military and foreign policy affairs appear at Military.com, Aviation Week and Pen and Sword. Jeff’s novel Bathtub Admirals, a lampoon of America’s rise to global dominance, is on sale now.

The Other Scott Horton, heroic international human rights lawyer, journalist for Harper’s magazine and steadfast opponent of torture, discusses his new article for The New Republic, “Travel Advisory,” the Supreme Court’s reversal of the War Party’s end-run around habeas corpus, how Bush continually ignores Supreme Court decisions, the many war crimes committed by the Bush administration principals and their lawyers, how prosecution might proceed in foreign states, how “the war council” plotted the whole torture regime, the many people who have been killed under U.S. custody, the charade of the military tribunal system, how our policy of torture is the terrorists best recruiting tool and the danger of a total police state.

MP3 here. (44:18)

The Other Scott Horton is a contributing editor at Harper’s magazine and pens the blog No Comment. A New York attorney known for his work in emerging markets and international law, especially human rights law and the law of armed conflict, Horton lectures at Columbia Law School. A life-long human rights advocate, Scott served as counsel to Andrei Sakharov and Elena Bonner, among other activists in the former Soviet Union. He is a co-founder of the American University in Central Asia, and has been involved in some of the most significant foreign investment projects in the Central Eurasian region. Scott recently led a number of studies of abuse issues associated with the conduct of the war on terror for the New York City Bar Association, where he has chaired several committees, including, most recently, the Committee on International Law. He is also a member of the board of the National Institute of Military Justice, the Andrei Sakharov Foundation, the EurasiaGroup and the American Branch of the International Law Association.