Reports by both Poland and the US indicate the missile strike that killed 2 in Poland was likely an errant Ukraine missile fired to intercept a Russian missile over Ukraine.
Both US President Biden and Polish President Andrzej Duda spoke cautiously regarding a potential tripwire setting off possible all out war between NATO and Russia. Biden said “There is preliminary information that contests Russia fired the missile. I don’t want to say until we completely investigate but it’s unlikely in the minds of the trajectory that it was fired from Russia.” Duda told reporters that “There’s no clear evidence of who fired the missile. An investigation is ongoing.”
But firebrand Ukraine President Zelensky, who tirelessly promotes direct NATO intervention, including strikes on Russia and an No-Fly Zone over Ukraine, likely triggering WWIII, remains undaunted. He took to Twitter on his talk with Polish President Duda, expressing “condolences over the death of Polish citizens from Russian missile terror.”
I’ve said before that President Zelensky is trying to get us all killed. Unless the US and NATO escorts him to the negotiating table to end a war he cannot win, he may succeed.
Walt Zlotow became involved in antiwar activities upon entering University of Chicago in 1963. He is current president of the West Suburban Peace Coalition based in the Chicago western suburbs. He blogs daily on antiwar and other issues at www.heartlandprogressive.blogspot.com.
I saw a satellite picture of the remaining parts of the missile yesterday, and those parts identified the missile as coming from Ukraine. Zelensky is a liar, pure & simple. All sides lie in wars, but the U.S., Ukraine, and the west have been the biggest liars in this war.
Reminds me of Trump, spouting off about something no one else believes is true.
“But firebrand Ukraine President Zelensky, who tirelessly promotes_______”
FIFY.
Zelensky is trying to get the invading Russians to leave his country. Many of his people support him in this effort. The NATO countries are helping a little as well. This bloodshed is terrible the waste of human live and economic potential is tragic. I wish the Russians would leave so this will stop.
If you are in the U.S. or western Europe, you need to look in the mirror. Russia’s invasion was provoked by the U.S., including but not limited to NATO expansion that now has missiles near the Russian border. Russia is not the cause of this, even though it was wrong to invade.
The wife beater defense, look at what you made me do.
And yours is the Ugly American comment. If you don’t recognize the fact that the U.S. has been provoking Russia for decades, there’s no point in having a conversation. Just continue chanting USA, USA, that’s about all you can handle.
John is clueless about the complexity of Russia-Ukraine relations. He needs to go to school to learn a few basic facts. It is a total waste of time arguing with him here.
Again, the wife was cheating. She got in bed with the US. Not that she deserves a beating, but we can’t control what an irate husband might do so we shouldn’t have provoked him.
While it’s true that NATO expansion caused Russia’s invasion you can’t claim “russia is not the cause”. It takes two to tango. NATO could stop this bloodshed at any moment, but Russia could too. Both parties are direct authors of this conflict.
I’m no supporter of Russia or any other large country, and I oppose Russia’s invasion. But aside from that, the U.S. is the cause of this problem. It’s not just NATO expansion, there’s a long list of U.S. provocations here, starting with the continued existence of NATO after the disbanding of the Soviet Union. Russia wasn’t willing to stand by and let ethnic Russians be attacked and killed in eastern Ukraine. Etc.
Moreover, people have argued that Russia had to invade (what else was Russia to do?). I don’t agree with that, because I’m anti-war with no exceptions, but Russia was in a tight spot here. It felt threatened and reacted to massive U.S. provocation, which is what anyone with any sense expected at some point. In fact, there are documents starting to come out showing that the U.S. has planned this kind of thing for years if not decades.
The issue here is when it’s legitimate to invoke self-defense, which the U.S. constantly abuses. When there are NATO missiles so close to Russia that they can hit Moscow within minutes after being launched? When ethnic Russians are being killed on Russia’s border by Ukrainian Nazis? Personally, I don’t think that this situation got to the point where Russia could legitimately claim self-defense, but it was very close and there are legitimate arguments on both sides.
I just think we are getting so dumbed down anything can be sold. Clown like Zelenski knows this.
For starters, there were no missiles fired from Russian positiins into the area defended by that specific S-300. Defense ststems are limited in range and just because Russia targetted a part of Ukraine that day — it is IRRELEVANT as to why this particular S-300 fired. So, why was it fired? Who knows. A misfire? And why fired in the opposite direction from any possible inckmming misssile? There are all sorts of silly explanations,
One does not need a satelite image. A farmer took picture of fragments with markings — and posted images, Simple.
So, why fire the missile? No Russian ones to chase, so it could have been a trsining mishap, , a maintenance mishap. Or a deliberate act. Now they will “investigate”!
The inconvenient tech savvy farmer.
They are talking of intriducing law in Poland forbidding picture taking and posting of any war related materials
I may have misremembered, maybe what I saw was the farmer’s picture. That’s a minor detail that doesn’t change anything I said.
Point was minor/major. Once you have a close up shot of markings on the fragments, no amoun of finesse can make it “inconclusive”.
Which makes me wonder about the whole affair. What if there is no such evidence?
Is Zelenski really that silly, or Polish government was actually prepared to support him? We will never know.
I don’t think that the Polish government ever said that the missile came from Russia. And considering how much Poland hates Russia, that tells you all you need to know about this.