A nurse was fired earlier this month from a New York City hospital for a speech lamenting the anguish felt by Palestinian mothers whose children were killed during the Gaza genocide – remarks that came as she was being honored for providing extraordinary care to mothers who’ve lost babies.
NYU Langone Health labor and delivery nurse Hesen Jabr, who is Palestinian American, was terminated over her May 7 speech accepting the award, in which she said that “it pains me to see the women from my country going through unimaginable losses themselves during the current genocide in Gaza.”
“Even though I can’t hold their hands and comfort them as they grieve their unborn children and the children they have lost during this genocide, I hope to keep making them proud as I represent them here at NYU,” she added.
this is the acceptance speech that got a Palestinian Nurse, Hesen Jabr, fired from NYU Langone. she was fired for honoring her own Palestinian heritage & extending her heart towards the mothers who are suffering in Gaza. pic.twitter.com/aGL5rsXPKU
— Sarah Warren (@shesinscrubs) May 28, 2024
In a May 27 Instagram post, Jabr recounted what she says happened to her when she went back to work for the first time after her speech:
As soon as I walked onto the unit, I was dragged into an impromptu meeting with the president and vice president of nursing at NYU Langone to discuss how I “put others at risk” and “ruined the ceremony” and “offended people” because a small part of my speech was a tribute towards the grieving mothers in my country. I was sent back to work my shift while the hospital spent the day “figuring out” what to do with me. After working almost the entire shift, I was dragged once again to an office where I was read my termination letter by the director of human resources, Austin Bender, and escorted off the premises by a plain clothes police officer.
NYU Langone spokesperson Steve Ritea told The New York Times that Jabr was terminated over the speech and “a previous incident” related to Gaza, over which she was warned “not to bring her views on this divisive and charged issue into the workplace.”
“She instead chose not to heed that at a recent employee recognition event that was widely attended by her colleagues, some of whom were upset after her comments,” Ritea added. “As a result, Jabr is no longer an NYU Langone employee.”
The New McCarthyism:
They’re not just going after Asian American doctors who speak up for Palestinians. Hesen Jabr is a Palestinian American nurse who just got fired for the most mild comments about the suffering of Palestinians.
The USA is in one of its epic madnessses again. https://t.co/DMECLgFpak
— marincountyconfidential (@marindatanow) May 29, 2024
Jabr – who has a history of activism going back to her childhood, when in 2001 the ACLU filed a lawsuit on her behalf after she, as an 11-year-old Muslim girl, was forced to accept a Bible from the principal of her public elementary school in rural Louisiana – said in a Facebook post that “the pure psychological warfare NYU has waged on me as a nurse, Muslim, Palestinian, and woman, has only left me resolute.”
As the Times noted, this isn’t the first time NYU Langone employees have been terminated for expressing opinions about the war:
One doctor, a prominent cancer researcher in his 60s, was outspoken in defense of Israel and had posted a variety of anti-Hamas political cartoons, including some with offensive caricatures of Arab people. The other, a young doctor-trainee at the start of his career, was accused of posting a message on Instagram that defended the October 7 Hamas attack on Israel.
The cancer doctor subsequently sued NYU Langone. The doctor-trainee was reinstated.
The nursing community has been overwhelmingly supportive of Jabr, with one nurse writing on Instagram that NYU Langone “can’t keep nurses but [are] firing them for free speech.”
“Shame on you for firing someone simply for sharing their grief, pain, and lived experience,” wrote another Instagram commenter. “If her pain makes you so uncomfortable then maybe you should ask why you would rather she suffer in silence. This is now part of written history. This is now part of your legacy. We will never forget.”
The group NYU Faculty and Staff for Justice in Palestine – which is vowing a service strike in the fall semester if New York University does not stop repressing pro-Palestine campus demonstrations – said on social media that it is “appalled” by Jabr’s firing, which it called “a blatant attack on free speech and an appalling injustice.”
“Firing a dedicated healthcare worker after 10 years for her views is censorship and cowardly,” the group added.
Dr. Andrew Goldstein, an assistant professor at NYU Grossman School of Medicine, called Jabr’s firing “part of a pattern of anti-woke retaliation by NYU Langone.”
“I think we should vote no confidence in [NYU Grossman School of Medicine Dean Robert] Grossman and remove far-right Ken Langone’s name from our medical center,” he added, referring to the billionaire businessman who, in addition to his philanthropic largesse is known for bankrolling Republican candidates and causes.
One of Jabr’s former patients called the nurse’s termination “personal for me.”
“The maternity nurses at NYU Langone, including Hesen Jabr, went above and beyond to care for our family, including me the father in shock after an emergency C-section,” he wrote on social media. “Watching NYU Langone fire one of them for their compassion is beyond disgusting.”
More than 15,000 children have been killed by Israeli forces during the assault on Gaza, according to Palestinian and international officials and agencies. Overall, Israel’s 238-day onslaught – which is the subject of an International Court of Justice genocide case brought by South Africa and supported by more than 30 countries and regional blocs – has left at least 129,000 Palestinians dead, maimed, or missing. International Criminal Court Prosecutor Karim Khan is seeking arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, as well as three leaders of the Palestinian resistance group Hamas, which rules the Gaza Strip.
Israeli forces have also obliterated Gaza’s healthcare infrastructure, with hospitals bombed and besieged and medical workers intentionally killed. The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs says two dozen Gaza hospitals are out of service, while according to the international medical charity Doctors Without Borders, nearly 500 healthcare workers have been killed by Israeli bombs and bullets.
Brett Wilkins is is staff writer for Common Dreams. Based in San Francisco, his work covers issues of social justice, human rights and war and peace. This originally appeared at CommonDreams and is reprinted with the author’s permission.
Check out this list and you'll understand the phone calls behind this act of political repression.
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Let's call your comment what is it – open anti-Semitism.
"Look – Jews!"
Disgusting.
Let's call your comment what it is: state genocidal propaganda.
Nonsense. Two different issues.
You are highlighting the fact that many leaders at NYU are Jews; this is a despicable act of labeling people based on their ethnicity.
My comment is merely pointing our your behavior and does not address the war in Gaza; it is simply a fact, so not "propaganda".
However, calling the war in Gaza "genocide" is false, as we don't even know how many people have died in this war. For one thing, the figures are from Hamas, which is not a real government, but a violent group that illegally occupies Gaza. Hamas has no legal basis for controlling Gaza, as the legal government there is the Palestinian Authority, and Gaza only won local elections before a violent confrontation with the PA resulted in their murdering PA officials and occupying Gaza illegally.
Second, Hamas is well known for lying and spreading actual propaganda to maintain its illegal control of Gaza and the people it controls via guns (no elections).
So, any figure they provide presumably includes Hamas militants, who are legitimate targets in a war they triggered. (I shouldn't have to say it, but if you murder 1,000 civilians, the country you attack is going to try to kill the people who murdered 1,000 of your civilians).
Finally, "genocide" refers to the extermination of a people. In the Rwandan Civil War, 600,000 Tutsi were murdered. In the Armenia Genocide, 1 million Armenians died. In the Nanking Massacre, 150,000 Chinese died. The Khmer Rouge killed 2 million Cambodians. The Bangladesh Genocide killed 3 million. The Germans systematically exterminated 6 million of Jews, plus 2.5 million Russian POWs and 1.5 million Romani. The Darfur Genocide killed 500,000 people. You can also consider the 10,000,000 people in the Congo killed by King Leopold as genocidal. To the north of Israel, Assad killed more than 300,000 people in Syria.
So, the deaths of civilians during a war – however unfortunate – is a predictable consequence of attacking a powerful neighbor, especially in a war zone like the Middle East.
Further – what would be the appropriate response to the slaughter of your people? What do you suggest that the Israelis do? Pack up and leave? Or, maybe write a letter to protest? Or sue them in the ICC, demanding that they apologize for murdering 1,000 men, women, children, and babies? Or should Israelis move to NYC, where Jews are not targeted and called out, based simply on their names? Please elaborate.
My you manage to include all the homicidal Zionist talking points, don’t you?
Hamas did not kill one thousand civilians. Israel reports that about 800 civilian died on 10-7, but refuse to investigate how many were killed by friendly fire. 350 combatants, IOW legitimate military targets were also killed on 10-7. They probably deserved it as most were part of a terrorist organization known as the IDF.
“You are highlighting the fact that many leaders at NYU are Jews; this is a despicable act of labeling people based on their ethnicity.
My comment is merely pointing our your behavior and does not address the war in Gaza; it is simply a fact, so not “propaganda”.
More bullshit. Given NYU’s horrendous and violent repression of anti-Zionist protest, it’s safe to assume that the Jews on its board support Israel’s genocide.
None have said or done anything to prove otherwise, like condemning the brutalization of protesters or calling for a ceasefire. As usual with Zionists, your accusation of antisemitism is utter bullshit.
The casualty figures provide by the Gaza Health Ministry have proved highly accurate in the past. In the current crisis, they are no doubt an understatement as they do not include people missing and assumed to be buried in the rubble. Also due to Israels’ war criminal attacks on all of Gaza’s hospitals, there aren’t too many left to provide the death count. That’s what you’re defending, pig.
“Further – what would be the appropriate response to the slaughter of your people? What do you suggest that the Israelis do? Pack up and leave?”
Israel brought this on itself through its militarist aggression, its brutal settler colonialism and the mass torture and false imprisonment of Palestinians.
Israel’s 17 year long blockade of Gaza was and is an act of war.
In the 15 years prior to 10-7-23, Israel killed over 4,000 Palestinians in Gaza.
A Gazan child born in 2000 has already lived through at least six massacres (Operation Summer Rain [2006], Operation Hot Wind [2008], Operation Cast Lead [2008/09], Operation Returning Echo [2012], Operation Pillar of Defense [2012], and Operation Protective Edge [2014]), along with innumerable cross-border shootings, and the suppression of non-violent resistance like the Great March of Return.
Until the 1960s and the first wave of successful anti-colonial independence movements, Zionists were not ashamed to call their project colonialism. Established with the aim of creating a Jewish homeland in Palestine, their institutions from 1897 onward included the Jewish Colonization Association, the Society for the Colonization of the Land of Israel, the Palestine Jewish Colonization Association, and the Jewish Colonial Trust.
Look up Rebecca Weiner. Basically, she is a spook. Instructor, sworn officer of the NYPD, with an office in Tel Aviv. Max Blumenthal of "The Grayzone" has revealed who she is and her dangerous attitudes concerning free speech. As a sworn officer of the NYPD, she took an oath to defend the Constitution, yet she condemns free speech, saying that it needed to the quelled. There is a podcast on Judging Freedom, with Judge Napitolano, where Mr. Blumenthal was interviewed. In is he revealed who she is, what she does.
Max is doing an excellent job!
Since you understand the Constitution, explain to me how Rebecca Weiner fails to support her oath to protect the Constitution (and it's not an oath to "protect the Constitution," it's an oath to do her job consistent with the Constitution. Those mean different things).
As to "who she is, what she does," what does that even mean? What has she done, other than having "dangerous attitudes" (whatever that means)?
Also, she's not an "Instructor", she is the Deputy Commissioner of the Counterterrorism Bureau. When addressing the risk of terrorism, what sort of "attitudes" would you prefer? As you may recall, NYC has had some problems with terrorism in the past.
""this is a despicable act of labeling people based on their ethnicity.""
right then. it wasn't Palestinian muslims nor christians that took offense at the award winning nurses mild lament and then despicably fired her.
So, you claim that she was fired because people who weren't Muslims or Christians – some other religious group? – took offense at the nurses comments? But the person above said I was "race-baiting" by suggesting that.
I also noted that the same people fired another NYU employee for posting comments considered anti-Arab. But for some reason, no article about that appeared on this site. Probably just an oversight.
You were, and are, race-baiting. You are making an unsubstantiated claim, based on precisely none of the words "Gary" Bergoff Birns used in his comment, to try (and fail) to negate BB's point by way of (non-existent) racism against an associated religion of the ASI. Which BB did not do, but you want to pretend he did.
What do you think about Rebecca Weiner? Let me inform. She is an intelligence officer, a sworn officer of the NYPD. She also has an office in Tel Aviv. She is also an instructor at NYU. In other words, she is a spook. She has said speech needed to be quelled. Max Blumenthal has revealed her. By the way, your history of the election is a little skewed. President Carter was there during the elections and deemed the elections fair. The Israeli reaction? Dozens of members of Hamas' political arm were arrested, then the blockade that has lasted since then was established. The U.S. of Atrocities assisted. This has been discussed at length by Noam Chomsky.
You can't reason with a bigot.
I never said the election wasn't fair. It was the PA that challenged the results, which results in a violent clash between the PA and Hamas. This resulted in a coup, where Hamas illegally occupied Gaza, which, by law, was under the control of the PA. They have zero legal basis for ruling there and are not recognized as a legitimate government. There are no elections and no freedom under Hamas.
The blockade is not just by Israel but by Egypt as well, which has been fighting with the Muslim Brotherhood, of which Hamas is a member.
Sorry, but only a six year old excuses unacceptable behavior by saying “but everyone was doing it.”
I remember that from my own childhood. LOL
Actually, it's Israel that occupies Gaza illegally.
False. Israel left Gaza in 2005.
Israel and the Palestinian Authority signed accords saying that Gaza was under the control of the PA.
Hamas is not a legal government covered by any agreements, which is why it has no international recognition; even neighboring Egypt wants nothing to do with Hamas.
Hamas won local elections but got into a war with the PA. They expelled the legal government from Gaza and simply took over in a violent coup.
So, you have things completely backwards.
In fact, Israel let billions of dollars in aid flow into Gaza. Instead of creating a prosperous, peaceful society, Hamas put that money into tunnels, missiles, rockets, guns, RPGs, and other instruments of war.
Israel has no problem with Arab neighbors, such as Jordan and Egypt, that don't try to kill their people. Hamas demonstrated they have only one goal: the complete destruction of Israel and the murder of its people.
So, what would you suggest that Israel do?
I still says "duke"…
Calling the war on Gaza anything less than genocide is a lie and you’re a Nazi..
Free Free Palestine! 🇵🇸
Yes The Zionist oligarchs' assault on Americans' Constitutional Rights is disgusting.
So are you.
Stop the Zionist assault on free speech & assembly!
Nonsense. First of all, assuming a Jew – or even a person with a Jewish-sounding name – supports Zionism is racial profiling. You are just saying "Jew" a "nice way".
Second, the people on the list of NYU are people who support a major medical center, not "Zionist oligarchs".
Also, no constitutional rights were "assaulted". NYU is a private organization; the Constitution refers to actions and laws by the government. NYU is free to fire anyone they want. And certainly interjecting politics and inflammatory rhetoric into a non-political event is irresponsible and a violation of their policies.
However, you are free to avoid medical care at NYU, or any hospital that is supported by "Zionist oligarchs" or that employs people with Jewish-sounding names, because of your support for Hamas – a group that openly supports and practices actual genocide.
I'm assuming that the entire Board of Directors supports Zionism, based on its approval of brutality against anti-Zionist protesters.
"You are just saying "Jew" a "nice way".
Nope. I know and love several anti-Zionist Jews. When you assume you make an ass of you and me.
"Second, the people on the list of NYU are people who support a major medical center, not "Zionist oligarchs". I would wager their are many on that Board who meet the definition of Zionist oligarchs. The assault on Campus Free Speech Rights was initiated by Bill Ackman, a Zionist oligarch who made his fortune running a hedge funds. Zionist oligarchs even formed their own group to pressure universities to violently oppress tudent protesters.
"Also, no constitutional rights were "assaulted". NYU is a private organization; the Constitution refers to actions and laws by the government. NYU is free to fire anyone they want."
While that may be true in law, it's clear that NYU fired her to silence her. It assaulted her right to free speech in order to protect Isreal's reputation.
"And certainly interjecting politics and inflammatory rhetoric into a non-political event is irresponsible and a violation of their policies." Bullshit. Just plain bullshit. She was fired because the Zionist oligarchs running things will not tolerate criticism of Isreal or Zionism.
"However, you are free to avoid medical care at NYU"
You are free to shove that bigoted Jewish supremacy right up your ass.
""When you assume you make an ass of you and me""
no. he only made an ass of himself, not you
Thank you.
Despite the large number of easily disproven statements, I don't engage with people incapable of an adult conversation. Blocked. Best of luck.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
I’m not particularly fond of arguing with genocide supporters, but I do it anyway.
You’re defending the murder of over 20,000 innocent civilians. Surprise! You don’t get treated politely when you do that.
Mean words should be the least thing you Zionists should be concerned about, Y’all are on a southbound train going down.
Bibi and his pack of far right war criminals will be held accountable. Next step, outlaw Zionism., just like any other homicidal fascist movement.
"blocked" LOL that only means that he stuck his fingers in his ears and chanted "la la la I cannot hear you" with his eyes squeezed shut
Couldn’t take having his ego deflated. S/he was clearly a bit overconfident and thought we would have no real rebuttals. Thought s/he could drop in and call people antisemitic and we’d all cower. Obviously s/he is used to echo chambers.
Aleksandr the Great-ly Mistaken smacks of an "authoritarian sycophant" too content and defensive of the Uniparty Line.
One of that rapidly vanishing species, the Israel supporting Democrat aka a Zionist Ass.
Ha Ha ! That simpering idiot Aleksandr the Great-ly Pandering took my advice and Blocked me. Excellent; now I need not see his lockstep Authoritarian-phellating clown antics. What a maroon.
Good hunting, those who remain to bash your domes against his brick wall.
i think that he is just another agent like jake and don julio.
i think that their sole purpose is to keep you replying to them constantly just to wear you down.
here is my credo = say what you believe and if it is valid then you don't need to defend it repeatedly.
see what i'm saying?
I do.
BTW, Jake’s not capable of wearing me down.
Not with his s**t punctuation, that's for sure.
Polls in Israel indicate that 90% approve of the "war", with 68% indicating there should be more killing by the IDF. Amos Goldberg, professor of the Holocaust and Holocaust Remembrance at Hebrew University, has called Israel's actions in Gaza a genocide. So has Raz Segal, Israeli historian. The list goes on: Gideon Levy, Illi Pepe', Miko Peled (former IDF special forces soldier in the IDF and son of an Israeli general). So, sit down and shut up!
Telling someone to "shut up" is rude. I don't engage with people incapable of an adult conversation.
Zionism isn't a race, it's a belief system held by those who support Israel in spite of their ongoing atrocities against humanity in Gaza and personal liberties being attacked through freedom of speech and even 'thought crimes' if those thoughts they are against are manifested in speech. The day is coming and it doesn't look too good for Israel and their current policy of ethnic cleansing and instituting the 'greater Israel' which will take parts of their neighbors' countries. The rest of the world is waking up to the Zionist agenda.
Zionism is not a race, true. But that which is not a "race" can still be racist.
True. There’s one race, the human race, but other’s think they’re better by birth, not by virtue.
Fuck off.
Your Hasbara stopped working about 5,000 dead Palestinian kids ago. I hope you are writing for free, because if Israel is paying you for this crap, they are getting royally ripped off.
"Hasbara" is a way of saying you have nothing – no facts or information – to refute my points. Sad.
Plenty of facts; unlike Biden's babies these ones are real https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXO5M2ph5eY
And how is it that you managed to kill more kids than 7 months than Putin has in 2 years in Ukraine? https://ukraine.un.org/en/270546-remarks-denise-brown-head-un-ukraine-commemoration-international-day-innocent-children#:~:text=The%20truth%20is%20shocking%2C%20and,has%20been%20able%20to%20verify.
Or the US did in the first 8 YEARS in Iraq (which is a lot bigger than Gaza) https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/cross-check/where-is-outcry-over-children-killed-by-u-s-led-forces/
But I'll give you a hint; try your Hasbara out with the folks at CNN and FOX instead. Their audience is mostly moronic boomers with loads of cash, so you'll easily convince them and swell the lobby coffers nicely for your effort!
In your defense, Aleksandr, I don't think you're onna 'em Hasbro trolls.
If they do exist, I am reasonably sure the IDF and/or ASI has the A.I. or funds to generate actual non-s**t arguments in their defense; or at least pay you to keep your white-bread, grade-school rebuttals from ucking-fup their efforts.
Alexander, let's just look at history and see how this all began: Remember the emigration, fleeing, or expulsion of 750,000 Arab Palestinians during the 1948 Arab-Israeli War? That was the first ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in Mandatory Palestine during the 1948 Palestine war through their violent displacement and dispossession of land, property, and belongings, along with the destruction of their society, and the suppression of their culture, identity, political rights, and national aspirations. From Wikipedia
Yes, after wars, there are usually large changes in population. After WWII, 13 million Germans were refugees; 10 million Hindus came to India from Bangladesh. Wars are bad, which is why the Arabs should have accepted (or at least negotiated) the UN Partition deal in 1947. But they wanted it all, and chose to gamble on war.
However, when you lose a war, you don't get to decide what happens.
Historically, refugees from wars move and resettle. The difference here is that they invented a new type of hereditary refugee, where the children, grandchildren, and great-great-grandchildren of the original refugees are still considered refugees. They even considered people refugees (such as Yasser Arafat) who were from other countries (he was born in Egypt to an Egyptian family).
That is absurd.
"The difference here is that they invented a new type of hereditary refugee, where the children, grandchildren, and great-great-grandchildren of the original refugees are still considered refugees."
Ha. That's truly funny, in the sickest possible way.
False analogy. A country can decide to define its people anyway they want, just as your country does. Israel is no different than any other country.
However, the UN is defining which people are entitled to live in a country – only because they claim to have some connection to the original Arabs who lived in Mandatory Palestine prior to 1947 – 77 years ago. And this is the only case where this type of status is conferred. German refugees from WWII, or refugees from India and Bangladesh did not have this status. And I can't go back to the country where my great-grandfather came from, and demand that I be a citizen or that I own half of the country. That's absurd.
But let's start with your own country. By the UN logic, you should return California, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, Kansas, Wyoming, and Utah (and any wealth extracted from the land – including oil and gold) – to Mexico. Also, you should return most of the Eastern United States to the American Indian tribes that lived there, including Manhattan. Alaska belongs to Russia, or to the Native people.
So – when are you planning to do this? Have you started packing?
Historical bullshit arguments from a bull-shitter.
Heap it onto your flower garden. But don't pay money for it; that of unlimited supply has no monetary value.
Has nothing to do with Jews, but does have to do with Israel.
So, explain why the person attached the link to NYU board members, and said, "Look at this." Was it highlighting the many Irish or Chinese members? Maybe I misunderstood.
If none of the board members were Israeli, how does this have to do with Israel? Explain.
You should take up fishing instead of commenting, Aleksandr. Then instead of constant race-baiting you could focus your talent on worms.
OK, so you can't answer my question. Thanks for admitting that.
As for "constant race-baiting," how is that possible, when I haven't mentioned race?
Question wasn't directed at me, nor is it worthy of attention. And YOU go and mention the Oyresh & Chinese and claim you AREN'T race-baiting ?
FFS. I hope Ringling Brothers / Barnum & Bailey have good retirement packages because I don't think any other employer would have use of a verbose gat-damn'd clown like you.
Blocked.
Take a hike and stop making demands.
OK, so you can't answer the question. I didn't think so.
Oh you didn't?
Mr. Birns made NO statement in his comment that is anything like what you allege.
I don't know if you're new here, Aleksandr, but this isn't Reddit and lying WILL get called out. Just so you know.
So, you are calling me a liar without proof? That is tolerated? Or is your complaint really about telling the truth, going against the mob?
So, tell me – if I'm "lying" – what was the point of posting a link to the board, and saying "Check out this list and you'll understand the phone calls behind this act of political repression."
"proof" applies only in Mathematics.
"Evidence", on the other hand, is your DIRECT ASSERTION that good commenter Bergoff "this suit" BIRNS "better" was "open(ly)"antisemitic.
Counter to that -proving you lied- is the fact that nothing, including the link, in BB's comment makes any mention of religion, race, or negative statement.
Your IMPLICATION of something you implied from a certain, dare I say biased and monster-hunting perspective, you hold, is not evidence. It is assertion and, given plain reading of BB's comment, is unsupported outside of your feelings.
Now, it is possible you're an idiot and read in something you WANTED the commenter to say that you could use to dismiss his argument.
Or you KNEW it didn't say what you imagine it did – and you're lying.
So – idiot or liar, which of the two are you, Aleksandr ? I'm not voting 'idiot", so…
So, first I'm a liar; now I'm an idiot.
I block people who can't have an adult conversation. So, I've blocked you. No need to respond.
But you've failed to make your point. Listing Jews has a long tradition among anti-Semites that you ignore.
I can't prove what his intentions were, but look at the names he referred to:
Grossman…Abramson…Brotman…
Golden…Is there a pattern here?
He certainly could be focusing on the Jewish identity of board members; that is certainly within the range of possibilities.
So, suggesting a possible motivation is not a "lie"; it is suggesting a possible interpretation. His reason for posting the link as an explanation for the firing of a woman who criticized Israel is open to interpretation.
But rather than insulting me, why don't you ask him why he posted the link?
I care about as much about cries of "Anti-Semitism" in 2024 as I do the wolf who cried boy. But the billionaires who own our government care a lot so it's important to stay anonymous.
Yes, I'm sure you do not care about anti-Semitism.
So, who exactly are these billionaires who "own our government"?
Worshipers of Mammon, pure and unadulterated. Meanwhile our Jewish brothers and sisters stand strong for freedom and against genocide http://google.com/amp/s/www.newarab.com/news/one-third-american-jews-view-israels-war-gaza-genocide%3famp
Jeez, and I thought punishing medical workers for exercising their conscience went out of fashion when COVID did.
You missed the point.
Please explain.
The nurse wasn't fired for "exercising her conscience". She was fired for introducing her political beliefs on a highly charged issue into a ceremony, after she had been told not to so. It was a deliberate disruptive action in a work environment she had been told not to engage in.
For example, if the nurse had talked about emotionally charged racial issues, or trans issues, or abortion issues, or immigration issues – after being warned not to – you might support her dismissal (if she had been racist, anti-trans, anti-abortion, or anti-immigrant). But because the issue is the Israeli-Hamas war in Gaza, you may not perceive this as being worthy of being fired.
Another NYU employee was recently fired for his comments about the war on social media that were considered anti-Arab.
Like most conflicts, the war in Gaza has created enormous pain on both sides; provoking either side is disruptive in a diverse city like New York that has Jews (900,000) and Muslims (750,000).
Common sense says that it is best of avoid fighting issues with fellow employees in the workplace. Work is about work, not your personal agenda.
If you believe that your employer and coworkers are participating in the worst possible type of mass murder – genocide – then how can you be trusted to work with them?
She absolutely exercised her conscience. She sees the evidence of ASI genocide against the Gazinese and, IN THE FACE OF THREATS TO HER JOB and to no personal benefit or gain, she decided her proper moral action was to speak out.
I'm sorry you feel people should "shut up and follow orders" or "shut up & sing" (if you reviled The Dixie Chicks that time) but to a good many of us, being on the right side of history and being HUMAN is more important than YOUR comfort at work, Aleksandr, and YOUR ability to ignore the world around you and wallow in myopic self-interest.
I'm sorry you side with censorship and the "follow, or else" ethos of authoritarianism. For me, no m.f.-ing thanks.
If you feel she was compelled to act as she did for moral reasons, then you must accept the consequences, because they were predictable, based on the warnings he received, and the common practice in US institutions. Instead, you blame everyone else.
The basis for civil disobedience is accepting consequences. This is what makes it a moral decision. This isn't my idea, but that of Gandhi and MLK Jr.
And while you talk about conscience and free speech, your insults are just an attempt to shut me up; you should no respect for any opinions that are not your own. Rather than engage in an adult conversation, you quickly resort to personal attacks.
If there was any validity to your views, you could defend them. I can, because I know history and facts. I see no evidence that you know either.
Wow, you're either gaslighting or projecting. Or both.
I reiterate – you're a clown.
And this is not the Ad Hominem Fallacy. I am not saying your flimsy arguments are wrong BECAUSE you're a complete clown. I am saying your flimsy arguments are wrong AND you're a complete clown.
You're still an authoritarian fanboi for siding with Those In Charge while whining that people with opinions might hurt others feeeeeelings. Good. In the face of moral travesties like the ASI genocide of Gazinians, it is the DUTY of moral, ethical, empathetic humans to stand up and SHOUT in the faces of the ignorant and ignoring – not let Gov't and Big Business (or do I repeat myself?) dictate "acceptable thought".
I'm ashamed FOR you that you can't figure this out. And your response to a literal care-giver's expression of caring boils down to "good, f**k her for breaking The Rules". You cite MLK and Gandhi (and I'll include Rosa Parks) as if you WOULDN'T be right there, ignoring their message, demanding "legal justice".
Good Hells I'd love if you Blocked me, too. The more inane and haphazard the ideology of a commenter, the more I have to effing type. And I'm in novella territory with you now, Aleksandr the Great-ly Mistaken.
Clearly, sympathy with "mothers" is the fundamental deal-breaker here. I have no idea to whom or what that noun in the headline refers.
Nonsense. Calling a war against a terrorist group known for lying "genocide" is false, inappropriate, and inflammatory.
If she wanted to support Hamas and/or the people of Gaza, there were better venues.
She should have anticipated being fired.
It is genocide and Israel is the biggest terrorist in the middle east, you filthy, lying Zionist pig.
Defending genocide is vile. If there’s s Hell, I hope you rot in it.
“American” Zionists calling for the squelching of free speech in the US order to protect Israel’s image are foul traitors.
Well….maybe later, after you get up from your peaceful nap, you can tell Alexander how you really feel.
Zionist asswipe alert!
His "there are better venues" reminds me of the Free Speech Zones set up in Vancouver during our 2010 Winter Olympics, where protesters were "allowed" to congregate (out of sight if course). To which we asked, of 'free speech zones', "Isn't that our whole f**king country ?"
Aleksandr just wants people to shut up & obey. He'll claim to support the First Amendment and Constitution – but only when it benefits him or aligns with his Chosen Truths ™. He'll never say where or when the "right place" for these discussions is. Presumably "quietly, at home, where no one else can hear".
It amounts to “if you try to stop us, you’ll be treated the way we treat Palestinians.”
The attack on protest tactics is clearly a ploy, a stand in for a more direct attack the protesters message. It allows the Zionist to take the offensive and push the topic of 15,000 dead kids to the sidelines.
Lies, Land theft and Genocide! The 3 pillars of Zionism!
Is speech free if no one hears it? };-)>
Are you blind to the images from Gaza?
Not blind, just intentionally ignorant.
You are sooooooo wrong. The rest of the world sees it as a genocide and ethnic cleansing for real estate profits in the future. It's all about those dollars and shekels, isn't it?
So, it's about money? Is that what you think?
Most wars are at least partly about money. Any reason to think this one is an exception?
So, if the war between Israel and Hamas is looked at in terms of financial issues, then the question is, which side affects the US most financially?
Israel is a major non-NATO ally; they provide military, computer, and medical technology to the US. They have a $564 billion economy and provide the US with products and services, such as generic pharmaceuticals, computer software, military equipment, training, etc.
On the other hand, Hamas contributes nothing to the US economy; they attack a US ally, murder US citizens, and currently hold Americans as hostages. Whatever funds they have received – from US and EU taxpayers – they put into rockets, missiles, tunnels, grenades, RPGs, guns, ammunition, and other military gear – to attack a US ally. They align with a country – Iran – that chants "Death to America" and which encourages the Houthis to attack ships in support of Hamas, raising the cost of shipping and goods.
So, in strictly financial terms, why would I support Hamas, a group that seeks to destroy a major US ally, causing them physical and financial harm, will hurting US financial interests? Plus, Hamas is part of the Muslim Brotherhood, which seeks to overthrow US-friendly governments, such as Egypt.
For that matter, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood are part of a larger, 1,400-year conflict – between the Western World and the Muslim/Arab world – so, why would I support groups – such as Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and Hamas – that openly seek to destroy Western civilization?
So, if wars are about money, doesn't it make sense to support the side that benefits my financial self-interest, as opposed to the side that hurts my financial self-interest?
So do my prayers for the children in Gaza make me some kind of danger? I think the war crimes by Israeli forces speak for themselves. They cannot make up excuses for them. Anyone who supports these heinous crimes against humanity is guilty too.
Do you support the US government? Are you guilty? Do you pay our taxes?
How about the US crimes against Germans and Japanese civilians in WWII, with the mass bombing of cities like Berlin, Tokyo, Dresden, Hamburg? Hiroshima? How about in Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq? And how about women and children being killed by our "ally" Saudi Arabia in Yemen – more than 300,000? No problem, I guess, because – what?
Or the 200,000 who have died in Ukraine? No big deal? Or the 600,00o who have died in Syria? Not an issue. Only Israel is a problem, apparently. Not your country, not your allies. Nothing to see there.
Whataboutism, writ wordy.
Do you have a Logical Fallacy BINGO card, and what are the last two squares you HAVEN'T filled in so that we can set you up for a "25 fallacies in 25 comments" Perfect Game ?
Yes. A danger to the oligarchs who have purchased this once great nation.
Clearly a housecleaning is needed, but it is not empathetic nurses who need to be fired.
We must rid ourselves of AIPAC and those complicit in genocide, wherever they cower among us.
How exactly would we "rid ourselves" of AIPAC? And why? And how will be "rid ourselves" of those who "cower among us"? Please provide some details how we will "rid ourselves" of those you deem complicit in "genocide"?
Which do you lack more: empathy, understanding, or imagination?
Seems a three-way tie, from the read of your whining rebuttals, projections, and race-baiting.
I see – so, you prefer insults to actually answering questions? That's a sign of a failed argument.
I guess when that's all you have, that's all you have.
Have a nice day.
I prefer reds, Malbecs in particular.
If you're going to send this much whine my way, please make it those, instead.
why are people surprised? look what theyve been doing to trump for the last 6+ years and even cases like scott ritter or tara reade.
the Trump made his own bed simply by opening his lying mouth and the corruption of his organization which has been going on for decades.
now he is beginning to pay the price and i wholeheartedly support that.
No one caused these problems but Trump himself.
Trump had his chance and is now being exposed as a big phony like all the others in Wash. The uni-party is supreme on matters of life and death and eroding our freedoms as they further trash the Constitution.
Tara Reade? You mean the woman who recently defected to Russia?
As for Trump – please. His troubles are entirely caused by his own behavior.
No, you're thinking of the former Maxim covergirl & star of "American Pie".
The nation is being governed by boatloads of fools. Democracy on the brink.
Well paid fools. The donor class owns them. Both sides of the isle. The UNPARTY. Stray just a little bit and the party is over.
But hey, here in America, we are all freely entitled to our opinions, right? Right? /s
Apparently not: https://consortiumnews.com/2024/05/31/the-homeland-security-campus/
The issue isn't her opinion (which is wrong, by the way) it is interjecting it into a non-political ceremony, after she had been told not to.
The Israeli-Hamas war is a battle between two groups that hate each other. Picking at a sensitive issue at that time was inflammatory and wrong, especially in NYC, which has a very diverse population.
Her job involves care of infants and mothers. You Zionists think you have the right to destroy free speech in America. You’re wrong and you should face severe consequences for your assault on freedom.
End Zionist power in America!
She should stick to her job. It is not taking sides in military conflicts. NYU had the right to fire her, and I believe they made the right decision.
I can only speak for myself but I have no interest in "destroying" free speech in America or anywhere. What an absurd comment.
And I should face "severe consequences" for expression my opinion? Despite the sheer hypocrisy of your comment (in a debate of free speech), that sounds like a threat. Tell me – what "severe consequences" should I face, based on what, and by whom?
It’s not a “military conflict” in any normal way. It’s a genocidal slaughter.
” I have no interest in “destroying” free speech in America” When it comes to Israel, Zionists like yourself have shown few limits to what they qwill support to supress opponents of Israel.
“that sounds like a threat” And you sound like a wimp.
Supporting genocide should result in severe consequences, as should suppression of protests against genocide. Genocide is s crime against humanity and you are an immoral and monstrous supporter of Israel’s massive war crimes. You have no compunction about it and spread vile propaganda in order to protect Israel’s reputation by silencing its opponents.
You and yours are on a southbound train going down.
“A senior Israeli banking executive said that the current war on Gaza is driving investors to withdraw their funds from the Israeli economy, Yedioth Ahronoth reported on 3 June.
“The executive said the amount is likely in the billions of shekels and noted a significant decline in the purchase of Israeli bonds, a phenomenon he has not seen in many years.
“We are becoming economically unwelcome, almost pariahs in some areas. Many companies are now at risk, as international entities impose an informal boycott on Israeli companies and factories, avoiding investments here,” he said.
The world sees the true sadistic face of Zionism.
The breakout by the young Hamas fighters was instrumental in the manner that the Nat Turner rebellion was in its time. The difference is the issue of slavery was very out in the open, whereas I would venture that most Americans did not know the history of Israel with respect to Gaza, of Zionism. I would venture that a few do now.
False analogy. The attack on Israel was not like Nat Turner in any way.
The people of Gaza are not slaves. Israel left Gaza in 2005, and Gazans were free to develop their own society. Instead of peace and prosperity, they chose to attack Israel. How's that working out for them? Not so good?
The history is very simple. People who try to destroy Israel get war. People who don't get peace.
". . .not taking sides in military conflicts" You say? How about Wash. doing that and stop contributing to the ongoing genocide? Bet you aren't against that, are you?
Of course not. The United States needs to back US allies, or it will have none.
War is a nasty business. But why not tell you buddies in Hamas to surrender, give up their weapons, and return all the hostages? That would end the war today.
Israel isn’t an ally of the American people, maybe they are with the swine in Wash. But, after the USS Liberty and the Pollard spy thingy,just two examples with allies like that sound more like enemies. Without AIPAC and corruption in Wash., Israel would cease to exist. Get a clue, you’re ongoing rhetoric is stale and full of lies and deceit, like Zionism and Israel are.
she is Palestinian and she lamented the plight of other Palestinian mothers and babies. that was hardly "taking sides in a military conflict."
False. Repeatedly labeling unverified casualties of a war as "genocide" is inflammatory, especially as she had previously been warned about such behavior. In any job, if you can't keep your personal opinions to yourself, and create a conflict-filled work environment (and ignore management warnings) you will lose your job.
And despite all the talk here about "punishing" Jews, NYU recently fired another worker for posting anti-Arab comments; but I don't see anyone making threats against Muslims due to this firing.
Israel is killing Christians too. Blowing up churches. Laying siege on the Armenian Christian Church in Jerusalem. It has been there since the 4th Century.
Huh? No one is "laying siege" to the Armenian Church in Jerusalem. The head of the Armenian Church signed a deal. It's being contested in the courts now. They started some construction on a parking lot, which is now halted.
Meanwhile, are you concerned about the complete ban on Christianity in Saudi Arabia, or the murder of Christians in Nigeria, Pakistan, and Egypt? I doubt it.
And how about the complete erasure of Jewish culture and history from Gaza, a center of Jewish education for hundreds of years?
There is no "battle". The military arm of Hamas does not have a navy, army, air force, a security structure that is interjected all over the world. According to our Constitution, we all have the right to speak our mind.
Wow. Wrong and wrong.
1. Hamas is a group openly dedicated to violence with at least 30,000 armed fighters. Some say 40,000. They have extensive stockpiles of rockets, missiles, assault rifles, ammunition, RPGs, bombs, IEDs, and other military equipment. There have been many pitched battles in Gaza between Israeli and Hamas fighters.
Hamas is also part of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is a transnational organization, and Hamas has ties with other groups, such as the Iranian military, Hezbollah in Lebanon, and the Houthis (who are attacking ships with drones and missiles).
2. The Constitution refers to restrictions on the government. The Constitution does not force a private organization, such as NYU, to accept actions of an employee that it finds disruptive to the work environment. If you go out of your way to publicly state that your employer and your co-workers are complicit in the worst form of mass murder – genocide – how can you be expected to work together? That's not possible. She had been warned after confronting co-workers in the past but ignored these warnings.
So, no a "Constitutional issue".
Genocide is more than 'political.' The Zionists are showing their true colors more and more every day. Not good for the ADL, JDL, AIPAC and other Zionist organizations. The old rhetoric is dead and rotten now.
Well that explains why people "shut up" during the holocaust because that was JUST a battle between two groups.
"…(which is wrong, by the way)…"
How six simple words can prove a person has their head so far up the a$$ the rest of us can't tell if you're coughing or farting.
I'd love to engage you on thoughtful arguments, but you don't make any. You complain that people have moral standards and consciences and figurative "spines" that you lack so harshly you couldn't even imagine wanting such for yourself.
I'm trashing you because you are presenting as a garbage human being.
Find empathy and sympathy for others and look past your own glaring self-interests and insecurities, and the rest of us here can TALK with you…instead of laughing behind our hands each time you flatulate another post like you're on the right side of this.
Call the genocidal bastards at NYU Langone Health!
646-929-7870
So, you think that a major medical center – which saves thousands of people's lives and trains health care providers – are "genocidal bastards." You just proved why firing her was the right thing to do. Thanks.
They are supporting the genocide by firing the nurse for mentioning it.
You are obviously a genocide supporter as well.
Which is urinating on the Constitution. When speech is attacked, we are all in trouble. Not just the nurse.
Nonsense. The Constitution does not force private businesses to tolerate a worker they perceive as disruptive.
Not the medical center, just those in charge who are against freedom of speech. However, they do have the right to fire her, and she has every right to sue them for violating her civil rights which is evident to all.
In their great Wisdom the American Founding Fathers bequeathed to us the US Bill of Rights which guarantees each citizen "Freedom of Speech". We cannot allow a sinister Zionist element that appears openly hostile to our precious American freedoms to drag us away from the spirit of 1776 back into a morass of tyranny and repression.
If this isn't a case for the ACLU I don't know what is. If they don't take up this case they might as well close up shop.
The Founding Fathers were concerned about the abuse of government power, and the need for people to express dissent against their government. That is basis for self-government. They said the government does not have the right to block people's speech.
The Constitution does not force private organizations like NYU to employ a worker they perceive as disruptive.
You can blame "sinister Zionists" (wink wink) but the same organization fired another worker for posting ant-Arab comments. Strange, you haven't accused "sinister Islamists" for this. I guess you just haven't gotten around to it.
When “Islamists” start calling for protest rallies on college campuses to be crushed by Police, I promise you I will get around to it.
They do all the time – in Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan. In Syria, any opposition results in murder; there have been 600,000 people dead in Syria (so far).
Of course, in Iran, when they aren't using metal batons to beat women for not wearing a headscarf properly, they are busy oppressing the Baháʼí sect of Islam. Not on college campuses, though, because members of the Baháʼí faith are not allowed into college. Oddly enough, the world headquarters of the Baháʼí faith are located in Israel. Go figure.
What has any of that got to do with squelching Freedom of Speech in the United States?
I wonder if an African-American nurse would have been fired for bringing up Darfur? That's a hard one.
Actually, pretty easy since African-Americans aren't part of the Zionist faction. The answer would be no and would be defined as an 'apples to oranges' situation by the Zionists.
FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT NOW NO LONGER A RIGHT.
SCOTT RITTER'S PASSPORT SEIZED BY STATE DEPT.
https://www.sott.net/article/491955-US-seizes-Scott-Ritters-passport
"I was boarding the flight. Three [police] officers pulled me aside. They took my passport. When asked why, they said 'orders of the State Department'. They had no further information for me, They pulled my bags off the plane, then escorted me out of the airport. They kept my passport."
Hopefully, Jabr will sue and her job back.
Consortium News: https://consortiumnews.com/2024/05/31/the-homeland-security-campus/
Two words for Joe Biden and his cockeyed administration ….. Unfucking believable.
Mr President you deserve to lose your office. Never have I seen such dishonorable behavior in this country – and it's spreading. Incidents like these are a direct result of the death grip held by AIPAC on the US political system.