Not even a full day had passed before newly reelected President Obama ordered another drone strike in Yemen.
A U.S. drone strike targeted a group of al-Qaida militants on the outskirts of the Yemeni capital Sanaa on Wednesday night, killing at least three terrorists, government officials said.
A White House spokesman did not respond to a request for comment. If it were a American strike, of course, it would have to have been authorized by Obama.
The drone war violates both domestic and international law, and the Obama administration’s vehement disdain for transparency in government is the only thing keeping it from public and legal scrutiny. Beyond the law, it’s terrorism.
fireworks celebration, but couldn't do it at home
Yesterday was Tuesday, after all.
Right, and the sun "rises" simultaneously all around the globe. Why is the world full of crackpots who believe there's actually a reason for time zones and the international date line. Way to go brain trust.
You're almost catching on now: Obama's CIA brain trust meets with him every Tuesday so he can sign off on updates to the kill list.
Everyone get out your tinfoil hats – something MAY have happened! And someone MAY be to blame! That = fact, right?
Because what other nation is bombing people with drones?
If they had never done it before, they might be given more of the benefit of the doubt. It looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck; but if you really want we can wait till the autopsy has been done to conclude that it is in fact more of the same old duck.
Please identify another country that is using, or even has, drones that could have been behind this?
A White House spokesman did not respond to a request for comment. If it were a American strike, of course, it would have to have been authorized by Obama.
I wondered how long it would take and I love the statement ( If it were a American strike ) WTF
Give the Pres-elect a break, folks. He's going for his second Nobel Peace prize.
It proved to be Very helpful to me and I am sure to all the commenters here ! It’s always nice when you can not only be informed, but also entertained…get the facts
It's sad to see false accusations like this.. fucking pathetic,,
There's nothing false about it. Obama is a full on drone-war monger. He admits it. Romney even agreed with him on it. WTF makes you think this is a "false accusation" beyond you're undying blind devotion to cults of personality like Obama?
How are you sure it's false? Wait a few days and you might find out it's true. Your jumping to conclusions as well.
Your right mike, will all the other military nations that actively use drones please stand up
You are SO right! Pathetic. Maybe if we don't listen they will SHUT UP
ASK A YEMENI… and NOT one that's benefitting from the American meddling that's feeding into the corruption there…
OK seriously ppl??? a country gets attacked we arent even 100% beyound shadow of doubt that it WAS an american attack but yet right away it was and its all Obamas fault?? REALLY??!?!?!?! Heres a thought process know for a fact that its what you thik it is before you go blaming an elected official and if ya didnt vote for Obama its whatever but dont hate just cuz he won and ur guy didnt. Grow up ppl
IT was Isrell and blamed it on Obama.
how many more presidents are ordering drone strikes?
Who else flies drones moron. Shove Obama.
wow and saying Grow up ppl is a VERY mature response sir!!
well who else is going around with drones killing people other then the US? Obama is not a saint obviously your blind faith stops you from seeing that, and if it was america and obama didnt authorize it then just shows hes not in control of the military in which case hes either guilty or incompetent
They dont KNOW i it was drones its called speculation and reporters need to get the facts BEFORE they blame anyone
Reporters need to get the facts? Really?!?! When have the reporters acted like journalists? Reporters would NEVER put President Obama in a bad light. Maybe he is waiting for more information to come in and not jump to conclusions.
If it wasn't true and there is nothing to hide, it wouldn't be that hard to put an end to that speculation. Transparency in government, not Secrecy.
I would also think that even more importantly, GOVERNMENTS need to get the facts. Especially when they are bombing people on the other side of the world and calling anyone within 100 yards of the "target" a terrorist.
First of all I can spell any God Damn way that I choose and UNLESS you have BEEN homeless you would have NO idea how hard it is to get a job when you dont have a home to begin with. Its a doable thing but its a bit difficult at the same time
Obama's actually killed american citizens overseas, including a 16 year old. This is a video of Cenk Uygur from the young turks and msnbc talking about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu1fmT9j_5c
Regardless of party, you have to not support this. We need to hold basic human rights above our petty party differences
its called covering up the truth and lying to people through mainstream media. dude, what other country has drone strikes?
IF YOU WERE A YEMENI YOU'D KNOW ,
how are those blinders working for ya?.. as the head of the administration he is the one to call out, as I recall
Its true IF it were an american attack that he WOULD call the shots but again its all speculation the reporter doesnt have the facts so whether its Barack or not how about researching a report and getting FACTS as opposed to assuming BEFORE you blame ANYONE for an attack?? yeah I know that would be WAY too logical right??
Are you implying that the administration doesn't have knowledge of whether there was a U.S. drone strike or not? That they have to do a research and they'll get back to us? That is not transparency at all. If our government is that dysfunctional that they can't answer a yes or no question because they are not sure if they did or not, then we are truly in trouble. But that is not the reason why they refuse to answer when confronted, the reason is they have to research for a better answer that will best serve them and their agenda.
No, you don't ever have to be worried of sounding too logical..believe me.
I think he's implying that anyone can make a vague statement about some bomb going off in Yemen and get away with it by claiming no response from the white house or whatever.. We should be stoked that we have 3 less terrorists in this world who devote their whole world to taking down america. You should be telling THEM to take off the blinders, not some one who isn't down to BLINDLY accept this article as fact. There have been plenty of confirmed drone strikes all around the Middle East.. better than boots on the ground
Three fewer TERRORISTS? That's what always reported, but in fact, in many…most …cases: Al Majala Attack http://www.youtube.com
I have news for you: The government is an entity comprised of a whole lot of people. Chain of command. Obviously, the administration needs to investigate what happened because chances are they weren't there to witness it. So you'll have to excuse them if they need some time to find out the truth themselves before they can then answer your "yes or no" question.
Hmmm, maybe you should tell Obama that! I seem to recall Obama blaming the attack on the embassy in Bengazi on a you tube video! So, maybe you all should follow your own advise before calling out someone else! Hypocritical rantings as per usual!
RIP English
lmao
dude, he has killed people with drones, end of story
Yea right we the ones awake will grow up as soon as you grow a brain and see what's going on around you.
"Yeeaaah, Obama won, DONT HATE." lol
As the wise saying goes, "Quit hatin muthafuckas quit hatin." -Lil Jon
YAAAAAYUH
Propaganda people c'mon man!
We're the only one's using drones over there, you idiot!! Why don't you grow up and see where this traitor is taking us stupid?
U have no clue what the hell I have been through in my 39 yrs. Have U ever been homeless any of you?? As in no car, no money and no shelter to go to cuz they are all full up?? Proly not but let me tell YOU what HE has done for ppl like me.. Because of him we can safely pitch a tent somewhere while we find jobs and get our own place W/O the police breathing down our necks. There are still a few places where homeless ppl are driven away or even arrested but he has worked on that and made it better. Becuz of him most shelters now have programs designed to motivate you to get that job and try to keep a job. Don't say it will never happen to you because N E one for ANY reason can be homeless.. TOrnadoes, Fires, Hurricanes earthquakes…. I lost my place to live a little over a yr ago because the whole building burned to the ground. Obama came personally and vowed to help us which he did. I am still struggling with everything that has happened in the past yr but knowing he cared enough to help was good enough for my vote. My friend is severely ill and she was getting ready to lose her insurance and would have had NO way to pay her medical bills BUT Obamacare picked up the tab and is continuing to.. thanks to that my friend is still alive. He isnt perfect but who is?
It is a shame Obama didn't teach you how to spell "you" and "because".
I would think being homeless and starving would be all the motivation I would need to "get a job and try to keep a job."
While it is nice that "he" was able to help you and you feel an emotional connection because "he" cared and personally did all of this for you, it does not have any bearing on the current discussion. Yes, he is capable of behaving like a decent human being and caring for others. He is also capable of lying, and willful deceit. No, he is not perfect. We are not expecting perfection. We are, however, expecting a higher level of accountability and a respect for human rights and justice that appears to be severely lacking.
While I may have never been homeless, I have had a number of trials in my life, and I continue to have them. We are not defined by what troubles come our way. We are defined by how we respond to those troubles.
ROFL! You lost your apartment building cause it burnt down, and Obama came and personally told you he would help ? Some people are so dumb though, If your apartment building burnt down, The owner had insurance, and you wouldn't be homeless, Fema / The Salvation army BOTH pay for people to be housed tell they can find somewhere else if that ever happens. Just like FEMA is in New Jersey etc helping rebuild, NOT obama. Your dumb if you think I would believe he came and wiped your ass, stop making up stories, Guess what ? OBAMACARE ISN'T IN EFFECT YET MORON, Its still going through the courts… God your such a bad liar.
Levi where you there?? NO you werent' and Obamacare is already in effect in IOWA so look it up before U open your mouth as for the fire look that up too.. Vacation Lodge Main Gate Kissimmee Florida JUne of last year.. He came to talk to all of us like he has for other ppl in a disaster situation.
Enjoy your Obamacare and don't give a thought to the innocent children killed by Obama's drone strikes. He certainly is not perfect.
I am so sick and tired of people saying that they can't get health care if they don't have insurance! This is just a load of CRAP! I work in a hospital who has already provided indigent care to the tune of 60 million dollars this year alone! I have taken care of the homeless! I have taken care of individuals for months on end who didn't have health insurance! In one instance, the uninsured individual was on my floor for over 3 months and his bill was well over a million dollars by the time he was discharged, and guess what — he didn't pay a single penny of that bill! Oh, and by the way, though minuscule parts of ObamaCare are in effect, the majority of the bill has not and will not be implemented until 2014. So, before you gloat and tell someone else to get the facts, maybe you should do the same!
Like totally! You, like, totally, like, hit the nail on the, like, top of it. Okay, it is, like, seriously and totally, like, crazy to really, like, think that this, like, attack was all on Obama. For reals. Like, people like us are, like, totally and seriously right. Nevermind, like, reality or something.
He didn't win a personality contest. He is President, Commander in Chief right?
Obama has been blaming Bush for everything so he doesn't have to take responsibility for his actions but it isn't okay for anyone to blame Obama? Sounds like you're the one who needs to grow up
I write e-mail to Obama almost weekly,,, I have talked with him live on line on my PC,,, I really don't think this is true,,, someone just feels angry that Romney lost,,,,,
bullshit
HA Lies, absolute bull. Because Obama has nothing better to do than Skype average Joes like you or me. XD
I don't think anyone here is a fan of Romney……..
What the hell rock have you been under? He has a drone hit list that he takes great pleasure, as told by WH insider, in revising said list at least once a week! It's one of the very few things he is allowed to decide all by himself! He is pure evil and likewise those that voted for him are the same!!
are you serious? are you daft? Obama used drones during js four year term, so you really cant believe he wouldn't do it again? And you think he gives a shit about what you have to say? How do you even know its Obama on the other side?
Yeaaah, niggas need to quit hating. Just like Lil Jon said, "quit hating muthafcka quit hatin" lol
Stick Lil Jon up your ass!!
You are an idiot and obviously a liar, and if you aren't you ought to share a cell with him for treason!!!
Yeah, all two of his canned, mass answers on the Reddit Q&A. But of course, a centrist president could NEVER play with drones….
Most of us hate Bitch Romney just as much as Barack Obomber, so grow up and grow a pair. Stop being a liberal sissy who blames everything on partisan politics as an excuse to avoid cognitive dissonance, you coward.
Says the doomsday prepper, paranoid mouse. Just live your life, quit trying to project your own personal problems onto others. You'll be much happier and the people around you won't have to listen to your ill-informed doctrine
We're the ONLY ONES with drones, you moron! If I could, I'd march over there & slap you silly. WAKE UP!!! OBAMA IS A LIAR!!
Your first instinct is to respond with violence. That says a lot of about you, you know.
you don't talk to obama via pc are you serious? big phoney just like your president
Yeah dude I talk to Obama all the time on my Iphone he's in my top 5's. We talk late hours into the night
loser
sounds legit. rofl
idiot
Of course it would be his fault just like it was not him involved in the downing of BinLaden….
idiot ofc the president "OBAMA" has somting 2 do whit it " LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Hey moron, Bin Laden died years ago, nobody killed him, he had liver trouble and was in the hospital during 9/11. Get educated, god, so many uniformed sheeple these days. Yeah, in this world of "everyone has a HD video camera on their iPhone and there was NO footage, NO pictures of a dead Bin Laden???? Wake the fuck up people, Bin Laden was NOT killed by a SEAL strike force orchestrated by the "Big O".
I was gonna tease you for your absurd comments, but you seem like an unstable individual. You ever take any meds? Maybe you should go see a doctor bro. Just sayin.
You’re f-cking idiotic. The president is the EXECUTIVE. He authorizes that sh-t. He was in charge before the election, meaning all actions were his to authorize before being elected for a second term. He is now in his second term, and this has happened. Military operations are authorized, or fucking duh, EXECUTED by the EXECUTIVE BRANCH aka government you F-CKING IDIOT.
I'm sure he also caused the middle east to be so unstable too. The rat bastard. Did he cause the 911 attacks? or the bp oil spill? probably. You guys need to quit being so close minded, so you can adopt whatever idiotic conspiracy theory anyone comes up with and posts on the internet as fact. Hahaha. I'm all for deductive reasoning, but quit being so paranoid. It makes me ill to see that this dementia is so widespread….find a doctor.
My question is if it WASN'T Obama and the US had nothing to do with it, why would a spokesperson not want to comment and say hey we didn't do this. The silence is suspicious if you ask me.
IDIOT!
name calling is so helpful! We need to all follow you!!!
Who is confirming that anyone has been asked about it? Maybe there was no comment becasue noone REALLY asked for one!
hell, the US blows up so many different places one can almost say it's the US at any one point in time and hit with 99% accuracy.
;)
and to think that it was romney who was going to gte us into all kinds of wars!
It isn't about hate for Obama. It is appauling what is becomming of our country, and how 60 million people decided for the 311 million voters who would get the job…(193 million did not vote!) If the election had been a vote for Jesus, I am positive it would have been that He was defeated.
are you seriously comparing romney to jesus wth is wrong with you?
Well, unfortunately, Jesus is dead, and not everyone in this country even believes the guy existed, so that's a moot point. Also, everyone 18 and older has the right to vote, they just have to go out and do it. The fact that so many people didn't is their own fault – they let everyone else vote for them, so they can't complain if they didn't.
IDIOT
Roflololol, are you serious? Refusing to vote for someone to speak for you is not the same as refusing to speak. If you voted, you are responsible for the outcome no matter what because you consented to the system, thus, YOU cannot complain.
193 million did not vote for the lesser of two evils. 193 million are not responsible for evil, hell yeah! Good for them.
And to the OP, a vote for Jesus only works in your Church. Which is fine. In your Church. I mean, there's that little Separation of Church and State thing, you know? Beside, if Jesus loves everyone, then he loves Obama. Since your God is all powerful, all knowing, omni-everything, then he put Obama in charge and you should be happy with that and ready and willing to obey. We should be thanking God for blessing us with another 4 years of rule under Obama's iron fist! That's how it works, right?
God had nothing to do with who won the election. We were put on earth and given free will. You can choose yourself between good and evil. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to know the difference. I still think most of us have a moral conscience. Therefore God did not choose Obama nor would He. Does God love Obama. Yes, as he loves all people whether you are a politician, a criminal, gay whatever. To clarify what he did say to us is "To love the sinner, but hate the sin".
The difference is the people who get handouts have their churches vote for them and the people who pay for those hand outs are disgusted with the system. This is the first phase of our disgust. It only gets worse from here. Next those disgusted will realize inaction is not sufficient and then those with their hand out will feel the pain. Here is a nice analogy I like to share in case you havent heard it:
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this…
The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing
The fifth would pay $1
The sixth would pay $3
The seventh would pay $7
The eighth would pay $12
The ninth would pay $18
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59
So, that’s what they decided to do.
The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball.
“Since you are all such good customers,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20." Drinks for the ten men would now cost just $80.
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share?
The bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.
And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% saving).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% saving).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% saving).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% saving).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% saving).
Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.
“I only got a dollar out of the $20 saving,” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,”but he got $10!”
“Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a dollar too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!”
“That’s true!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10 back, when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!”
“Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison, “we didn’t get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!”
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!
And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
very good analagy…..long, but the end result was important….
As a middle income earner I pay over 33% of my gross earnings to the government and at the end of the year we also pay into our health care plan, a percentage which is also based on gross earnings and dependents. Employers pay into the health care on a monthly basis and individually we purchase group insurance to pay for some (not all) medical and dental. How are Americans taxed as individuals?
Your numbers are off. Not all of the 311 million people in the country are of voting age.
You do realize that not every American can vote, right? Most people in prison and minors cannot vote so your 193 million is slightly inaccurate.
The electoral college would never have voted for Jesus no matter what the popular vote was. This is because Jesus was the world's first real socialist.
Cathy Dee a lot of votes in ohio and florida and other states werent even counted ….So lets pray that people is made to county the votes and them count .,
statistically the bigger the voter pool becomes the less and less % of votes republicans gain. so yes if EVERYONE had voted, obama still probably would have won. good job guy!
Maybe 193 million others should have voted. If only 60 million showed, then I guess it was up to them!!! Out of the two, 60 million had to decide their lesser of two evils!! Either way, it was a lose, lose situation!!!!!
lets hope so,we arent all Christians
I agree with you Cathy, it is appauling that a mere 10% came out to vote for probably the most important vote in the history of the US. Im sure it was all the minority groups that made it out. A mere 20% of your population.
And to Brandi…..for those who dont believe Jesus ever existed tell the to do the current research on the Shroud of Turin. Research as in NOT by reading blogs. Why would there be more books written about Jesus Christ than any other man in history if he did not exist.
it's called 'pathological'…once you've picked a 'conclusion' and put so much time and effort into it year after year…(some having it beat into them)…when you find out that you're wrong, you keep on the same path…and write book after book after book about what it is that you are trying to convince yourself of…you know, like when someone uses the words 'people on the internet agree with me' and you ask who, and they link you to their own blog?
There was no way of
being certain if the strike
was indeed American, or
for that matter if it was a
drone strike at all,
although it had all the
markings of one
There was no way of
being certain if the strike
was indeed American, or
for that matter if it was a
drone strike at all,
although it had all the
markings of one….. yea sooo OK I call B’s. really people publish something you can provide hard proof stomp making up your conspiracies…
EVEN IF, the president had NOT been reelected yesterday, he STILL is the president until January 20, 2013 in ANY case. So if he had to send a drone into Yemen to hit some terrorists, that is still his job and no one else can do it. I do NOT agree on the use of drones – but they do save American lives. I think it is an international legal issue, and someone or some country needs to file an action with the UN or somewhere to stop this barbarism.
the barbarism can be attributed to many governments, including our own at times. and drones kill innocent people, as well.
There's no one innocent over there. Are you kidding me. They live to see us brought down and killed.
Ah yes, monkey see monkey believe. As if you've been to that side of the world and you know everyone there. The reason why so many countries hate the US is because of what is going on right now. Doesn't matter if Romney had gotten the seat, eventually he would have bombed some place as well. US stops meddling in other's business, stops forcing their ideas upon others, bombing civilians and making an excuse that there was a terrorist hiding among the group of 20..then maybe the hate will start to go away.
+1.
Have you ever been. Out of your state, county or even town Duane? You my friend are the reason this kind of shit happens and that these policies and politicians get to be where they are today. Better to stick to your Monday night football. Instead of perpetuating this kind kind of right wing Christian bullshit dumb ass
Stop watching TV, Duane, and start thinking clearly.
For instance: I am racist and I really despise any clergy and any fanaticism, including the islamic one. But this doesn't mean that I have to wish their death, or have to claim that they are all guilty and all want to kill you from US or us from EU. I keep my distances, and as long as they don't bother me, I don't bother them. And I have never had any problem.
Could it be that it's YOUR kind of thinking that generates so much hatred vs the USA?
I find it funny that so many people who have taken the time to complain about this incident are the same ones flying flags and giving Bush praise for basically doing the same thing.
Mind you I don't agree with either incident. But the fact that I note the pendulum swinging isn't lost on me either.
Most people who are upset about this dont support either major party candidate or elected official.
Did you even bother to realize you are on an anti-war site? These are not people who liked Bush, McCain, or Romney. They are anti -war, and unlike the liberal left, they are principled in their anti-war stance. They were anti-war when Bush was in office, they were anti-war when Obama was in office, and they would have been anti-war whether last night's outcome was Obama or Romney.
It's the so-called anti-war left that's inconsistent. As long as a democrat is the one sending the drones, starting and prolonging wars, and killing thousands and thousands of innocent men, women, and children, they're fine with it. Apparently war and mass murder are only wrong when they're executed under the orders of a Republican.
I don't like war, and wish it would not happen, Americans are arrogant and our military is quick to the punch with fighting, yet assisting countries in need also. What are some solutions anti war advocates have come up with and I would support and try to help?
Anti-war advocates have worked very hard to come up with a simple and feasible proposal:
Step 1: Do not bomb other countries.
Bush didn't use drones, moron.
Nope instead he sent in the naval air force to bomb the shit out of two countries for reasons the government still haven't disclosed but people know about.
"But the fact that (few) note the pendulum swinging isn't lost on me either." – ??
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The drone strikes are indefensible. They outwardly appear to 'save American lives' however, there are numerous reports, that have been printed in the NYTimes and LA Times among other places, that have shown that they are merely engendering enmity in the middle east. So the lives we save now may end up costing us thousands more later the next time a suicide bomb goes off. The child whose father we are killing off today is tomorrow's suicide bomber is the gist of the studies done on the issue.
Just wait until video game addled children are controlling most of the US fighting force. It isn't more than 15 or 20 years away. Just wait until the US can wage war without any opposition at home. Barely any protests and no riots in the street. Just quiet, serene, comfortable contentment since none of "our boys" are in danger. Endless war will be the name of the future. But the press won't call it that. It'll be "policing" or some other such doublespeak. A true police state if ever you will see one.
If, if, if , if. If he wasn't a total asshole, you wouldn't be kissing and licking it so hard!!!
You are a moron. I hope you do not have children!!!!!
A drone killed an american not to long ago..think about that
Funny how there has to be a clarification of whether one of the murdered was an American or someone else in order to make people to stop and think.
And how exactly did our President save lives by bombing people in a different country …The US under our last 5 presidents has successfully taken away our civil rights…invaded numerous countries spent money bailing out a bunch of crooks lied etc… So many so blind to what is really going on …lol your getting a wake up call soon and your not going to like it when you finally see how enslaved you have become!
I am sure American children are not far off in this psychopaths plans. Impeach the SOB before it's too late.
It's already a year too late. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdulrahman_al-Aulaq…
kill yourself and get out of the gene pool, idiot!
You Obamabots are cute with your skepticism routine. It was a drone attack. On Tuesday. That murdered Arabs. That cookie jar has exactly one hand in it. Well, I suppose you voters deserve some credit for it too? Barry couldn't do it without you. Enjoy your phones.
Even IF he had gotten voted out of Office he would still call the shots till January and btw he may NOT be the best man for the job but being as how I am a female and very much like having rights id rather it be him in Office than Mitt although my 1st choice was Ron Paul and my 2nd was Gary but hey better to have my rights than not
Right, your vagina is more important than the mass murder of innocent men, women, and children. I mean, so long as all of the American vagina's are protected, who gives a shit about the Arab vaginas being obliterated, AMIRITE? Now that's compassion! Hope! Forward!
Pete U sir are an idiot.. U dont know shit about me.. Practically my entire family is military and alot of friends too so I know that when they do a job its cuz they have to and don't ALWAYS agree with it BUT I REFUSE TO GO BACK TO THE 1950's WHEN WOMEN WERE TREATED LIKE CRAP!
Enjoy your free birth control pills and walk-in Obama abortions and don't give a thought to the innocent children murdered by your leader.
Screw you asshole… I have 3 kids that if anyone would hurt them id be out for blood but I think its a womans decision if she feels to abort a child due to say rape ( I dont agree with it but it should be HER choice) and yes free birth control is nice it keeps population down although I don't need it as I made sure after my youngest I couldn't have anymore kids. The point is this and I haven't been ONLY one on here saying this… Know the facts before you accuse anyone, doesn't matter if its a politician or just ur average joe. A reporter NOT having all the facts when they report the 'news; does hurt the individual
What a bunch of crybabies. The neo cons got a woody every time Bush Jr. bombed the living piss out of a country, now they are crying like little girls. That's the price of national security, folks. Oh that's right, only when a White man is in the White house.
isn't that true it was all patriotic bullcrap and parties every time bush did it. losers. but uhm yeah we need to get out of this war bs
So what exactly are you saying? The neo-cons are partisan war-mongering idiots? Are you saying that everybody who objects to the American government murdering people with illegal military action are neo-cons because Obama is president? I don't get it, are you saying that you support drone strikes in countries that America hasn't even made a declaration of war against?
Are you saying that because Obama is president, it's ok and everybody who says it isn't is just against Obama? I can't dissect what you are saying in anyway that doesn't make you sound like just a bad of a partisan monkey as those neo-cons you are accusing us of being. Bush was a war criminal and so is Obama.
Actually what he is saying is that the same people who were all about Bush dropping bombs are the same ones raising hell now that Obama is doing the same. It totally reeks of hypocrisy among so many other things.
I agree Darya
In all honesty, I haven't seen conservatives anywhere suddenly turn into anti-war activists. Romney campaigned on increasing military spending and was against a concrete deadline for withdrawing troops in Afganistan.
Conservatives pundits will point out how silent liberals are about the war now that Obama's running it. But they don't say they're against it. They just use it call liberals hypocrites.
I'd also say the vast majority of vocal anti-war activists have remained consistent. They opposed the war under Bush. They oppose the war under Obama. This website is called antiwar.com. It's not a conservative blog. It's an antiwar blog. Accusing the people writing for it of being neocons who were okay with the war under Bush requires a wholesale dismissal of reality. Anybody who would try that argument here is guilty of the very partisanship they're accusing others of. Pure projection.
Nope, the antiwar voices for the most part, are now silent when it's Obama dropping the bombs. They are the hypocrites. There are some notable exceptions, such as Code Pink, whose Medea Benjamin recently wrote in to the Washington Post about the terrorizing effects of Obama's drone bombing. The majority of Obots are quick to call anyone who criticizes their cult leader a "Fox News viewer"— while they themselves mindless regurgitate crap like drone bombing is "smart" war that "saves lives." Yeah, sure, brain-trusts, and War is Peace, don'cha know?
Partisans that think Bush was great and Obama is terrible (fiscally and otherwise) are full of shit yes. And on the other side, partisans that protested Bush's war mongering, and applauded Obama's promises to (you name it he broke it) get out of Iraq immediately, close Guantanamo… and then have nothing to say about Obama's continuation and expansion of Bush's crimes; well sorry but they are full of shit too. The right has no monopoly on hypocrisy, and calling people who object to murder crybabies says more about the partisan hack who made the comment than the ones he criticizes.
I noticed that there's another Dave here talking about race, so I'm going to reply to my own comment and change my name from Dave to something else distinct.
Wow, your not a racist right??? Is the "race card" the best you got? You might want to try intelligent thought sometimes. Your marvelous mulatto is doing so well, as long as he has a teleprompter, and someone to tell him what to say, and someone to dress him etc….
Sorry Dave, the teleprompter bit was put to bed a long time ago. Right about the time he gave R-Money a well deserved spanking in the last two debates. And btw the way I'm white. So strike two. Care to try again?
yup, he's the ONLY president to ever use a teleprompter! thanks for clearing that up, idiot. next time you have a thought, do everyone a favor and blow it out of your @$$.
Do you realize you are on an anti-war site? I mean, seriously. Just because people are criticizing Obama's drone strikes doesn't mean they're republican. Perhaps you should be a bit more observant here, because these people have been anti-war regardless of what party has ever been in the White House, Congress, or Senate. This isn't the "anti-war" left who pretends to care when it's convenient here. These are real anti-war activists who care about the innocent lives of others at all times and put principles over parties.
Obama has bombed more countries in 4 years than Bush did in 8. They are both pro-war, but let's get serious here, Obama has already done more damage in that sense. How can you possibly excuse that if you are a principled human being who is anti-war? The left only pretends to be anti-war so that they can come off as though they "care," but they are just spineless swine when the violence is at the command of democrats.
Do you really think a website called antiwar.com is comprised of neocons?
No that is the price for slavery looks what's happened to America in the past few years NDAA that he signed read it we are all next.
There are not too many neo-cons around this site. The ones who do come here do it so they can disagree. Most people on this site were against Bush the Lesser's wars too.
stop the white man shit
It's WRONG no matter who is doing it, Black or White, RED or BLUE, killing innocent babies is WRONG. And yes, I have seen the videos of Drones shooting up their schools and their houses and they are not killing terrorists, they ARE the terrorists. It is not for the sake of peace, BRING OUR TROOPS HOME! THis S>H>Ts out of control. WAKE UP PEOPLE
"There was no way of being certain if the strike was indeed American, or for that matter if it was a drone strike at all, although it had all the markings of one."
Great reporting! Lets go ahead and blame him though.
Thats what I have trying to tell ppl… IF they arent sure then WHY blame him
The first paragraph of this article is very specific : " A U.S. drone strike targeted a group of al-Qaida militants on the outskirts of the Yemeni capital Sanaa on Wednesday night, killing at least three terrorists, government officials said." All drone strikes are approved by Obama. What's to debate? There is one question to be asked: who decided, from their chair in front of a screen in Arizona, that these were al-Qaida militants? As often as not, the 'militants' turn out to be civilians on the way home from work, or a party. That's where the tragedy is, in my opinion, and Obama is directly to blame for the use of drones.
This is why I can't support Republicans or Democrats. When a Republican is in office, the Dems call him a warmonger, when a Democrat is in office, Democrats ignore that he's doing the same exact thing that the Republican was doing. If they were actually against war they would be condemning Obama more than they condemned Bush. Obama's dropped more bombs than Bush, deployed more troops, and continued torture, but he can't do anything wrong.
so silly it is us, non democrats, and definitely NON Republican/NON Romney folks who would call out our president. I door knocked for him, because I didnt want ROMNEY to f-ck me, my familiy and my communities, then once I help get Obama in, I can complain about what he needs to be accountable to.
Maybe the Nobel Peace Prize Committee will nominate him again next year.
He will certainlty be nominated and be awarded another Nobel Prize for Peace.
Peace by Death Drone. I get it!
I wonder what things would be like if instead of an overall president, people could vote on a president of military, president of social issues, and president of economics, instead of political party package deals. I'd like to think things would be much better off, but considering the highest-rated third party was at 1% this year, I really have my doubts.
Putting 3 people in charge will get you nothing but arguments, how big depends on the people in charge. When 1 president and GOP can't come up with a compromise, what makes you think 3 people can come up with a compromise between themselves and GOP? Your theory is flawed. What we need, like many other people have stated, transparency in the government. Let the people know what is going on and why this is going on.
I'm not a freaking Republican. I hate them most of the time, in fact.
Is it okay if I just hate bombing people and taking human lives? Remember when the Democrats used to hate that, until it was their guy doing it?
#hypocrisy #murder
ditto
Well said!
So…if you're not a Republican, why do you have the elephant symbol as your avatar? Liar!
That isn't an elephant, it is Cthulhu. Why vote the lesser evil?
We are fighting a war on terror. We face people who want to destroy civilization as we know it. Thank goodness we have a President who puts the security of our nation first and foremost ahead of politics.
yet you criticize bush for doing the same.. hypocrisy anyone?
I don't.
Ohhhhhhh, okay, I get it, then. You're pro-war because bombing innocent brown people in a country millions of miles away is for the good of us here. If you assume the official story to be true, they STILL only attacked us ONCE. We react by perpetuating a 10+ year war not just on them, but anyone remotely associated with them.
We terrorized them LONG before 9.11 even happened. WE pushed them into striking the Towers. *We* are the terrorists, not them. An innocent American life is no more or less important than an innocent Arab life. We are killing them, we are killing our soldiers, and we are losing our freedoms for it. If you're okay with that, you deserve neither freedom, nor security.
But mad props for being honest and admitting that no matter who is bombing them, you just support bombing them/war/the President. Seriously, I am actually thoroughly impressed you aren't being hypocritical about it.
Guess what? I am Iranian. Nice job of trying to play the race-bait card.
'Innocent brown people’? That is very racist…people you call 'innocent and brown' are just as eclectic in their world views and highly critical of their own governments and systems. I do not condone drone strikes and there are many 'brownies' who do not either. However, has it occurred that there are probably many 'over there browns’ frustrated and angered at being seen as the world's victims and likened to those bellicose, misogynistic weirdy beardy religious extremists.
Did you seriously just try to justify 9/11? You must support Al Qaeda then, Whatever point you are trying to make doesn't mean jack now.
They weren't pushed into anything. It's called payment and good payment at that. How else was bin Laden going to afford the dialysis machine and kidney care that he got at the US bases?
well unless you happen to be in Benghazi
You probably have tread marks on your tongue from all that bootlicking, pilgrim. Hope you check under your bed for terrorists tonight. Well, other than the ones you vote for at least. Wouldn't them to destroy your "civilization" or "national security".
@sasss31: Drink more of the brainwashing Kool-aid!
you mean by killing innocent people?
you sir are an idiot. violating domestic and international law is a war crime and the ones flying the drones and their higher ups can get away with it because they were ordered to do so . obama just fucked up point blank
We? Who is 'we'? The US started it all, this so-called war on terror.
Open your eyes and see what is really going on they are all bought and payed for by the elite that really run this country If I'm not mistaken he promised everyone cars last election well I still have not received mine. The elites want to destroy this great country that we live in and Oboma is just a puppet following their orders.
Two oceans and a sane immigration policy would do more to protect America from foreign terrorists than every bomb dropped since 2001.
Fact of the matter is, the Taliban had nothing to do with 9/11! Afghanistan was invaded because at the time Taliban was in control of the country and the US believed they were harboring Osama in Afghanistan. While the country kept getting bombed and civilians murdered, Bin Laden was hiding safely in Pakistan. The reason told to the public was Bin Laden, when in reality they had bigger plans. There's no need for me to go into Iraq because that's been gone over several times. So this so called war on terror is bs. Open your eyes, "war on terror" has not done anything but cause terrorism and in turn create more "terrorists". Kill one civilian you will in turn create five so called terrorists. Combine that with civilian to combatant death ratio of 3:1 (which I believe to be a little low but who am I to argue) and well you get the point.
Afghanistan was invaded to secure their natural gas, ensure an oil pipeline, and make sure the poppy fields kept strong. Taliban began burning the US #1 source of heroine and was beginning to go against their resource plans. It had nothing to do with Bin Laden since he was likely being harbored somewhere by his buddies in the CIA.
First start cleaning up your own domestic mess,and stay home with your f*cking army, idiot !!!
sasssss31 BS
Educate yourself. The "War on Terror" is a farce. If we wanted to end terror we would stop PARTICIPATING in it. We are the biggest perpitrators of this in the world. War on terror? How do you go to war on a concept? Most Americans are OBLIVIOUS to the realities today. Go read / listen to Noam Chomsky he will enlighten your little sheep brains.
sadly, a president who draws up a weekly kill list and then murders people is the one destroying civilisation.
which bit did you think was civilisation in america??
Am more than a little uncomfortable with anyone who makes jokes about using drones…….especially if he is the president of the USA…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqqz_KLU4Ys
Those who want to destroy our way of life are elected officials of our country.
sasss31,
We are fighting of war OF terror, made in the USA.
We face people who want to destroy civilization as we know it.
Our President IS one of those people.
Bombing everyone else doesn't make us more secure @ all.
It makes them want to show up here & give us a taste of our own medicine.
Violence only brings more violence, never peace.
how can u say that when he wants to cut at least 25% of all military. Thats just askin for trouble so what he needs to do is get his head out of his butt and realize all he** will break lose if he does
He isn't the first one! He is just the next one. War on Terror is questionable. We have become involved in a wide spread religous civil war is probably the most important quaestion. Call your senators and represenitives and ask them and ask them to give you a "Honest" answer. Supporting a majority against a minority under the guise of "Democracy" is kind of hard to take.
You are suck an ass wipe! If a foreign power sent drones into the USA and bombed homes, schools, weddings, etc would we not label that as acts of terrorism? Would we not want to retaliate and go after the evil-doers… So if there is a war of terror it would seem that the USA is the biggest offender, but don't get your panties bunch up. The American people could not see a war criminal unless it is hooded and shackled like some poor African being transported in the middle passage to that G-d Bless America!
You were supposed to stop reading at this point (assuming that a) some of you can actually read and b) you read that far into this waste of time blog post): "There was no way of being certain if the strike was indeed American, or for that matter if it was a drone strike at all, although it had all the markings of one."
Exactly! Just think of all of the other countries and governments known for drone striking the shit out of the Middle East! I mean seriously, there's like what… about 50 different governments it could be! AMIRITE? Seems legit.
Note: the leader of Yemen has praised our cooperation and the use of drones inside of Yemen against the terrorists.
So the guy who is leading a country that will be wiped off the map if he doesn't 'play ball' with the US saying he is 'OK' with the US drone striking weddings and killing HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of CHILDREN should be taken at his word?
Hold a gun up to my head and cock the hammer and I'll tell you you're the best guy on earth too if that's what it'll take to get you to not blow my head off. As a matter of law, comments made under duress are not considered valid and I'd say his would qualify.
He doesn't just approve, he LOVES drones..: http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/09/28/ye… http://news.yahoo.com/yemens-president-thinks-dro…
That's some epic warmonger-er pwnage. Well said, good sir.
Of course he does. Now he gets his political opposition killed and he gets to tell his people it was the evil Americans who did it. Win/Win from his point of view.
The US should not be bombing people just because those people's government approves of it.
Note: the more video game zombified children operating drones, the more widespread robotic war and free range murder will become. When you can kill from your living room with no danger, why stop until the whole world obeys your command? Drones are the most dangerous thing to happen to the human race since the atom bomb. Possibly worse because everyone is behind this shit.
The ‘leader’ of Yemen is a f-cking dictator who’s been repressing the uprising there, after his predecessor got set on fire for repressing the uprising last year. I know, big surprise, there, homeslice.
Very good read: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/29/world/middleeas…
open you eyes dude you government are murdering scum bags that should face war crime charges
the nytimes is nothing but mainstream propaganda to brainwash fools like yourself
Even bertter read: Al Majala Attack http://www.youtube.com
It seems that this has been going on a lot longer than just "hours after the re-election"… Al-Queda has been waging a retaliation campaign against the tribal areas of southern Yemen and the U.S. has been assisting fighting off this infiltration as well as killing Al-Queda leadership on the ground. I SEVERELY doubt the U.S. is just playing a video game and dropping bombs on women, children and cities just so Obama can kick back and laugh about it on Conan O'Brien or whatever shot this propaganda article decided to use for it's very speculative report. Just sayin'.
there are MANY studies and reports that show a giant death toll of INNOCENT civilians. Also, he is working off of a 'kill list' that has AMERICAN names on it. That is absolutely against the law.
If you and 4 friends were sitting at a bar and 1 of your friends called Obama a jag off once and said 'man I'd like to slap that bitch around a bit' and Obama heard about it and put him on the kill list as a suspected terrorist, do you think it would be OK for the cops to burst and and just gun you and your friend down? No arrest. No trial. I think not. There would be riots in the streets.
If Yemen really was playing ball they'd arrest and extradite. The leader of Yemen says just enough to stop Obama from bombing the whole place.
Finally, yes, this did happen more than just after the election. Bush started this bullshit in 2004 and Obama merely accelerated the process and came up with the 'kill list' idea. Absurd.
Yes many studies and reports, across many situations and many different areas. Love the staying-on-point debate strategy. We aren't talking about "guys at a bar" "talking sh*t"… we're talking a terrorist anti-American group that if YOU were sitting across a field, let alone in a bar with one of them… they would gladly tie you up and torture you and cut your head off with a butter knife in front of a camera and feel like a hero for doing it. What the hell don't you people understand? Yemen military offensives have zero resource to deal with this and more-over this is about the U.S. applying the only justice it can to the leaders of Al-Queda who have killed many more innocent civilians and would kill many more if we didn't stop them. Casualties of war are just that and it's a horrible thing, but it's a reality of the world and those are exactly what the president means when he says "Tough Decisions". If the world were run by half these blogging morons, we'd be in DEEP, monumental SH*T!
lolol have you not been paying attention for the past 10 years? Our government HAS been bombing the middle east as if they were playing a really shitty round of Call of Duty.
Al-Queda in Yemen is in Yemen and not the responsibility of the United States government. When they are on American soil or on boats headed here, then the US should do something about them. But if we didn't invite them over here they could not get on our soil.
So basically, you are saying you would rather fight them on OUR ground? Also, your plan of getting them when they are on the way over here, would mean we always know where they are. That's not how it works. It takes a ton of effort to find these guys and when we do, we drop an arsenal on them to ensure things don't get to that point.
I mean it's not like someone is just playing Call of Duty in Yemen…
http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/category/pro…
Thank You!
Excellent complementation to my "drone" search in the news archive of : http://www.net-news-global.net/suche.php?suchstri…
US Covert Action in Yemen 2002–2012
Total confirmed US operations (all): 53-63
Total confirmed US drone strikes: 42-52
Possible extra US operations: 122-142
Possible extra US drone strikes: 66-80
Total reported killed (all): 362-1,055
Total civilians killed (all): 60-163
Children killed (all): 24-34
CIA Drone Strikes in Pakistan 2004–2012
Total US strikes: 350
Obama strikes: 298
Total reported killed: 2,593-3,378
Civilians reported killed: 475-885
Children reported killed: 176
Total reported injured: 1,252-1,401
US Covert Action in Somalia 2007–2012
Total US strikes: 10-23
Total US drone strikes: 3-9
Total reported killed: 58-170
Civilians reported killed: 11-57
Children reported killed: 1-3
I love how this article is attracting government apologists who basically say variations of how this story is bullshit because it doesn't have 100 percent certainty that the attack was a drone strike, nor is it sure that it was a U.S.-ordered strike.
Don't you just love this authoritarian mindset?
It's been thoroughly documented that the U.S. government constantly lies and contradicts itself when it talks about its about drone strikes. Award-winning watchdog group ProPublica has laid out all the evidence you need to show that the government does this. (Glenn Greenwald reports on the U.S. government's drone-related lies on a nearly-daily basis.)
See: http://www.propublica.org/article/obama-drone-dea… http://www.propublica.org/special/how-obama-drone…
So why should the burden of proof on this story be on the people who report this story? Knowing that the government has been outed as a chronic liar, shouldn't the burden of proof be on the U.S. government?
If I accuse someone who is a very well-known liar of being a liar, why should the burden of proof of proving whether or not my claims are right be on me? Shouldn't it be the very well-known liar's responsibility to disprove my claims?
Besides, how the hell is anyone supposed to be certain on anything the U.S. does in terms of foreign policy when it constantly invokes nearly every action as a national security matter and therefore not for public scrutiny?
Omg people, September 11 everyone was crying for the he'd of the terrorist, recently saying the government had no balls for not retaliating against the killing of some Americans, now the same people condemning the same responses they were urging for. Just got a job, grow up and focus on ur own shit and try to like the first time in you all pathetic existence of being true citizens of the world..
"Earlier today an apparent US drone strike targeted and killed 'Adnan al-Qadhi in the area of Sanhan, just south of Sanaa.
"I say apparent drone strike, because while there is no confirmation from the US – as is usual in events like this – the attack took place at night and Yemen has often said that its decrepit air force can't carry out strikes at night, which leaves, by default: the US.
"And indeed that is what most local reports in the Yemeni media are reporting[.]"
http://bigthink.com/waq-al-waq/adnan-al-qadhi-and…
Murderous terrorists, who cares, murder them all
Who is in whose country killing whom? Are there any Yemenis in the U.S. killing Americans?
Lol at all the Obama apologists on here defending that war criminal. EVERY president since FDR has either waged war and helped overthrow a government. They were democrats and republicans! You people kill me with your excuses for President Obama. Oh and before somebody throws the race card, I’m a black, army veteran, moderate democrat who voted for Obama in 2008(big mistake!) I proudly voted for Gary Johnson!
Read past the headline people! There was no way of being certain if the strike was indeed American, or for that matter if it was a drone strike at all, although it had all the markings of one.
Nov. 6, 2012 – The Day America Died
The people have spoken.
They desired more of the same from their king of an unknown land.
They will get what they wanted but not what they expected!
A king with a mandate. Four more years to finish the task.
Moving "forward" to completion.
He will loot their wallets, raze their cities, and hobble their freedoms.
A destroying wind who takes many prisoners.
Before him, a breath that poisons with lies.
Behind him a wake of destruction and desolation.
His words are the sting of an adder. His smile the leer of a jackal.
The pompous one armed with the keys to the city.
Keys that were forged in the smelter of hell.
The first four years began the siege.
The next four will bring the destruction.
A new army of dark occupation has walked through the city gates.
It was welcomed with applause.
The clapping of the blind ones.
Their coming wounds welcomed with loud cheers.
So through the gates he arrived.
He will loot their riches and strip their wells dry.
He will torment them with a sneer and peel their land with a nod.
America had her turn.
She did not turn.
Now their King from the Land of Ra will have his turn.
Nathan Leal
November 6, 2012
Aside from Obama supporters' brutal, endless 'War on Cogency and Language', the scariest thing about these comments — as far as they're comprehensible, is the de facto assumption that we must be bitter Romney supporters for daring to criticize Obama's latest "bug splat". Can these geniuses (it helps to picture them as being cross-eyed) really be too busy to look at the top header of this website?
Yes, antiwar.com. The last bastion of the Romney resistance.
The latest post mentioned drones and unconstitutional wars in the context of libertarian opposition moving forward after the election http://legatuslibertatis.wordpress.com/
But Obama said in a speech before election that Al-Queda was decimated if they are why are they bombing Yemen?
Haters hatin… Obama is a more efficient killer than Bush
Obama didn't start the wars but has an obligation to finish them. Republican efforts escalated the wars and did not plan exit strategy.
Drone strikes are better than invading a nation to take out a few individuals, but can't be excepted as they violate so many rights of nations, people and recklessly kill women and children and innocent people and infrastructure.
The motives that are behind the wars and drone killings need to be exposed if we really live in a democracy.
https://vimeo.com/51722464
his strikes are based on intel given to him. not like he knows al queda like bush does. anyways, we are at war with al queda, and the strike did kill three of them. the blog does not even reference a source or even conclude that the us was involved. sloppy and irresponsible work if you ask me.
The strike killed three terrorists. You'd prefer that they were alive?
How do you know they were terrorists? The government told you so?
Any male of age 18 or older. That is the requirement for the press and government to call them 'militants'. Go check it out. Even when they openly admit to using drones to kill 'militants', they are basically admitting that they have no idea if it was actually a terrorist or militant. I guess they'll wait for the autopsy (right…).
"Terrorists"? I thought they were armed militants…