During an interview on the FOX Business Network’s Mornings with Maria, former Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich said the intelligence community was responsible for leaking information that Trump’s national security advisor, Mike Flynn, had secretly discussed sanctions with Russian officials before the inauguration and argued their goal was to spoil the relationship between the U.S. and Russia.
“What’s at the core of this is an effort by some in the intelligence community to upend any positive relationship between the U.S. and Russia,” Kucinich said.
And in his opinion, there is a big money motive behind it.
“And I tell you there’s a marching band and Chowder Society out there. There’s gold in them there hills,” he said. “There are people trying to separate the U.S. and Russia so that this military industrial intel axis can cash in.”
Kucinich added the intelligence community could start a war to succeed.
“There’s a game going on inside the intelligence community where there are those who want to separate the U.S. from Russia in a way that would reignite the Cold War,” he said.
God, I miss that plucky little bastard. He and Ron Paul should host an antiwar talk-show. They don’t make Congressmen like that anymore. Except, maybe, Tulsi Gabbard, of coarse. Lets hope she walks the line like Denny and Ron. Washington can do bad shit to good people. Just look at what happened to Rand.
In saying that you miss that plucky little bastard you’re revealing that you too had some faith in Trump not just bullshitting for votes when he talked about improving relations with Russia.
I mean, that’s really what he was talking about isn’t it comrade. Thanks for the opportunity to find a little bit more about what makes you tick.
Grasping at hope comrade, as Trump and his admin self-destructs before the end of his first month?
It’s Trump’s biggest ruse and his biggest mistake comrade. And it’s the piece of Trump work the Dems are going to make sure doesn’t get away from them because without it they would be much harder pressed on deconstructing Trump piece by slimy piece. This is already grabbing the imaginations of the R’s in congress!
So here’s what you’re saying, Don:
1) Trump was smart enough to bullshit antiwar voters into believing he wanted peace with Russia, but too dumb to realize that after winning there would be consequences for the bullshitting;
2) It was only a tiny handful of antiwar voters he was bullshitting, and most Americans DON’T want better relations with Russia, but somehow displeasing that tiny handful and pleasing the majority represents some kind of conundrum for him.
Would it kill you to spend even a few minutes thinking through the logic — or lack of logic — of your claims before flooding every comment thread on the site with those claims repetitively for days on end?
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Thanks for that clarification.
I hope I clarified my position for you. No reply is necessary though. We’ll see how things go from here on in.
Not to suggest that your criticism isn’t welcomed if you think it’s due.
Alost 70 percent of Americans are anti-war, or not as pro war as the 15 percent who are think. There was no need to bullshit anybody but the pure woolers.
Dennis Kucinich is a genuine progressive. Ron Paul is a social Darwinist. Any common ground is purely incidental.
They’re both principled anti-imperialists who aren’t afraid to take on the scum in their own parties. That’s good enough for me. I’ll take solidarity over orthodox tribalism any day.
False dilemma. Nor would I describe Ron Paul as principled.
“if my claims are logical”
Well, that’s just it. My points #1 and #2 each consist of two, seemingly mutually exclusive claims.
Two pairs of claims, of which one claim from each pair seemingly must be false, but you seem to be making all four claims as if all four claims could be true.
I’m good with both your points in #1. And I think I’m good with all the points you made in #2. However, your #2 may have meant something a little different from how I read it. The last phrase in #2 gives me some difficulty so it’s either your convoluted writing or my inability to understand you. I’ll take the blam for now. You can restate it. Show me where the falsity lies?
It’s quite interesting to me that you would say what you said about one claim in #1 must be false. So let me clear up my position in that one at least.
“) Trump was smart enough to bullshit antiwar voters into believing he wanted peace with Russia,…..”
Exactly! And he did that to win their votes and nothing more.
“but too dumb to realize that after winning there would be consequences for the bullshitting;”
And once again exactly. Simply because real antiwar people took him at his word and now it is crystal clear to me that he wasn’t intending that at all. Therefore putting himself in a position in which he has to extricate himself. Hence dumb. So dumb that in fact his detractors could very well bring him down over the pretense he promoted. So even though some or even many of them know that Trump was not serious, they are going to continue to make the assumption that he was.
Trump could end it all by simply saying that he didn’t mean it. But can he do that? Not only has he the few antiwar people to worry about but now he has promoted it to be a big part of who he is with a lot more people. And the Dems are fu–ing with him on it but it’s only of his own making.
Hope that works for you because it’s sincere and it’s thought through completely
So Flynn is out but… where did he go? Down, Up… or Behind? Did his political reach decrease? Increase?
Trump has at least three powerful groups of enemies. There are the ‘hard’ Democrats – they owe him a BIG one. There are the ‘old’ Republicans – they owe him one as well, he has messed with their ‘powerbase’ – although they are doing their darndest to isolate him with a screen of ‘friends’. And then there are the group that overrides both – those who want to see the USA on top of the world, with themselves on top of the USA. The last group is the most dangerous for control real power in the USA – they brook no threat from anyone, anywhere.